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About how vulnerable we all are to a major cyber attack comes in the form of a book called gridlock.
Which tells -- story of a terror plot to bring down power networks that we rely on from.
From everything from clean water to to street lights and while the book is fiction it portrays a scenario that's alarmingly realistic.
And the author this book makes it all the more interesting Byron Dorgan is the former US senator from North Dakota and the author.
I'm gridlock senator nice -- back on the program.
Thanks good to be with just so often times to some -- politics especially if they're from a place like North Dakota maybe they go someplace sunny right a little memoir to relax a little bit why did you decide to write a book and why did decide to write fiction.
-- this my fourth book and this is a novelist fiction but it's also -- very real threat to our country.
David Egbert an act you have co authored the book and this is about cyber -- you know a former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said the next Pearl Harbor.
May very likely be a cyber terror attack and just think as hot as it is today here in the East Coast.
Well what if someone were able to adjust the click.
Shutdown the electric power system and our country.
Ten years ago that happened in Ohio because of a mistake in a small exchange area it on the telephone -- -- electric system and 55 million people lost their power.
There's great concern now about cyber terrorists being able to shut down some essential services in this country.
You know the expression truth is stranger than fiction.
Right and it's interesting that you chose this form to talk about this topic especially since you've been on the inside if you well.
The beltway you've -- things and -- most people have not so how does that expression truth is stranger than fiction.
Processing the National Science Foundation seven years ago did a study about all this and then it was classified so wasn't released until just recently seven years later.
And they indicator that there are some very serious threats to for example our electric power system.
And we could see cyber terrorists to shut down our power system for a day a week.
Month or even months that would bring our country's economy to its knees and threaten the lives of people and so on so.
This you know that the that the purpose of writing a book like this.
Is to entertain but it's also situation to say we need to be very careful I might just tell -- one short story here.
Ram -- the world's largest oil company in Saudi Arabia.
About ten months ago discovered that a cyber terror attack against 35000.
Of their computers.
Annihilated all the data on those computers and left in its place.
An image of a burning American flag.
On all those monitors.
Well our country said experts and European countries had experts immediately in Saudi able to figure out what on earth happened here and how could it have happened.
These cyber terror attacks can be devastating.
To a country.
They're devastating to financial institutions but.
The more important to their their guard Department of Defense more part of this central services -- every day power Warren.
Transportation and so on.
What is the solution and and do you think that your colleagues that are still on Capitol Hill do you think they realize -- a priority -- Well the solution is to continue to make more investments in a more robust and electric power grid system you know we have 200000 miles of transmission in this country.
We've got 3500 power producers we've got tens of thousands of transformers -- step up and step down the power.
Most of them forty years old that were made overseas.
What we need to be aware of the threat.
And then we -- -- -- have the robust investment necessary.
To build a better transmission of better grid system to resist the threats.
So what's next -- senator Jim followed both -- in the works is it's gonna be a movie -- -- -- -- a news anchor perhaps a star and that John is volunteering.
As he always -- at what's next for you.
Well I don't know but we've got a character in this book that you could play and we'll let -- is after.
-- border -- a journalist Ashley Borden injection drives a pickup truck but you could play that role in the movie.
And I my has been has its inaugural pick -- truck that I drive well -- -- I don't know I think there might be a connection here our senior producer read the book he says.
It's a good thriller and the fictional scenario it's been an -- -- realistic sign next in line for the copy senator.
Great to have you on the program we look forward to having you back in we'll talk we'll talk about media since the deal there actually be -- now.
Already hundreds find somebody to fund the movie that's from your -- I next project picture -- about it.
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