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-- former State Department senior advisor Christian white and Christian is the author of the upcoming book Smart power between diplomacy and -- always good to see you thanks for joining us.
Turned to be Eric what do you make -- these latest developments.
Well it's interesting I mean with moralis it was reasonable to suspect that he might -- noted on his plane after early was coming from an energy conference in Moscow.
He's an anti American icon in South America perhaps trying to take the mantle of that recently deceased Hugo Chavez.
And I recently and neighboring Bolivia -- -- neighboring Ecuador came off the table Ecuador deciding it didn't want to commit economic suicide to receive Snowden.
So Bolivia might be -- next best choice so yeah we took a look or I think Austria took a look at the request of the US and other NATO.
Allies cooperating which is a good sign ultimately this -- a fugitive and law abiding country should wants him to be arrested.
And so the fact that there are some of our allies not everybody but some of our allies.
Are trying to help out and seem to be on the side in the US government you -- this is that this is a good thing.
It's positive thing especially in you know in light of the hub bub over alleged US spying on the EU.
The fact is all of these governments.
First of all engagement helens get intelligence gathering.
Themselves -- it was most humorous seeing France complain about alleged US intelligence gathering.
But you know Germany is a country in particular that has benefited from US signals intelligence that helped keep western many free for forty years during the Cold War.
They also I think these countries realize.
The governments have secrets that need protecting and it's not up to a 29 year old punk to decide.
Which secrets our enemies get to receive meanwhile the guardians Glenn Greenwald who was the first with the -- scoop.
A number of weeks ago says that another bombshell is coming just -- but explain to our viewers Christian what damage has been done.
By this information being leaked out the way that it has been.
I think it's been getting slowly -- -- first frankly I didn't think it was a big deal from a national security point of view.
That the fact the US government is spying on half to all of americans' phone records was revealed.
I think terrorists know they're being monitored in their communications I don't think Americans knew that.
However Snowden -- Greenwald for that matter have morphed into sort of garden variety anti American.
The process of receiving classified information it's one thing for reporters to receive tidbits it's another thing for reporters like Greenwald to receive.
Computers full if you will of classified information the documents themselves and then to process those in -- those that makes them.
Part of the crime frankly -- You know it's a bad the developments have been getting worse we've been talking about sources and means this is becoming embarrassing for the US with the Obama administration and the EU so it's gone from I think questionable and a possible -- blowing.
Exercise to something that really is criminal espionage we will see how this plays -- Christian -- new book.
Coming out soon Smart power between diplomacy and war enjoy the rest your holiday Christian thank you.
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