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Welcome back everybody and we continue now with our coverage of the -- -- on Martin George Zimmerman.
Murder trial jurors are on trial for second degree murder wanna bring in -- quickly our panel least we'll Fox News legal analyst and former prosecutor -- Jenkins.
And ask you.
He started off -- in cross examining the medical examiner.
By mentioning her history and whether she had been let go from her prior job and now.
Down in Florida just sporting some some editorial on that.
Where what he may have been going for there were some allegations against her.
She was appointed by the governor 2011 there was a letter obtained by the mayor's office of the state medical Examiner's commission that she -- -- -- In which the city was claiming that employees had seen her using the autopsy sink to wash her feet.
Using her bare hands to perform procedures.
And even demanding unnecessary autopsy is to raise the bottom line and -- That didn't stop there complaints from employees bullying hostile environments on so forth.
I don't know what he -- to get further into that but that that's all part.
Of the attempt to discredit the witness -- yes minimized her credibility absolutely they're already doing that even forgot about when we just brought in which is incredible and and an amazing that I'm sure going to be coming after the autopsy sync to yes -- -- I don't mean is it really let you fix that you have paint the whole picture but they -- -- even before this this new information -- because she says.
-- -- -- consistent with minor injuries right but -- cross examination he's going very thoroughly through -- we have second there were two lacerations on the back of the net that couldn't happen with just one meeting of the head with a concrete it must have been more.
-- that that's that's what you sort of wondered as you listen to that point faith I mean it whether their biggest -- they looked relatively small.
Those injuries in the back of the head you wonder how that could happen with just one slamming of the head against the -- -- what.
The point that the prosecutors making -- -- witnessing with her testimony if it's certainly inconsistent with you being punched 25 to thirty times.
Are your hate being repeatedly slammed into the concrete to the point where you're going to lose consciousness.
I think that the the point -- towards their -- certainly embellished.
The part of his testimony we know there was some physical contact between tours and make a trade bond market but the question a jury has to -- -- -- Are his injuries significant enough to justify towards -- in the attorney -- shooting him you can't turn it did not know who have done but they're also not -- -- well that is not the clay is what -- No it isn't you know -- -- -- let me tell what I think the question you don't let -- -- I think the legal question is not where his injuries significant that.
He was actually facing death -- in -- filing arm.
Did he believe it exactly what you really look at English behind you in the sense of that it may never know looking at injury that a factor in that determination OK okay but lately let me stop you because I don't want to mislead our viewers -- what the legal standard because they -- The defense does not have the -- that I mean.
The jury does not have to believe he was actually about to die examine or actually about to suffer severe bodily harm.
They have to believe he thought he won this what what -- -- let's head at that moment that's Florida law actually it's what a reasonable exactly leave situation not just what -- in his hand and don't -- injury his injury if -- factor in that configuration.
-- so so they're trying to diminish -- the wife.
The US I mean answer me this my my feeling is -- I haven't practiced -- -- if I were advising this witness who pushed to stand I'd go up there at sayegh got hit you can -- I mean he's got -- lacerations got a broken nose.
It's not the worst that I've ever seen it's not great but she seems to be trying very hard to minimize -- these threats to me if I'm sitting in the jury box and thinking.
Why is she doing exactly and -- jurors -- especially experts to be unbiased you know to be if they're being paid by the state yes of course that's their job but still to be on my -- a medical examiner with.
-- feet I guess I -- Just that it a lot of hello I am a medical look at the heart she's not supposed to be -- and evidence one wearing -- -- she's not supposed to be out anybody's side make and that's the point -- and and what I mean.
The business about Angela Corey appointing her I don't know -- was that persuasive that that to me is like -- -- -- -- appoint her but.
But the but the stuff about like how she's being.
She's -- not really willing to give much on some of these injuries.
I don't may -- having the opposite effect of the one she intends.
She's she's trying to say to her analyses is completely independent doesn't matter who she worked for and it sports the cross examination on her working for the state attorney got hurt and about twenty criminal trials and telling my case right it it's what for a criminal defense -- do they work with the -- they have they try to create -- illusion of bite back a -- comes and medical examiners and forensic.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yeah at night I understand he and you got other things -- you've got if the jury believes that Zimmerman screaming help.
Help help -- that's completely different that's -- -- you know it doesn't they're they're not gonna I don't think they're gonna say there are only small lacerations -- mean it it that if they believe that was -- and not Martin.
That they're gonna believe that he -- was a man who was very scared I haven't necessarily -- -- -- They get that testimony -- came in this morning go through Zimmerman -- his interview was shot I want to ask you about that because we had a than a minute left a face.
Your thoughts -- that the prosecution played that interview well.
The working from behind your -- had a lot of issues in the trop they don't have anything to lose but the here towards their mistake he has no regrets.
About getting out of his car following trade on Martin's shooting and killing him in -- would got wield that -- stunning.
Thanks Ghana Nigeria lose -- nothing to lose that but -- a lot to -- and they think you think already think they have all of these beaten if they heard a story numerous times just another time he's giving you think if they're gonna point out you know what it is it now what it means.
Is that he really doesn't have to take the stand it no sorry I can't go -- at least what about the -- point of it was God's plan and that and the mother of the victim is sitting in the courtroom like.
We've got now I have my seventy you know to be tempted to be deadly because of -- -- that's why it's so important I think -- it hasn't happened yet that the prosecution if they wanted to get something honey this has got to include lesser included in those jury instructions manslaughter negligent ha I assault something like that because of the and then at that Jerry's has -- where it wasn't second degree.
But we have a dead boy here we -- -- punish Lieberman for something what can we do now I don't know I mean I I see your point is at the prosecution -- that the jury that the viewers.
A jury in a sense now they couldn't just pulled out one SoundBite from Hannity they would have -- think that what a bunch more in for completeness in the defense liberal accurately us right so you know they they were in a -- if they if it was all about that -- -- at least gives him something argue in closing about.
State of mind and how he still didn't.
You know he he seem callous even after that I they have a shot at him taking the stand before that make it and now I don't see that shot he's not taking a stand -- knocking arts.
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