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-- pastor John Gunn says protesters should not desecrate trade bonds memory with violence.
He's also part of a new save our sons initiative pastor guns joins us now -- is a real honor to have you here.
You've heard all the concern and apprehension that if this verdict were to go.
One way or the other you know that -- that one of the sides who doesn't like the verdict could erupt into -- even violence.
Should we be -- concerned and afraid that people would have that kind of reaction.
To what is really a system that we all have agreed as citizens as part of our social contract.
To accept a jury verdict.
I I think honestly and at first of all thank you governor for having beyond I think that it is imperative.
That we do understand that yes they -- fear and apprehension.
-- persons there was a segment of -- work country.
That is looking for a reason to tune to respond negatively -- -- -- violently.
And I think that as a country we have to come together and raise the discussion and raised the topic that that -- what ever the verdict is.
We must accept the verdict as painful as it may be for one family or another.
Ultimately for us to respond negatively would actually desecrate the memory of -- by -- But would also disrespect.
The system that we all need to work for all -- -- to be healthy function though.
And ultimately happy as a nation.
You know I think you you said it very beautifully and that that is it would be a desecration.
Of trade -- life if there was a reaction.
You know should the verdict turn out to be acquittal.
But it would also be a desecration of the system to be angry should George -- be found guilty because that's what our system supposed to do.
What advice what are you saying to your own congregation because I think that in the midst of all this we've had so many legal arguments thrown back and forth.
On here -- that there's a spiritual leader what do you say -- your church family what would you say in the pulpit tomorrow.
Well I I think the first thing is that I want to remind my congregation as I think every congregation.
That we must trust the system as difficult as that may be.
For African Americans as challenging as that may be.
For any segment of our country we must trust the system the system doesn't always work and how -- favor as we would say.
But at the end of the day if we're going to be persons of faith.
We must operate from the spirit of forgiveness reconciliation.
Because in the end.
Labs are going to be effective and affected and we must protect the labs that are yet to be born and we must protect the sanctity.
And that and honestly we must protect.
-- we are as a people as a nation.
We must operate from a posture of forgiveness and restoration.
There will be some who regardless of the verdict will probably want to -- Have some form of protest.
You think it's appropriate to have a protest of a verdict as long as it doesn't lead -- to some violent rage.
Honestly I think every person needs to be given an opportunity.
To bid if you will put in a healthy way.
Ups dot governor my -- -- is that we have a national conversation.
As first of all men black men white men Latinos Koreans does that -- men.
-- a ball lifestyle I think we need to put a group of men and -- -- And start having a conversation.
About what does it mean to be a man in America in the 21 century.
We have to begin to deal with us as you know.
We have to deal with why we still have this anger -- we aren't even dealing with the race in the 21 century.
We've got to raise the conversation.
To a high a level we have to understand that -- seventeen Gil young man with what was murdered.
The jury comes back with the with the verdict.
His life is gone but also another man's life is is going to be affected -- -- we've created a system.
That encourages certain behavior so we have to radically reconstruct our system and that begins with us honestly admitting that we have some challenges as a nation.
And that we have to begin to deal with those challenges so ultimately my children and your children and -- grandchildren have a healthier future.
Pastor John guns out.
What you just said but for the words of leadership and I appreciate it very much god bless you and thank you very much for joining us tonight.
Thank you governor for having me we'll.
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