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Of of former chief of the Sanford police department is now speaking out bill Lee claiming.
He was fired for refusing to a -- George Zimmerman saying quote.
I had one of the city commissioners come to me on two different occasions and say it all we want is an arrest.
And I explained -- them well you can't do that you have to have probable cause.
To -- -- somebody.
And it was related to me that biggest one and harassed they didn't care if it got dismissed later.
You don't do that.
Joining me now David web -- to the -- web show on serious -- and -- patriot channel and Tea Party 365 co-founder Michael wilds joins us.
A former prosecutor an adjunct professor at Benjamin Cardoza School of Law gentlemen good to see about David let me start when you.
Quote I have.
Come -- the decision to make this decision he's their guy the city manager who fired.
Bill -- Did did is that a wrongful termination.
It looks like a wrongful termination Greg in -- number of issues and now come to light in with the FOIA request that judicial watch.
-- after we now see that there was a unit of Department of Justice the community relations service.
And they were there not only pain for rallies to support.
The rallies again Zimmerman but they were exerting pressure by meeting with the RNC they had their upcoming convention in Tampa.
Then we're working with the NAACP.
With a number of officials in the NAACP.
And they were basically fostered a political environment.
And the city had a choice to many so this definitely.
Has the indication of a wrong -- -- Should Michael I wanna get your take -- you don't give a lawyer here and like you know.
It's always you know the police department law enforcement that makes decisions on probable cause and of course prosecutors to prosecute since wind is the city manager get -- -- I can actually speak from two different hats Greg in hi David it's been awhile.
I'm a former mayor myself in New Jersey.
And -- -- city manager form of government and of that city manager felt that this chief.
Breached his trust to the community no doubt there are a tremendous amount -- political overtones in this case but it appears that he.
Ignored the vote threshold of probable cause he ignored his investigators he.
In how this city manager know that while I think.
He's not a lawyer he's not law enforcement he has no experience or that their civilian he's making a political judgment gee I think there's probable cause he -- know that.
We can't assume that every judgment he made was political there's a concept of -- -- -- awkward or you have a young man -- killed.
And of another person and you didn't have a weapon and truthfully being unarmed right there of itself is more than probable cause and an -- should have been affected.
But I don't know -- -- -- -- other things speaks for itself but David walk on Norton Bonaparte.
Testified during a trial and he was forced to admit that he's the one who screwed up.
Of the 911.
He should've fired himself he.
Actually should -- by that there was actual proof of something that was done wrong.
There was no -- even in light of someone being shot their trade on Martin being killed.
And no -- had -- all the facts of the incident that played out at that time we really have to go back to the political.
Make -- of what happened since this incident in February of 2012.
Without a doubt there was politics.
We now -- -- the track we now have facts we have FOIA requests we have email records for example -- ordered him returned to -- alternate.
I I'm I'm concerned.
That very low standard like probable cause.
Was no doubt merit when there was a young men that Rumsfeld and he emphatically accepted -- self defense argument despite pole of his investigators saying -- -- -- should be taken place well.
They -- do you -- coming the -- casual tone of the -- that -- no time prosecutors Michael how do you overcome the fact that.
Even local prosecutors.
Thought there should be no charges here you have a protocol to follow you let justice and courts mete out guilt.
And you exonerate somebody who self defended himself.
But on the streets you have a young man without a weapon who has a handful of -- and is dead.
That's probable cause and it's inappropriate for police chief not to -- aside of course and look if you're looking at domestic violence cases.
If a woman has a -- and is a gentleman there the -- to rest and let the courts -- like say here's a concert.
Action that plays out in this case is another case in Florida Trevor dual.
69 year old black man -- a 41 year old white man.
Uses Florida's stand your ground law he's not -- -- -- waits for the police calls is attorneys he's back at work on Monday.
The similarities in this case is that Trevor Dooley was underneath the 41 year old man was holed -- -- choke in him.
He prodded him with a gun and then you shot -- similarities in this case.
Different -- Wi-Fi and dynamic -- and -- police -- to decide it's for the courts to decide.
And that's what happened he delayed justice by the afforded it heard of time I don't trust my -- kind of.
Arguing against yourself if you're -- that it's for the courts because a politician got involved here.
Norton Bonaparte thanks very much job Michael and David good to see you -- at Citigroup through this again facts.
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