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-- itself some of my favorite family members -- conservative however bizarre as the Media Research Center and news busters.
And you're you've got to your website is correct.
I mean you've really got your niche there one -- as I'm sure you come to it every day.
What I not by choice but -- -- -- -- -- -- that are -- of an open well I Google myself anyway but I get the Google alert but I often you know we do segments on on Fox News that are often based on.
What do you do with many -- -- I you know I hope whether we we you know we may disagree on things.
I hope -- that at least.
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-- what what has been in the media and you could talk about the puff -- abortion and -- times the Washington posted on Obama and basketball.
But you know it why is it.
That the media did it isn't isn't any personal responsibility on the part of Republicans and Mitt Romney pretty of their candidate an event camp and the question.
I think I'm looking at it as objectively as I think I can't.
I think you can make the argument that Barack Obama.
Was perhaps the most vulnerable incumbents in my I think I was I think it possible.
Get bad economy didn't do as well as he thought the economy took -- -- And I think another candidate could have beaten -- oracle.
I think I think Mitt Romney and no excuse I think Mitt Romney should have been able to -- more with one arm tied behind -- back.
-- there are a lot of factors that went into this campaign.
A -- booked a primary one being that -- If -- -- and the fact that he's surrounded himself with corporate CEO types -- nothing about campaigning and all I I don't suggest that.
It is the media and only the media who are responsible.
Well but the book is called help the media stole the twenty industries like for the trees -- sell books and if you're the media got -- up because it.
If the media I've I I've I believe this firmly and I think the book substantiates this.
If the media had to the news media.
Had done their job and reported this campaign.
And they treated Barack Obama no differently than they treated every of Republican.
Or conversely treated -- Republican like they treated -- Obama I don't think there's any doubt in my mind that he would have been reelected.
I know you needed a better candidate Mitt Romney for example you say in the book.
With the media talked about how Romney said I like firing people OK I mean the media he did say that.
I mean I -- and that's something you know that sounds like -- used by both sides over and over again.
To demonize the other side right right now what was the context of what -- set.
These you will that's important that's the play OK you don't do you you you can make -- you can say -- did he.
Really cut someone's hair.
Didn't get the kind of attention that a lot of -- got over 40000 we all know I don't argue you can plug in or -- thousand -- -- if you're gonna do for a thousand words a Mitt Romney's high school years.
And then turn around and do -- same number of words or more.
Arnold -- Obama.
Why do you focus on -- Obama and his love for basketball right in his only to have one guard in the -- -- -- one of about thousand examples I would give you.
But but just just one example if you can it do if you're gonna do his high school years.
Why not write about what -- Obama himself wrote about it.
He was thought it.
Why didn't that make it into the stores George Bush -- of your -- was a -- you know so what that got to how much attention to that that's my point exactly that's my point -- bush got elected what but that was discussed where discussions -- with -- news reports about bronco -- you know opponent that you may have a point there and that may -- it's like we don't -- to do that to a black.
We don't want to take a black -- and make him into a drug user because will be perceived as a basis to whom the most is them I think there is I think on the part also of Republicans there was some of that -- they didn't want to.
They don't want us off because they didn't want to be stereotype that what I think it was that -- I think it's unfortunate.
Because I think we're both liberals and conservatives are concerned when when they think that way they are in fact.
And I think your part to some extent probably there was a bit of hands off on both sides you don't wanna be perceived is getting -- I lately I think if that's the case.
I think the black candidate.
Barack Obama should have felt insulted by that may be -- when I politely and well I wish I wish you would because I think he should you know that's a good point.
Also we continue to hear about the birth -- stuff and Donald Trump I mean.
He look how much publicity Donald Trump got on all media left and right -- -- it interesting character great for sound bite people putting Amman and the -- really -- again with a birth certificate.
You know I mean I got a lot of attention all they're going to be people who cut in tennis on their heads and having messes just on Mars coming there's going to be -- quick jumper that's gonna happen if the president put -- -- Gary.
I don't know orders are counting on -- trump likes attention and he does things for no pretension.
I don't think that that you know iPad conservatives come to me with -- with this discussion.
And my issue -- is -- you're never gonna win and really it doesn't hurt him in her jail.
And also the thing about -- a Muslim he's.
The Jeremiah Wright stuff was -- by the time Tony twelve rolled around -- -- -- -- are still puzzled by the time when it.
Nobody and friction with salt I don't think it was so look -- the National Guard wasn't all that George Bush met with 1971.
But I wouldn't -- Leslie -- -- think Mitt Romney haircuts and I -- sixty (%expletive) I stopped but process what is on both sides -- gonna use that but once we adjudicated he coached the jury meaning the voters shouldn't we at that point OK -- he ran on that last time put it well tonight wasn't Bill Ayers wasn't comfort.
Billy opened I don't know I don't know it was not covered and if -- -- at the same time it's not mean is that if you just just look at it and look at the analysis it was not covered as an historic Jeremiah Wright.
They wouldn't touch Jeremiah where are we don't have any income we talked about almost everything we had Jeremiah Wright Alicia -- did and that's why I also will maintain there is more news.
Coming out of opinionated talk radio.
Then there is coming early this thing you know that opinion you talk radio and how much damage you've done on this and -- busters or Media Research Center.
You don't talk radio is 95% -- talkers magazine.
Conservative liberals do not have the -- signals and talk radio this -- a whole other conversation but we don't have anywhere near the clout -- protect national public radio.
Well that's a good they -- -- it's true they don't get raided those commercial radio doesn't -- some markets they do.
But that that is nowhere still in comparison to the number of conservatives are totally no question the conservatives dominate the thinking at NPR the concerned that they dominate that the left dominance -- Disney with the exception of fox now conservatives can feel very happy about the fact that that is a dying.
Industry broadcast television is dying ground has already you've got to terrestrial radio -- there's like -- it's all changing -- media I mean they sold this week for a dollar and it still didn't work don't you feel the -- -- that.
And you mentioned this to the digital media -- it has to even -- -- the playing field that you can go to any URL any website any domain.
It -- matter how high up if you got a high cable number you're screwed but that doesn't matter on line.
You can do it's it's a free marketplace on the -- I think that is also very problematic.
In the sense than and I -- conservatives just be careful what you wish for.
Because as you you may be condemning.
The bias that does exist and -- horrific in the national -- but at least there are purportedly there are rules they may not be following them.
Put in the Internet is the wild wild west and there are no rules a look at what you've done of the unit do you think conservatives or liberals to veteran of the drug was the first one there and -- -- -- -- both sides have gone very well but look you know you've got some basic rules you gotta follow them both sides cheat on this.
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I guess is -- -- resorted tailspin for.
So if your first name was Leo you'd think it helped us through -- Leo.
L Brent -- let's keep it at that are ideal breakfast sent people to rent a unique and that the -- it's got some liberation to a -- Brazil and Tim -- a -- written collusion how the media still the 2012 election and has stopped them.
From doing it in 2016.
I gotta tell you though it sounds like sour grapes because you -- you had a -- candidate you acknowledge that.
Which -- you another candidate probably -- beaten Barack Obama thought the media's fault.
No I don't believe and and and it would never suggested that it was the media -- only the media.
Probably I will say they're there and number of different reasons why why.
Obama won reelection.
You gotta put into the next the fact that he had an extraordinarily.
I don't his through his mastery of social media crowd isn't I -- he's light years ahead of the Republicans on that oh you work in the precincts were in the -- you know a -- to get you know getting great ground he had a -- -- -- -- great ground game but -- -- -- -- Fast like Indian -- were using it should think the ground game that he had in 2008.
The people that I -- community organizers stayed in the communities they became part I mean so you can give you can look at lots of reasons why it happened.
And simply saying if you look at the news media itself.
I think they did hate her rip it up the news media.
You are happy with the news media.
And every -- you're happy with.
The so called liberal media do they ever get it right you know I think he wants what they got to -- -- they got it magnificently right after an analyst.
I watched after 9/11 I watched men like Dan rather.
Break down in tears on the Letterman show and that was to exhaustion.
That have looked and I really did.
Because he was covering that story day and night for dates.
And -- node in the -- people -- back.
To to to Tim Russert.
-- with this the tribute that he gave that that -- could you not weep.
Loved hearing him give that Ashley Banfield walking the streets of New York covered with dust and -- yeah I think there's been shining moments and I'll say this.
Winston Churchill I paraphrase all the time.
Where he said democracy is the world's worst form a government except for all the rest of well I'll say this our American Media at their worst form of -- news media in the world.
Except for all the rest.
The book calling under the subtitled how the media stole.
Between twelve election you went back and forth about them the word -- right and whether that should be part of the title or to think.
When a win -- he was first suggested I thought this is hyperbole.
In arranged and we need to sell books and we need to say outrageous things we all do then that's great how bad -- but is this is as a bridge too far.
And I was hesitant.
And -- reluctant to do it.
Then my colleague Tim Graham went off for a couple months and put together the research to look at it.
And this is most of that was our own research but we hadn't stepped back to analyze and for the entire year.
We came back and we looked at it -- you know I can defend that.
I can defend that based on the selection research you did actually I affirm your worst fears just like if you know we know it transcended my worst fears down.
I'm -- -- we thought all these things work when -- happened but they were worse to Bristol for example.
He wasn't just that they did -- -- character assassination on the Republican candidates while refusing to cover.
Don't think the controversies and scandals he wasn't just that it was reporters people like Jonathan Alter.
-- -- -- key part of the Washington Post writing pieces declaring that there were no controversies.
That it was a miracle administration.
I let it surge when -- the other male cherry pick on both sides those who whitewash what's going on the the Project for Excellence in Journalism.
Did some research and they found that.
The let's say -- -- let me just get to the heart of what they said.
That for example.
I'm trying to let let me remind me bankers and the pew research center for people in the press -- 1128 working journalists in 2008.
And found that in the national media 53% self identified as -- 32% as liberal -- 8% -- conservative he often will say you think most.
People in newsrooms are or liberal but that the other you know you can pick your study can't give you confirm what you want.
-- let you know don't you find it curious that most liberals in the media deny date that not only do they -- the liberals they denied they have a -- McAllen it is impossible not have a bias.
I get very insulted by -- so why have no -- unless you've had a lot -- friend's got a virus like what you gotta do whether it -- it transmits video unused -- -- when you were on the car on on it when it was Andy -- -- did you want -- say well I'm not a liberal and better have a -- I'm proud to say I'm a liberal but I never present myself as an objective report exactly but you weren't.
But when you've got people who are advancing an agenda and calling themselves objective reporters he got a problem the the people of the project for excellence I mentioned earlier.
They said that the negative assessments of Obama outweigh the positive by a ratio of four to one.
In the run up to the when he spoke I don't know where they get a prompt I don't know that -- I guess we can look I can look at one.
Issue after another -- -- -- where there was half a dozen other scandal a steady 23 weeks in a new week during those five months where they -- -- was.
More than 10% of the coverage about the president positive we studied every network.
Every day for two years yeah.
I mean that's our numbers you go in do you go in with a bias though I -- look to you earlier thing is.
How the liberal media liberal media the media is liberal liberal media.
The word that many people believe the word live -- always modified by the word look if you go in with the assumption that there's a liberal media.
Turn that kind of is looking at things and straight Brent Bozell -- on this chair right now and so ha ha L I don't know bias and I think -- do -- extra thing.
That the media -- -- be seen as a conservative organization.
That I be labeled a conservative.
But my research speaks for itself.
Might be something that you and I do believe when you go to your -- -- -- you everybody researchers say you know what have you ever gonna researchers and the researchers -- if -- could kind of interest -- In 1991.
We did a study on that the war coverage.
Of the media coverage of the war the first gulf war.
And concluded that there was a bias against the military by the media US news.
Took the exact same research and they concluded otherwise.
We can have a debate about that but I will never cherry pick.
I don't cherry pick looking for things to backup -- premise I don't look at it that way if I'm gonna look at how the media are covering.
-- Barack Obama and tax cuts and look at every story on taxes I don't cherry -- if the media didn't lean left would you be if you would you be a business.
At a business finding a job.
Actually I mean really that's what you don't.
I'm Bobby elbow Bernie Goldberg one -- -- former CBS reporter -- is often on the Fox News.
And they criticize me one night and he's a pregnant but he Christmas -- -- and he said that.
The problem to me to -- -- -- only look at liberal bias we don't look at by some both sides.
And to -- -- was asked her mission that's our stated mission -- Iran is that -- that's what -- well but but but you know a media matters -- -- conservatives accept.
They look at conservative -- and they go after commentators is Fox News fair and balanced absolutely.
Actually I do believe -- is why do you.
Because when you look at the critics like Chrysler can answer that question on when you look at Africa when you look at the critics -- Fox News I find it remarkable.
They never critique the news programs.
They're critiquing or O'Reilly Hannity you know those people they don't pretend they've -- -- purposely appeal to conservative audience.
-- and I think what Fox News does it gives you a perspective it gives you.
News that liberals don't so yeah is going to open -- -- -- right.
Put their news product doesn't and you can see it by the fact that liberals who critique Fox News never critique.
Fox News they could take John Kennedy who cannot lose and they could -- O Reilly who's not news but they don't critique prepare they don't could critique Brit Hume.
Or Shepard Smith -- Shepard Smith.
So I think they do a darn good job.
The the opinion shows a clearly able to -- and liberals don't know -- on election.
Right no they don't and you look in wonder doesn't.
Know what had happened here but here's the no question that that the opinion shows -- to the right no question about that.
But we -- we did the study once -- that this is a little bit outdated.
But there were more liberals.
And as as as guest.
Contributors -- -- on fox then there were conservatives -- every other cable network combined.
-- but -- affect his under the you have uphill putt on Amazon receiver knows except for morning Joseph is liberal or progressive.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- certification -- on you know I think it is elementary conservative I don't think so I don't think any more than a major liberal -- Did any liberal beliefs now no I don't have any liberal friends you know we check Hannity so we say don't have any veggies in my family that's so you have to look at but usually I do have liberal -- and you'll be surprised.
Really appealed to you do you believe that on the death penalty is liberal belief.
-- having a death penalty normally limping a post it.
Most people say it that way I'm opposed to the death penalty.
I don't I think you could be a while for one -- Catholics are often posted because of -- pro life in Europe against him definitely that's very consistent sort of see it as a religious -- -- and yes a religious and politically most conservatives are pro death penalty most most most.
Well liberals are guests and so I I'm I'm I'm I'm conservative anti abortion I think the government stay out of -- I don't know how many -- -- would force them to have us back.
Thank you selectively anyway another thank you how it's called collusion of the media stole the 2012 election and had to stop them.
How do you stop them from doing a video clip for at least up and we start watching -- the NSA will be watching Alan Colmes -- carefully from here now -- listeners -- -- get pretty.
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