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And experts take on what's gone on in the courtroom thus far this morning are -- dollars a former prosecutor joining us now.
Criminal defense attorney and a Fox News legal analyst as well Fred TC is also former federal prosecutor and also joining us Susan Constantine.
A jury consultants.
I've heard a little bit here in the studio as we've been watching that the summations from.
Fred and Arthur so Susan I want to go to you first this is an all female jury.
All right we we don't have Susan just yet so we'll get -- -- in a minute Arthur your take on on the what we have heard so far from Mark O'Meara.
So as great as the defense was in my opinion and putting -- case in.
And knocking the defense's case out during direct examination and cross examination that is much -- like give them for that.
I believe you can mr.
O'Malley everyone's got a different style and you have to be yourself.
When she gave election to a law school class or university class he didn't -- advocates see he didn't give a passionate.
Arguments as to why his client.
Should be found not guilty beyond -- because there's no there's tons of reasonable doubt he -- like.
Well whatever this happened what no -- that's that's not my style.
He's got me worked he knows those -- he's been with them in that room for three weeks so it but it was not what I think.
The world was expecting when they want when they woke up this morning watching his closing argument but.
But Fred as you know -- is a fiery New York attorney does that play well in -- courtroom in Sanford Florida well he's a fiery New York attorney.
-- you know your job is to be an advocate if you wanna be a law school professor.
Go be a law school professor.
When you tell the jury about reasonable doubt you don't sit there and read from the jury instruction.
Q tell the ladies and -- the jury there is no evidence in this case to meet the standard of reasonable doubt let me explain to a -- -- days.
There's days you could -- what doesn't show -- I mean.
Again these are all stylistic things and yes he's there and and we're watching from -- -- -- 11100 nautical miles away but at the end.
In the day your job is to -- the team and you talk about what doesn't come as he showed us.
I've got a black magic marker in a big white piece of paper and I -- -- written every single one of them down and at the end that was said they spell reasonable.
-- -- have been my team and I was driven home.
So you both seem to think that the the final presentation by the defense was lacking let's go to Susan Constantine.
The jury consultant she has been in the courtroom through much of this trial Susan.
How is how did these closing arguments plate with the juror.
Well you know what Mark O'Meara he was slow steady and methodical Holloway through.
But it very beginning you know he is touting as a vocal tone with a little bit while.
Hard to understand sometimes -- watching the jury I thought that they felt the same YA.
Most of that more earth somewhat deflated I felt -- looking at their facial expression.
That their face is there kind of more melting off you know that this jerk but he is taking over there's only one juror who with.
But for the most part every one was found laid back heads tilted analysts think position but you could tell that they're ready to go and it.
Liberation they've already made -- -- they're not all -- -- made up their minds -- you think so well it's an all female jury and I just wondered if if you take a different approach.
With an all female jury than you might with with some metal.
Well and that's very Terrell has always look -- yesterday with a prosecution at that they orient -- literally yelled and screamed that.
Not so good he now but I think that the very beginning when Mark O'Meara started -- He was in his demeanor was very -- he was very likable -- approachable very conversational.
And I do think that they attempt to connect with -- jury but the problem being here if that's not really an affiliate probably sit there tired.
You can CN their faces and you -- their faith is our blonde they're tired.
They're ready to start deliberations and start to move on.
Yet they -- that war.
I have a job to deal read it back to you on as we talk a little bit about the -- and the closing argument by the defense they took all three hours.
Talk to us a little bit about lane.
-- contents clean look at the defense but also about the prosecution -- -- gonna come back in or they -- take the full time did they take just a few moments what do they do get.
I am a firm believer and I live by the theory that less is more.
You pick your -- you drive home and you make few important points -- interesting I read someplace the other day.
Did people's attention span is actually about six minutes now -- -- -- a six minute closing in this case now.
But I I found it -- she was -- but I found a marriage closing to be rambling -- -- you have to pick -- -- got the hammer home his only has to do.
Is get really one point -- reasonable doubt picked out one and really drive it home.
But that was my next week at Kansas short so we can keep this segment -- -- exact guys cry cry about it not that I'm not exactly.
Living our our viewer -- that aren't there -- your thoughts on that as well -- that.
-- -- I've never in all my -- they've never summed up from more than an hour maybe hour and five minutes and I've been in trials that have much more tedious and complicated from a fact -- State -- point of view that this.
I do agree with Fred I think the reality is excessive but it's been successful.
Everyone has a different style that you get an acquittal in five minutes and Fred I was -- through being totally equal to.
Can be a little bit more.
Okay yeah well I -- don't during the wait a little bits.
-- case is easier nodding your -- season inside the courtroom -- did you see what is it think about feed the props that -- them and using that word -- -- gimmicks.
It the -- to cement the -- on board the cut out -- that seem to be effective big pack add any value.
Yes anytime it's 61% of our jurors -- this well so the more you can connect with -- visual images.
Think par Apple's statement it three -- and Casey Anthony trial all those visual images.
That Jose Baez presented that very and -- Was -- you know cleaning a visual imprint in their minds.
And then when they were showing those visuals that jury started to perk not they worked so bored so team his voice inflection when he came after break.
He was -- little more fired up and he was -- well -- not so quiet and I.
It's like he's starting -- -- a starting -- in the Jerry's Jerry Fred originally the state of Florida took a look at this case.
And while it wasn't actually the state it was the -- took a look at this case decided that under the stand your ground law.
Jordan Zimmermann should not be charged and it was only after some of the hullabaloo that that resulted from -- and some of the protests and so forth.
That the state stepped in and -- -- we got to prosecute this guy I just wonder if you know based on the arguments you've heard.
Which approach do you think was the correct one well it's interesting John the ice is all the time -- -- your line prosecutor your boss -- prosecute a case you don't prosecute a case brought him what you saw here.
Was is that the state the prosecution in the State's case they did best they could.
But what they had to work with and quite frankly it really wasn't enough and that's why originally the decision was made.
Not to prosecute the guy and this is the manifestation this is a lot -- conclusion of that.
I mean Arthur you know I've seen in the photographs of the back of of Zimmerman had someone did that.
To the back of my head I'd be in a world of pain and at the prosecution is trying to say -- didn't even need stitches.
All I think both sides in the best of what they had and a trial is it is the quest for the truth.
And we have decided in this country to put that burden on the government that they have the highest standard they have the they have to put.
All the evidence -- -- that meet the highest standard of beyond a reasonable doubt.
Here I just don't think the prosecutors.
Had what it took.
Under that now.
Now -- Florida law no duty -- -- treat when you're out in the open.
Area unlike new York -- New York Georgia -- had a duty to try to be best to get away from there.
That's not the case in Florida so I just don't think they have enough for six women to say yes.
I mean there's no way I can see them come about from -- murdered two possibly of manslaughter that would be my opinion that what we.
Talk compromise verdict is Susan we've talked about -- -- defense attorneys and even the prosecutors and presentation in the courtroom and how they're being.
Received and perceived by the jury.
What about George Zimmerman himself.
Well you know when you look at it until March I've always said from the very beginning he just looks like he's -- dated to me -- -- -- long I closer is darkening around inside.
Sadness -- this now.
I depleted body language you know that is says volumes but I don't believe that the jury is gonna look at Hammond finds can -- or.
What I call duping -- that sarcasm or air against I don't CNN Jordan -- and he doesn't portray that.
I'm so I'm sure that the jury is feeling the same.
-- well our our esteemed counselors were telling us you know as -- -- watching the trial under way that they would have.
-- had he had they had he been their client they would have had and sitting up and not slouching so much because.
You know that the center of this is a teenage boy who lost his life and they feel like you know just his body language.
Is sort of suggesting that he doesn't care.
Well that does it also -- it out keep in mind that he's a shorter guy -- slouching back makes it a little bit smaller.
I think that's a girl who did it hit many good points that -- -- -- guy Hussein entered.
I'm putting that aside I don't think he looks -- Mason looked disinterested I I.
And again jurors perceive things based on who they are no life experiences and yes some jurors made -- read in exactly the way.
He's talking about but I love you always worry about some juror reading him as being -- it as being.
I'm -- and that's what I worry about -- one jury always worry about like the idea of telling it play it looks small -- And if you were there are -- -- guys on equal ground here.
Visit -- viewers ages joining us yet said Fred sit up guy gets you ready to go.
As this afternoon eastern time -- a play a little bit of sound from what we heard over the last few hours so we get an idea what the prosecution's gonna come back and talk about.
Here's what it Mark O'Meara said about George Zimmerman and the description of him as a wanna be -- take a listen -- this.
There's -- aren't you missed it will all you want.
George -- -- cop.
Calls to foreign forces in the past.
Just had some seething anger built up.
-- -- -- -- it really.
Don't prove it it just doesn't exist and don't connect those dots of not being connected to you beyond a reasonable doubt busted.
Police set ourselves up pretty good because now we're gonna hear from the prosecution before we get back to Fred -- Arthur.
And season and the court is back in session after that ten minute recess now the prosecution has its chance to come back.
And talk a little bit about what the defense presented to the jury.
So as you can see in the court right now.
Just waiting for the prosecution to kind of get itself together and if I if I could -- real quick.
-- and just hearing silence right now are there what do you think the prosecution is gonna come back and stated that type that description.
They got to be the guy could not be tight and strong and just highlight.
There which draw the strongest points the point that they want to drive home.
We know the jurors attire we know these -- ST we know they're losing that their attentions -- attention span is waiting so he just got to come out and just say.
He was a wannabe cop he should've stayed in his truck he know what the -- what he's.
Need to leave the that the truck intelligent edges of the number one -- told him not to do what.
Repeatedly should anyone be that she knew better and he went out there because of him he had this altercation and they always dancing for -- -- location.
Put the lord's side look at the moral values had he not done this -- Bob Benjamin what would be here today find him guilty hold -- responsible for that young man not being here.
And as -- supposed to the description again by the defense and their three hour closing arguments.
That trade on -- -- in their words was the one that made the choice to be violence.
That's how they described this young man -- and now again.
-- here's the judge the judge is back -- Nelson back.
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