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-- Jefferson 250 years ago said that those who most here investigations are the ones who attack a free press first that's why every pass is guaranteed.
So that I can as a journalist held my fellow citizens that the government is collecting all of our phone records and email records and tapping into their FaceBook conversations.
And Google chat and and Skype telephone calls this is what journalism is about shining a light on what the most powerful people in the country are doing to them in the dark so we're gonna continue to you have no matter what David Gregory and his friends.
That's guarding economist Glenn green -- he's holding his ground defending his reporting and government -- in -- actions causing a debate over activism and journalists.
Margaret Sullivan -- the public editor at the New York Times wrote this quote.
A real journalists as one who understands -- this other level and doesn't shy away from the adversarial relationship between government and press.
The very tension that America's founders had in mind -- the First Amendment.
Those who fully meet that description deserve to be respected and protected.
There are times media columnist at the -- that warrants that.
I do think activism which is admittedly accompanied by the kind of determination that can prompt discovery.
Can also impair vision.
If an agenda is in play and I meant in this network cracks me go unexplored Judy Miller -- served.
Time and in prison because you're a journalist is -- gone over the line.
No I don't think he has and I think he needs to be defended I think.
He is a journalist with a point of view.
He is a columnist he is a blogger he is now and member of our profession and we ought to stop.
Those people who suggest that he is guilty of some kind of crime.
For soliciting news or encouraging people to talk to him which is what the government tried to say about James Rosen Fox News reporter.
But I don't know didn't -- -- -- is fair and actually being honest.
What would it be fair I mean -- -- -- he has -- point of -- when -- open about it I think the problem.
Is journalists who have an agenda.
Yeah a reader or viewer is not aware and.
We don't know that and involved is fair but -- we leave it to the First Amendment in the battle of ideas to sort that out history will judge whether meanwhile has been.
-- here -- -- but in the meantime.
It's in the interest of all journalists -- -- all Americans protect his right to free speech even as we agree it is Snowden.
As a Wall Street Journal went on -- Wednesday is let's looking less and less glamorous more and more like institute for the Russians.
Monica and -- -- talk about him being here all the talk about him being a traitor what's your view.
Well on -- I think he's -- I don't think there's much doubt about in my mind but on green while this is much more interesting to me because when you look at the rose in case in the idea that an American journalist.
Would be targeted for prosecution.
As part of that conspiracy -- well in the rose in case there were uses the alias is you know you email accounts blind email accounts.
And you can understand why the government I think -- there's something more going on here.
What if you put the government in charge -- -- -- who was a journalist and who's not a journalist I think we undo them First Amendment protections.
The difficulty here is if you get someone like say from.
You know let's say it was a terrorist and says oh yeah I'm working for.
But I really want to undermine US government and all I'm about is ending the American democracy if I think America's a terrible place what what how -- -- -- that person -- not a -- -- -- inspire magazine that al-Qaeda -- -- and that's so that person or journalist I don't think so I think you have.
Have to look -- in the rose in case I think.
The mistake that was made there was lot with law enforcement didn't say wait a second who is this guy and does have a record as a -- background as a professional journals -- Yes he had -- some real questions here and and they're very interesting ones about the distinctions between journalists and propagandist for example an activist.
But the question here in this case is not grand -- Glenn Greenwald I agree with all of you guys that he is not the issue here he was the conduit.
He was the journalist who reported the story that the real question here is about Edwards known.
And Eric you raise a question here or -- I think the media loves a stark distinction.
And they will try to chase down -- stark distinctions black vs white hero vs trader I think he's somewhere in the middle.
Mean I think that you can honestly saying this is not something that the media has really explored of the last couple of weeks.
You can actually be on the side of wanting our state secrets to be protected.
But also being deeply concerned about this kind of -- program and the potential abuses of this program.
You know have a statement from -- let's read that now it says quote in the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistle blowers like -- Bradley Manning -- Thomas Drake.
We are stateless imprisoned and powerless know the Obama administration is afraid -- -- It is afraid of an informed angry public demanding that constitutional government it was promised.
And it should be record -- served for United States ambassadors to the United Nations a member of administrations.
What is I think about that -- -- perspective that the American public should be afraid of the government.
Well I don't think the American public should be afraid of the government but the government has a responsibility.
To make sure that the classified information that it has is protected and that it hires people who will protect that information.
I also don't think that the government should deciding who's a journalist.
Because whether you work for the New York Times Meet the Press or you're a blogger or you're an activist on Twitter.
You are journalists that's pushing these issues the government shouldn't be involved I'll tell you what's really happening here though is be approved to journalist.
In Washington who have been getting all these leaks.
I really upset that Glenn is coming into the forefront and he's an unapproved journalists so that the issue is -- The -- setting up the apple cart within the media world that's -- Including Jerusalem I -- you're smiling laughing got the kind of incestuous.
Relationship in Washington but that won't go to the Georgetown cocktail parties and then.
Yeah and -- anyone Greenwald is not part of that club but I have to point out this is more than a semantic debate.
Because we -- trying to enact a federal shield law to protect sources of journalists.
How you define journalists is going to be very important.
As I say I agree with Thomas Jefferson author of the first men who said that that the government should be afraid of the people.
-- Contrary to what we -- -- -- from -- -- and reports of some snow excuse me the American people are not mad at the American government.
After his revelation to the country when you look at the polls they're mad at Snowden and they think that his behavior in the fact that he's fled the country and not an account well that is left right.
But I will say that's when you look at polling the American people are very concerned about this kind of program and the potential abuses -- correct.
But they did you ask them -- understanding that we live in an age of terrorism Monica if you ask them is this something that the government needs to engage -- they they all it -- -- -- into terrorism only -- -- I don't know and you've got the ball out innovating ourselves aren't 59% say the government surveillance and invades innocent Americans privacy look at that.
Overwhelming majority of Americans think the government's gone too far -- -- But -- if you take young people which I think you've got -- and think about the future of our country young people are overwhelmingly.
With this type except they live on FaceBook they have on Twitter there -- accustomed to having their information out in public.
But yet if that bear.
The idea of what's what's private and so I saw Paul once -- at 77% of young people.
Are truly upset with the government coming down on snow may think it's known as a hero.
-- let's leave it at that and of course there also concerns and questions about that statement that Snowden had weathered a WikiLeaks and it's much and actually.
Maybe that was behind.
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