Also in this playlist...
This transcript is automatically generated
While they may be home on break but they're not beating big key lawmakers getting an earful from constituents over this immigration bill -- reform portion Washington.
Something my next guest says.
He's been warning about four months Chris crane is the head of the ice agents union and says.
This bill is putting handcuffs on law enforcement.
What do you make of -- Well -- this is a big story there's 12100 pages to this legislation marriage so -- let me just start off by saying.
Of the people that came to this country illegally that are currently in this country illegally right now came here on visas they overstayed those -- They never came in contact -- would they ever come in contact with the US Border Patrol.
But this legislation.
Does absolutely nothing.
To address that 40% almost half of our entire illegal immigration problem the United States doesn't even address it so what -- should Japan do what do what what do we do do just that one where we give them we give people visas.
And they just stated visas expire and they become illegals.
Well the first thing we need is a biometric entry exit system and it needs to be at the seaports and needs to be at the airports and needs to be at the land borders the land borders.
Make up approximately 90% of all entries and exits from the United States but but -- the river -- however have a lot of time but that won't affect the 40% you just address -- realm where if you I -- secure the borders first but but got how to -- -- -- -- Make sure the 40% or we cut that number down they don't stay -- stay their -- Well currently Eric right now nationwide we have 5000 immigration agents trying to police.
I'm approximately forty million aliens in the United States eleven million here -- thirty million that are here legally.
We don't have the manpower to do the job I mean the Los Angeles police department has 101000.
Officers we've got 5000 nationwide.
I'm trying to police -- so we need a way to identify who comes in and out of this country.
And we need the officers.
To locate apprehend and remove them -- -- them.
On why you want to somehow you're -- -- got me I agree with you 100% there quickly to -- about it -- about the closing the border.
What Bob giving some of that federal land away or selling the federal when she actually give it away -- farmers -- that they got to keep their border close I know it's not.
Can take business away from you -- with the ice agents but it may be you an effective way to do that.
The the borders down there you know that's really not our thing we we do everything in between the -- -- that's really not gonna taking business away from us you could.
All right bullet until women do on this -- thank you Chris crane.
And I'm gonna be fair and balanced and bring in Doug Holtz Aiken who supports the senate immigration reform bill and wants to see it passed the house what it will.
For me we I dammit I'm with the senators -- Rand Paul's the senator Ted -- who say.
Close the border first make sure that -- secure and then worry about legislation.
Will certainly you know the -- as many dimensions so if you review the bidding that things that I think.
Stand out about the senate bill are the -- -- economics the CBO said.
UConn is going to be larger the -- it's going to be smaller.
We're gonna see enormous benefits from -- programs temporary worker programs H one -- stems investor immigrants.
-- just moving her immigration system towards American away from family reunification refugees a status that's.
That's a fundamental see change.
In on the way we think about immigration in the United States and positions us to compete and -- 1% -- that's.
Very important and and -- bounced -- other objectives.
Those senators might have and now we go to the house the security issues will rise people talk about whether.
The internal security issues as the -- in the previous segment are adequate.
But the border security.
Measure democratic without -- woods -- that's basically don't secure the border are we gonna continue to have floods and floods of of illegal.
Illegals coming across the border and in -- one you get whatever it is a path to citizenship.
I'm but if you got if you look at the folks -- the analyzes the carefully the CBO -- -- some.
They say that you know you can't trigger the RPI status until the border is operationally secure and it's triggered in 2015 so I think.
While it's fair to raise the Specter of potential wave of immigrants the other things we're doing.
In addition -- did enhanced border security the temporary worker program the agriculture visa program.
Those are ways to backstop those security systems.
And change the -- centers for illegal immigration and that's you know.
If you think about the -- that he can point my point he got to get inside our chart how much are we spending to secure the border now it's it's about the numbers I've heard 34 billion dollars or about right.
And we're gonna roughly double that -- mean you know the CBO estimated at fifty billion dollars in additional spending.
I'm not a border security expert about the costs are substantial the benefits must be substantial imaginable why -- -- the border.
One -- some want to privatize the border.
We'll -- before and or -- say it's going to be a -- they don't we'll save the eight billion dollars will actually make some money from from that as long as.
The people who -- managing those lands along the border.
Are doing it with -- ninety why I don't know 90% effective rate.
They can keep it if they don't we'll switch amount sounds like that's the only offender when you're talking to -- you're talking to an economist at heart I I hear area.
Not everything the government wants to object to -- she has to be done by the government you can.
-- private sector senators for the same public policy objectives and that's what you're talking about I I think the border security's important.
It it's -- going to be a combination of physical presence -- technologies.
But it's also the economics one of the incentives.
To have a secure border and that's the part that I think that this bill does improve.
And your suggestion might make you stronger -- that we got to go very quickly we will will we allow about one point one million legally immigrants in the country may we don't double at number.
They would -- double on the and that's the best way to get some economic boost out of it too quickly -- We're gonna get ten million more according to the senate bill we're gonna get GDP you know three to 5% higher that's good thing with him doing more -- that -- you can thank you --
Filter by section