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And welcome to FOX News Sunday panel plots with Kimberly -- Juan Williams Jennifer -- and Mara -- a lot to talk about this morning that we didn't get to.
During the show I can when we finish up -- voting rights you said that you were dismayed.
At Juan Williams should not.
-- not just made I can never be different.
I don't know a bit -- but it this close -- I I I think that in this case there's great reason to feel optimism and you know that everyone ought to feel that this is -- an expression of racial progress and that it has been -- you all that bad you know and and I know that everyone says well you know.
The wary of the threat here is we will go back to the battle -- but.
But the evidence out there at the moment suggests that we have made enormous and we're we're not even talking -- the same things that that caused that the court to put you know keep these restrictions in place.
Literacy tests and all of these things that were clearly designed to keep African Americans -- We RB on so there should be -- Lorena Michelle why is that about it -- and -- That all over and done workers that -- -- out of the political -- have an intense interest in gerrymandering networks in different ways to help from parties and some parties.
We both parties -- -- -- cutting lines.
Not necessarily with a racial -- and so much as a political.
Actually that -- handwritten album arguably was made worse under the voting rights act -- health Armstrong is that.
Civil rights scholar and that advocate.
Had -- peace in -- paper on that.
Because of the requirements they created a lot of them very heavily.
Districts and so what that did was it crowded certain.
Minority candidates into those districts around telling them compete if you will and mixed districts and so.
We're gonna see I think a better for competition and a great exposure for some of these can.
But you know one of the good that -- creation of this majority minority districts are often done by a collusion of Republicans and cooperation between Republicans and black legislators they wanted to chance to have more African American members of congress those numbers might go down.
But the other question is.
How long can redistricting hold back the tide of demographic change.
You know I don't know I don't know how often how much more the Republican Party in these states -- sliced and -- the electorate to preserve their districts when you have the fastest growing.
Hispanic electorates are in most other states.
And in general I think 500000 new Hispanic voters become eligible every year so there's only so much you can do with redistricting.
Well on the point of Hispanic voters -- the jump only want -- Fisher or would you rather talk immigration and what immigration bill might mean for Hispanics in future of the public Republican -- well I -- which way to.
Immigrant critics -- one -- that immigration immigration is the same -- I want to -- voting rights and even gay marriage the Republican party's base.
In the House of Representatives in this case is not.
In sync with the majority opinion in the country and that's a problem for the national Republican Party now that it's an interesting -- I.
You do trade got -- you know it wasn't in in this interview but it another one -- -- -- -- the idea of what about this idea that senator Schumer talked about that the Republican Party will actually -- or at least for generation will be a minority party.
Because it can't get the Hispanic vote because it is a audience.
The -- view what immigration should be he said nobody's under any illusion Republican Party if you pass comprehensive immigration reform.
Hispanics across the country we'll go where -- -- all my life.
But again Lindsey Graham suggested.
If people don't think you like them or care about their issues they're not likely to listen to what you have said.
I meet the -- right -- this is with -- -- issue on you can't even get them to listen to your opinion on a variety of issues if as.
I think Marco Rubio once -- if you're threatening to -- their grandmother.
So I think it's something enough and fair enough who can blame these people.
So I think they must do that getting back to -- point.
The base of the Republican part you define.
If you look at the Republican primary.
Audience if you well if you pull those people what do you accepted path to citizenship with these conditions very much like proposition eight.
Pretty good a majority -- -- a slightly drier so even -- -- the house.
-- -- -- Are in touch with their own party or their own -- part ultimately primary voters are big national elections senate elections.
Are -- -- despite the stuff and it's I think through their fortune through there.
A lot of people may be upset -- -- in the house with them Marco Rubio he's never been more popular the Republican Party.
Why do you think house Republicans are making a mistake by doing this bite size as opposed to comprehensive -- -- -- in the last bite.
The path to citizenship.
Well I think essentially it becomes it's not exactly the language I should be using but a poison pill.
Because it it's not that there's one amendment that's gonna kill everything.
Which is the way it was discussed in the senate recently with the corner amendment but.
What you're seeing here is that they do it in bite size pieces they will all be about border security or visas or -- -- the whatever.
But then the pathway to citizenship which is what the Democrats are demanding is not going to be the -- as part of any initial or bite sized deal that would be the final step.
So it would require then the Democrats to be trusting and it Democrats are not going to be trusting so essentially you're you're talking about if they do it.
Piece by piece is you're gonna kill opportunity.
For immigration reform in this kind of.
The signal that they're sending the message they're sending to Hispanic voters -- saying you know we wanna get all the security push to force the players.
We'll talk about citizenship legal status later.
No I mean one of the merits of having -- in -- militarization.
Of the border as part of the senate -- -- it really did flush out those who.
I have hidden behind that issue and those who simply don't want a path that any path to citizenship at any point.
And that was one -- useful aspects that.
Although I was there it.
-- how much money that supposedly -- Republicans are willing to spend on something that seems to immediately I had an exit one of the great tragedies that we.
With the Republicans in the house have an opportunity here they ought to be not just embracing a pathway to citizenship because it is the traditional principles of conservatism.
Shining city on the hill as expressed by ranking you want have people that opportunity come here legally and contribute to the United States.
But the other issue is that this focus on border security and spending money I mean.
They're sending everything down the viewers -- -- nuclear -- downed -- -- -- uneducated in the Rio Rio grand event OK you know.
But what that you ought to be doing in terms of managing the border is is a free market solution which is actually and guest worker program you manage the flow a few co workers these are some things -- basic.
Conservative principles and yet that has been.
This is their opportunity to really -- up do that better in the house improve aspects of the senate on that regard and they they're missing out as well they should be looking at.
Reform for making sure that people don't overstayed their visas remember it's not just about a war you can -- most people fly into the country they boats out of the country built tunnels under walls.
So while -- -- is dismayed with me on going right.
I am thrilled at her -- they wouldn't let me throw one last.
Point out -- senator Schumer said this morning that he believes that after careful consideration given time.
The house will pass the senate bill.
Why isn't it like to agree with senator Schumer I think he's very optimistic.
I think at the house will get something I think they can solve it piecemeal issue white.
Having -- rule in the house that sticks altogether puts out there.
The real question is can the two bodies get together and come up with something -- the pass both of them and I think the jury is really out.
It but it sounds like they're doing it piecemeal or pass these bills first get those in place get them working and then maybe sometime down the road to justice -- settled out of of citizenship to the president has said he's not assign an outline.
Democrats are gonna vote on anything that -- -- of them yeah -- to me that that central character here is speaker Boehner.
And whether or not speaker Boehner in the aftermath of the farm Bill -- he thought he had conservative support can wrangle his troops and say you know what this is for the best of the party.
And the best of the country.
And you know it doesn't look it looks to me like they -- under it immediately if he suspended the hamster Rolle and put the senate bill up for a vote house where -- equipment.
Perhaps I mean you have every Democrat they have the Republicans lead isn't that and what would happen to congressman Boehner well.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Hailing the passage of this and then saying very clearly.
The people who don't want this -- the past there any gear up and I'm -- you know aggressively to -- -- now.
That's a little warning to Republicans meeting if you guys -- -- -- will run against it and use it against you all the way until the next now I will not work as well as in twenty -- Buzz yes you know there are Democrats who actually would be fine at this time because they see has had a great political mileage and Republicans need to let.
Leave -- -- postscript to see you thanks for spending time and we'll see you again next Sunday for our panel plus -- for joining us.
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