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Right you are listening there to what the air traffic control tower sounded like seconds after.
The AG at a flights to fourteen crashed in San Francisco.
The audio -- shortly before the crash -- the pilots don't sound rattled at all in the air traffic controllers don't sound rattled at all so what exactly happened inside the -- Our next guest has experience in both the cockpit and the control -- a pilot and former air traffic controller Robert mark joins us this morning Robert great to see this morning thanks for waking up -- this early morning.
I I think they were probably in shock.
I mean win when -- when they hit.
The the paying that you know -- the gear often and the engine.
-- probably so so intense and so surprising -- -- That they were prop you know -- just on the airplane -- I'm sure they were just completely dazed and had no idea what the situation was at that point.
Robert we understand that.
Pilots should be approaching severed -- of international airport at 500.
Feet per minute coming down at that level that these guys are coming out of 14100.
Feet -- -- what does that tell you.
Well it it is a little unusual that they were common down -- sets that the best vertical rate gets the outcome of the rate their falling.
Toward the runway it's -- controlled fall but.
You know what again -- the one thing we're not.
Completely positive all of is how long they kept that rate up but did the point is is that.
They under shot the runways what was what we would call it which means it landed short.
And they landed way short I mean they should have been touching down way further down the runway.
And the question is.
Why I mean was it because they weren't paying attention they were distracted by something.
Or could something have failed I mean if they had a power plant problem.
Like that airplane is in Heathrow for years ago right with all the drag out -- they would never been able you know it would have been a challenge -- -- to get it to the runway at that point.
-- we heard from the CEO Louisiana air saying it was no mechanical failure but you know passengers on board describing interview.
Certainly you've flown in SFO think we all have.
You know that last few moments when you're flying over the water they.
-- -- down see the water there and you know that the runways approaching these passengers said that they saw the water look like it was only ten feet away from.
That's probably because that's about all they did have between them and but again I think that you know -- I've talked to a couple of might my buddies over the last 24 hours and in -- trying to figure out the same thing when when you're on a visual approach to any runway like that you have a certain view of the runway and you know what it's supposed to look like.
And it's it's pretty easy to figure out when your lol when your high -- -- your right enough in the ballpark.
And how these guys could've been this low and not noticed it is really.
Impossible for us to tell but that again makes us think -- or something else going on.
And when you're landing a plane is a plane landing -- self.
Or are pilots actually in control doing if there some sort of automatic landing system.
That the plane it does or are these pilots really controlling.
Well hey there there is an instrument landing system that is tied to the auto land function on some of these airplanes but the FBI -- system.
Was out of service -- -- left at San Francisco yesterday and it's been out for awhile so.
They were using another kind of approach system but even then.
Now the last 10200.
Feet they're normally flying that manually.
Robert mark is a pilot and a former air traffic controller great expertise this morning he's rejoining us a little bit later in the show as we see more of this investigation unfold this morning thanks rob thanks so much Robert.
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