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We're back live in Sanford Florida at the George -- trial and today the jury hearing about the deadly confrontation in sermons own words.
Right at the court recess we spoke with -- -- defense lawyer Mark O'Meara.
Nice to see -- You didn't -- -- didn't get a busy few days yeah it's good three weeks committed only five or six days of testimony.
About -- declined.
What's -- like -- You know he's very afraid.
He's been -- for a year.
He's getting a 120 pounds because of the stress 120 pounds now and people are trying to take his life -- -- -- from away for the rest is like that's very frightening position of being particularly when you think he did.
But we got what you had to do.
In terms of come into the court every -- that comes at the door is now locked up you know.
He's don't want bonds you're just the only one -- -- got messed up little bit it is back on bond and he's out series of ground to help us.
Yes more so much more so in the beginning when I first known case a lot of people thought I was -- the devil incarnate for daring to take on his racist war.
Course now we all know is not a racist and he's probably not a murder.
And the -- of the evidence and -- me of course is number.
-- so they have gone down they've kicked back up with the trial beginning.
He raised the issue of racism and we associate we look at it at the jury it is -- it is there are no African Americans and the -- And there's always some of the risk at the end if you win your case is that they do you people are going to take sides of people are going to see this as he.
Ray showed decision and -- on the offense.
Both suggestion is look at the panel that we get strong because the penalty kick it was actually over represented in the population for African Americans so nobody can really complain that almost double the number of African Americans in the panel that we have in the community.
And from -- the state was the first one to.
Kick out a black juror the -- up front.
I had to I'd be very well founded reasons to strike a couple of jurors -- -- -- that's -- inquiries and the judge that I was right.
Critics that the community -- if you and -- that's an interesting and that is this they elephant in the room.
Well you know they.
Enjoy keeps saying that they're willing to believe in the system as long as the jury was picked properly and I think that they weren't and is always a fair trial itself.
So those who have says they'll listen there's always there's a fair trial are gonna get a fair trial and they get a get a fair verdict now they're gonna have to be held to their -- -- Different clients are different to work with George certainly it's it's hit client who is very involved in this -- -- sit patiently assisted by and let his lawyers -- the work.
In the middle he is involved in the case he -- knows that we know much more about what we're doing he does but he knows the facts very well -- -- to help us with them.
-- a lot of the prosecution team.
We've had a lot of to a lot of difficulties with discovery with the prosecution team I've never filed a motion for sanctions ever in thirty years of practice -- -- five but actually six -- them in this case we're successful on it and not really this day I think that judges made the decision this case is gonna trial in June 10.
And no matter what.
Nothing's gonna delay that and even if we had discovery problem.
-- service in in Florida it's very different from a patient actually a deposition that wears custom good civil cases what to feel like that.
-- I do this is obvious to me the idea of knowing what you -- before you going to trial is nice in federal court a decent federal work.
And we have very limited discovery in federal law.
Here we have a great deal discovered my only frustration is that we have -- -- -- records law and Florida.
We have open discovery and depositions and we have cameras in the courtroom.
-- -- I know that I'm talking about your profession a little bit a dual profession it can be a problem when we had this much exposure to case like this was a highlight say if you.
Best I ever in the defense I I enjoy cross examination.
I think that the last question was probably good question and -- which show was it was to -- to Serena what's said.
Did you believed George Zimmermann when he said he wished someone videotaped the fight that was your question he said yes.
Said he thinks -- I was telling the -- Do you expect that answer.
It's the right into an addiction you ready deposed as expected it well I had to post them I thought that he was a little bits -- -- to his answers to be so far today I don't think it was giving up very much but I think that he gave up the right answer them.
And the correct answer what to explain the background on this in the that the -- videotape -- the viewers made out of -- -- along what was the what what was the question meant for.
-- happened it was it was a question.
Chris every note challenged my -- to say hey I think we have a video of the whole -- And in doing so he was hoping to flush out my -- wasn't telling the truth so we said look I have this secret videotape will be here.
You've got to tell me what exactly happened -- his immediate response was thank god I was hoping somebody would videotape it meaning.
In my opinion that George is glad that they had incontrovertible evidence of his lack of -- the.
Other police officer today there was also particularly helpful to you.
North Singleton and we should get the mean a whole idea -- -- I assume that.
The defense doesn't want to show you didn't decline to someone who was vicious and wants to kill someone -- -- -- wanna serve played the other side.
And -- had a discussion about face -- that that your client had a discussion the night of the shooting.
With this officer on -- Well it's -- about baby talk about being Christian being Catholic and the fact that there's a commandment that says thou shalt not kill it doesn't even say that shall not kill.
And except for self defense so I think he has -- conviction in his mind.
That he has to follow the -- said he believes it.
And I thought what she -- what Singleton said it was very Africa which was well sure god didn't mean.
But you can't take a life if you're saving -- -- that the point of pussy aggressor is going to be very important is -- gifted jury if the jury thinks your client.
Following -- -- -- -- was a point of aggression take you disagree with that following him.
The -- -- okay and he said he followed them to Charlotte service presents might have been intimidate enemies -- -- to making phone calls two -- -- to a young woman.
Saying that he didn't like the idea this being about.
-- -- -- as sort of threatening to him but the question is when there's a perception and let's say that Trayvon Martin received a choice to be following him.
What does that perception allow violent -- and I don't think it does I fight follow you it doesn't you can turn around.
And attack you with a knife but with a fast so I think what the way -- law in Florida is as you can resist polite force with like force.
The trip -- on truly believe that he was being followed that say they can turn around say.
Get away from.
What what are you cannot do was -- -- somebody breaks knows what.
The world do you think that the prosecution showed the hit an -- on the day after the shooting.
Your client before it'll lawyer went out with the -- -- to the scene videotape that showed to the jury today.
And I never in my wildest dreams that the prosecution would ever put that on an -- seen -- being who have evidence they have been able to put it on why it put them on.
I'm thinking that they may put it on because if they failed to put it on and it came out the jury that it was there it would -- a real question why they didn't sort of live in a very bitter pill to swallow.
The one they felt that they had to.
He doesn't video of him with a bandage on his head and it couldn't individualist bad for the prosecution and I would -- -- I mean really.
Act in my wildest dreams at a mega seller tried to hold it -- -- your client has essentially testified.
For the jury and you'll never take the witness him.
But taking the witness stand as you know is always a tough decision maker any defense attorney in any case we always wait until we decide the state has gotten such a strong case.
That I feel the jury actually may find my guy guilty.
Then I'll make a decision whether or not he has testified want to see if they get to that level if you're making -- call today dead to put on defense basically find -- and we have the defense case to put on.
The decision whether or not Georgia testify is still up in the air until they prove to me that they have a case what you -- but once you put on defense case now you're defending -- for the jury.
Mean right now I have got a situation where the two police officers stayed essentially -- lay a glove on your client can actually help them.
You've got inning you've got -- reenactment see your client testifies.
Without that when -- without having any cross exam for the prosecution.
What in the world could you -- more on the case look at an example there are a lot of people out there who testified that he was George's voice screaming for help.
They'll be some as well -- members of both sides still say it was traded on markets for you for help I think the jury's gonna have to hear.
From both sides that some examples of that we may have to do anymore.
I'm sure there's you know -- other witnesses out there let's remember of people like.
Chris Serena was on the stand right now was actually investigated over everything -- -- -- voted for very small part of it.
I may wanna get into more of what he has done what he -- found out who tell him.
She had a hit some good about the judge to make you watch it she may not take on and -- -- on -- -- -- -- media she is running a very good and -- courtroom she reminds me whenever she needs to that I can't -- speaking objections.
And I'm OK with the -- she -- -- cordless -- and I tip my -- to once they said that -- the -- California -- of long -- -- here.
I -- you may be wearing us out but death.
You know -- it -- shut down at 2 o'clock in the afternoon at 3 o'clock -- -- -- -- it is all day every day this is right.
I'm I'm supposed to do.
But thanks for much W join us again this could be a long -- medical students return.
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