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Welcome to FOX News Sunday panel plus we've -- immunities to Dennis Kucinich and Juan Williams you've you've gentlemen we're having a fabulous discussion on health care.
As we went to the end of the program and we've said this can often be.
As good if not better than the real progress because it turns out to be more free for also -- and -- what you guys go out.
-- -- just say that the congressman who.
-- -- -- a proponent of the idea of Medicare for roll which we think about it's kind of elegant solution it's a system that's already in place.
Millions use it and depend on and many are satisfied with the and it kinda works a certain way amendment Thomas to to huge driver of our deficit and requested that and government subsidies that are.
The problem I see -- it is that if he tried to do that.
The cost -- that are being restrained by fee schedule that a lot of doctors.
Go along with because they have a lot of patients were not Medicare yet.
And day in effect subsidize the care of those are on it to fee -- not enough to tempt anybody -- to go into the medical profession.
If you had Medicare for all with all -- went with -- you have a very hard time recruiting people to -- doctors country.
Well first why I assure you concerned that if you know if we went to a Medicare for all that we have to provide fair reimbursement for doctors.
But the American public -- It generally unaware government that -- fair reimbursement now generally the American public is not aware.
That currently one out of every three -- our health care dollars.
Goes for executive salaries stock options for marketing advertising cost of paperwork.
And that that includes about 900 billion dollars a year now we are spending a lot of money it within the perfect -- it doesn't go for health care -- And and I think that we -- this current system is broken.
-- the caught medical costs are going up notwithstanding the Affordable Care Act.
Insurance companies are gaming system as -- to have health care for profit.
You're gonna pretend to -- to people without coverage and you're going to have doctors.
Who are losing their practices or who are not able to deprive it doesn't let your interest rates are what driving doctors out of the profession -- that's -- don't cry I cry at the -- -- -- private insurers.
It's it's -- to doctors doctors end up having to be accountants doctors and up.
Being at the mercy of the decisions of insurance -- insurance companies -- -- judge here that is imposing huge burden of paperwork on doctor well of course there is paperwork there's no question about it.
But -- but the bottom line is that the American people in the American economy won't suffer as it is currently.
Under a system that's driven by for profit health care problem extending Medicare to everybody is we are now on a fiscal crisis in this country right in the in this government.
What is driving that.
Medicare and Medicaid.
They're bankrupting the federal government ID showed an 888 to 900 billion dollars a year you could start to cut out of the expenditures.
Because it goes for things don't relate to health care insurance company.
The game in his system and have a passage and this city tournament.
He got to -- what pressure point which is about Medicare and it's exploding -- which are bankrupting the government.
That doesn't have a -- to -- who was what.
Private insurance is it is it is is spending money and it if you -- the car millions more people into the Medicare system -- -- -- that they're already.
Reducing payments are already -- -- -- -- -- rationing but certainly there are a lot of things that they're not covering that they -- to cover and are you headed in the direction of a Canadian system.
Yeah Canada was able to.
Have a competitive advantage.
Against US manufacturers.
Because they were able to provide health care for the people.
Every other industrialized nation world provides health care for its people the American economy might actually let me my former father in law -- Who looks like he's coming down with Parkinson's disease was told he had to wait six months to see a neurologist and a system we want to.
You know the anecdotal stuff I don't know about but I can tell you that I know in America right now -- a lot of that's -- it's not anecdotal but you know what's happening there anecdotal stories that are used to the -- Medicare fraud not saying I can get a lot of anecdotal -- about the private health care industry.
Refusing to pay bills refusing to provide coverage -- you know continue to Jack up.
The cost and not having any.
Resistance from states which don't have the ability regulate them.
-- quote from my perspective.
You know I'm I'm I'm just so fascinated that congressman percentage who I think takes the far left position.
Single pay here is what we should do is in line with American values and providing on here.
Doing away with a failed status quo.
You hear from Brit -- to discontent with the status quo.
But the key here is what can you get enough politicians in this country to vote to support in terms of changing the health care -- Republicans gave a lot of support to the idea -- on the table right now that they reject and the -- don't want any part to do with single Payer.
A lot of the opposition that exists right now at the affordable health -- comes from people who support single -- think that they -- your act doesn't go far enough.
But I think right now what you've got to get in response to congressman Kucinich as you've got to get those exchanges create.
Created an established around the country that provide some competition among the insurance companies.
If you can get insurance companies.
To compete and help keep prices down you have a chance here.
Well it political time on this because he wants to address another very important issue that's the Texas abortion bill comes up for a vote again expected next few days.
Well I just wanted to comment on on the whole Wendy Davis issue because I say this is a case of legislator whose check up and his -- And became suddenly among the chattering class in Washington -- new York and elsewhere a hero of women.
And what was she opposing she was opposing a bill that would make it illegal to abort a baby after twenty weeks.
A majority of women support that definitely an up a majority of Americans support that.
Issues she was.
And she was just trying to say that they were going to close down these abortion clinics when in fact they're trying to bring them up to.
Health standards and you -- if you don't mean it definitely play 37 at the fortitude that currently exist in Texas would be closed as well that's that that was their argument that argument was also made in Pennsylvania about that law.
Some closed down it wasn't nearly what the pro abortion rights crowd -- said it was.
But on to make -- didn't intend to let this woman stand as the kind of -- the purveyor of thinking of women.
I -- and accuse me insane she's being bullied by men in fact it misses the issue the issue is abortion and -- widespread.
Public acceptance in this country.
For limiting abortion making it safe legal and rare and -- -- Hillary Clinton and certainly I'm putting up.
How things were here it's I'm waiting -- for the outcry from.
The people on the left who so readily condemn filibusters conducted by Republicans in the US senate.
Who suddenly found this woman who conducted this filibuster with the aid of a huge mob in the gallery a great hero what -- what do you like about.
-- what -- said about.
-- -- We're what businesses -- it -- to bring in her personal life and whatever -- if he be as it is they'll serve their a lot of single mothers in this country.
I don't think he was helping his cause she wasn't -- that's on the issues are not I don't but I think you raise your mother Jean she made a decision and and he makes it out like that was -- she should've learned her lesson that's exactly playing.
200 -- that Governor Perry has taken a position to repeal roe -- way.
Now that provides for.
For 24 week period.
This this bill in Texas legislature reduced it to twenty.
The real concern here is a Roe vs.
Wade is under attack.
Which means -- right privacy of one's right -- -- to -- health care service under attack.
And what we really don't care what look here's what Hitler threatened America this -- being used to divide people.
We have to look for ways to heal this country on this issue where we should be making abortions rare but at the same time how do you do that.
Prenatal care post Natal care childcare universal health care living wage this.
Let me just wasn't talked a lot about in the 2012 presidential election one's commitment.
Well because because no case in Italy does -- case -- Newton in attendance at state level efforts to restrict abortions to reward this barbaric practice of late term abortions in which and of course we know John seemingly every day more about how fully developed a fetus is by twenty weeks and beyond.
And it I think in the imagination of the public is -- Looks at this at this this this is -- -- this is a baby.
Yeah I think that's exactly right but I baby from -- woman from the -- -- pro choice perspective.
-- birth defects and other abnormalities that are detector can't be detected before that.
That point and so this comes to congressman percentage is point that -- and I think.
-- about to look at what you're into.
There was discussion of this in terms of the war on women is the Democrats tried to launch into the Republicans is you know going after.
Invasive ultrasound before and all the rest.
But president President Obama didn't -- -- take this on because he understands which is what -- mean it was thank you ask the American people.
They don't want to discuss abortion in this way they they find so divisive and troubling is what's gonna help him.
I -- I -- -- recommend that we -- -- I just wanna -- can't everybody agreed at one point two million abortions a year where it is every year it's way too many.
-- -- -- -- Thanks very much panel great discussions.
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