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I have -- all right Elaine thanks for watching us tonight the FBI and the IRS.
That is -- subject of this evening's talking points memo a conservative group called the America's center for law and justice sets.
That the federal bureau investigation has not even contact as I -- contact.
Any of the 41 groups involved in a class action suit against the iris.
As you may know the federal tax agency admits it targeted some conservative organizations and individuals.
Delaying tax exempt status and auditing some people because of their political beliefs.
It's a huge scandal if true.
And it is the FBI's job to see if anything criminal.
Was going -- But two weeks ago law director Robert Mueller stunned the nation when he testified in front of -- house committee.
Can you tell me some bases can you tell me how many agents investigators -- assigned to the case.
May be able to do that I have to get back to tell me the lead investigator.
Flat out embarrassing.
After hearing mr.
Mueller say that I said this.
Muller doesn't know are you kidding me.
Surely he knew.
He'd be asked about the IRS investigation in front of the Judiciary Committee surely he knew that.
It -- doesn't know.
Specifics about the IRS investigation is because he doesn't want to know.
Well today there are charges my analysis was correct that the FBI is either dragging its collective feet or stonewalling.
The IRS investigation.
At least five different IRS offices improperly handled request from.
Conservative operations for tax exempt status.
Also the former director of the IRS -- -- and was signed into the White House.
Tops far more than any other federal official.
Why we -- -- there.
It is the FBI's job to find him.
But apparently the bureau considered by some to be the finest investigative agency in a world.
Not up and running yet.
On the biggest federal case in some time.
That make any sense to anyone.
-- no makes no sense at all.
There is deep suspicion that the man oversees the FBI attorney general Eric Holder is not invest it.
In getting information about the IRS abuses.
So this continues to be one big mess.
And an acute embarrassment.
To this country.
And some -- top story tonight is mention.
The American Center for Law and Justice is alleging that the FBI's not aggressively investigating the -- joining us now from Washington.
Jordan is so low the executive director of that group so maybe the FBI is investigating any guys just don't know about it.
Right -- -- week we've got a situation here where the attorney general was the first top administration official bill.
Four days after lowest Lerner made that play to question which was -- with -- at least the deputy chief of staff at the White House and the acting IRS commissioner Doug Miller.
Four days later the attorney general Eric Holder saying we're going to do the full criminal investigation with the DOJ and FBI.
And then here we go pres Obama the next day makes his comments condemning the targeting of groups because of their political viewpoint.
And then a month later you know June 13 and then again in June 19 were barely getting any information at all David -- the US senators in that members of congress who were questioning.
Director -- but we have been asked repeatedly and we keep confirming with all 41 of our clients who have filed a federal lawsuit.
If they've gotten any contact at all.
From the FBI that would be.
Where were the where to start I mean all the FBI knows we filed a lawsuit the list of groups is there their contact information where to find and who they are.
And not one of them.
In -- -- in what war over a month now we're looking at six weeks has been contacted.
By the FBI for this investigate.
-- it's damning.
Evidence to be sure.
There might be an explanation of course the FBI's I'm gonna tell us what it is because they can't comment on act of whatever the mumbo Jumbo is -- throwing out.
But I will I -- submit to you that it looks terrible that Muller's performance was embarrassing.
That if you look at the record in its totality the attorney general doesn't seem to have any desire to find out any thing.
About this at all because it will reflect poorly or could reflect poorly back on his boss Barack Obama.
The big question is did the IRS coordinate this.
There are five offices now not -- Cincinnati but other offices and a with the White House why was this guy in there a 157.
Times and the FBI has the power to find that out.
It looks bad.
Is there any other -- like to add to that.
-- -- hit it.
It not only looks bad it's as if everyone came out remember he had not just Republicans and conservatives but.
Democrats as well condemning him -- the president he would and I generally but when I got it.
Yeah -- -- why they're always there -- lied when she gave her first statement so that's why she's not talking.
What I'm wondering bill -- if they are just not getting any cooperation because everybody at the IRS and maybe some of the White House officials.
Is also asserting their Fifth Amendment right that I'm not going to testify you ought to prosecute -- try.
It but they -- -- -- -- didn't realize how far -- -- and the -- and actually get a -- not gonna tell you.
Jordan's I know what we would know how far the investigation is going if our clients have been.
-- contacted and then also leave your clients are gonna take the fifth but remember in Libya it was the same dance.
President so we're gonna find out what happened.
The FBI was going to be sent in and so far the FBI has found out upped its as far as we know maybe they've found out more to -- thirty days to even get in there.
Okay because it was dangerous maybe it's dangerous to go into the IRS offices I don't I don't know maybe it's dangerous interview your clients they've -- dangerous.
Politically for -- like it or what what we think ability into the date is that is our lawsuit progresses and you see lowest -- now trying to get this immunity which would affect the civil lawsuit.
This idea that all these folks who play it did this question and had all this time to do so.
Lied that day and thought that big groups who -- represented by groups such -- illegal organizations like us didn't have their letters from the -- -- That year that if you couldn't say that it was just it was done in 2011 and we got it handled.
And it was just Cincinnati people.
They that alone is a reason why go -- defense lawyer like Dominique Strauss Kahn's lawyer let it take the fifth there's no -- I -- -- -- -- -- bad things happened and the FBI's charges of find out.
Whether they were -- -- not now just I got sixty seconds left.
This -- to -- -- following his class action lawsuits can take years it's gonna take a long time -- Well it's interesting we're already -- the IRS trying to do a couple things the new acting commissioner who were -- first is this fast track.
Idea of self serve of times we represents C threes and see fours and out of the 41.
But basically all the C fours are getting that letter were analyzing it now we haven't made a decision on that it came right before we get close the holiday.
They will do that -- doesn't really affect the lawsuit.
There's also discussion from the tax advocate which is -- executive branch inside the White House.
Who is a kind of like a watchdog saying that maybe they should get a thousand bucks -- all these groups because they waited so long they paid application fees.
That is not so -- the -- is going to try we think.
To get this stopped before they could be open to discover they're on a settlement was -- -- sure this would be about the broadest discovery of the I cannot Tennis Channel led.
Yeah can simply let it.
Well we're looking first of all the fast track wouldn't change our lawsuit for the most -- and well well look -- organization wants.
I think clarity well why it happened who has resolutely -- -- they can help.
-- -- try to -- it went up how many people were involved.
-- was responsible I would like you to tell me personally if the FBI does contact any of your crew.
So we can continue to update the story certainly thanks very much we appreciate it -- out -- -- out.
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