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A less than 48 hours removed from the moment when the not guilty verdict was handed down in the George Zimmerman murder trial tonight over the course of the next sixty minutes.
-- come -- you live with complete coverage on this controversial conclusion to one of the most talked about legal cases in recent history.
Get a kick things off I'm joined right here in New York studios by two members of the Zimmerman defense team.
Attorney Mark O'Meara and Don west what we're a program think imagery regulations -- Morgan -- thank you very much a knock knock jokes.
Not tonight I'm just getting and you've probably got a shot.
Are you surprised.
How big this all got.
Actually I thought it was big to begin with -- there was going to slowdown particularly when the evidence started coming out because you first and then the second said look guys -- -- -- Sit back you don't by the editor Chris I don't know yet -- waited -- we have all the evidence and I thought that would sort of tend to swell a tide of bring it back.
But it never did and part of that was because it went across his -- some of the evidence in the discovery and it just kept it at this fever pitch wait too long you know I agree -- -- to get to that in a minute.
What went -- what do you think -- this case you know.
The evidence out -- -- weren't -- factors in other words.
Just the you -- like -- I think three things really came into play for me the justification the law.
Well the eyewitness and I would say even though they weren't necessary the injuries in what was the most important evidence in the case.
The eyewitness of course.
Completely corroborated what George Zimmerman said and also match the ballistics match the medical Examiner's testimony not.
Doctor valves but rather doctor Vincent -- right -- all matched up.
Right one of the things you in closing arguments -- -- he did a really good job of pointing out to the jury.
This is not the same as every -- life.
For those that maybe didn't hear explained that.
The frustration that I have with juries is that it defaults to what we all do we all defaulted this.
Make a decision every moment of every day because you have to and that's sort of a very quick decision making process the criminal standard so much higher than that.
But beyond a reasonable doubts and we never use in our daily life even getting married to a movie you know get a new job it's always compromising back and forth.
The decision to convict somebody has got to be one which is beyond what he would ever used to and my fear as I said to the jury.
Is that they will start to -- conducted in normal decision making processes that help that -- -- criminal defendant.
Let me go to the justification of the use of force these were the jury instructions -- think this was very key in making -- decision.
And it -- at -- is an issue in this case is whether or not George Zimmerman in fact acted in self defense.
It is a defense.
To a crime of second degree murder or the lesser included offense of manslaughter if the depth -- -- Bob Morton resulted from the justifiable use a deadly force deadly force means.
Force likely to cause -- -- great bodily harm a person is justified in using deadly force if he reasonably believe such such forces necessary.
To prevent imminent death or great bodily harm if George Zimmerman was not engaged in an -- -- lawful activity and was attacked and any place where -- a right to be.
He had no duty to retreat had the right to stand his ground meet force with force including deadly force.
If -- reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself for another quarter prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
-- that explain that to our audience because that's the law.
Here the most critical words if you reasonably believe that your about to suffer great bodily injury.
You can react with deadly force we all have that right.
Stand your ground lost.
Doesn't matter every self defense case allows you to react to great bodily injury with deadly force.
To explain what Georgia did it was George suffered 45 seconds of being attacked because we know it was him screaming.
Everyone knows who is his screaming now.
And he was getting battered because we see the injuries and he reacted to those injuries at a point where you had to just like -- extend its -- said.
He had no other alternatives he'd already tried to scream to stop but he already asked for help from the witness and it didn't help he had no other choice let's go over the irregularities in the case -- For example the withholding of evidence which.
Your partner mentioned explained that -- meant to you a moment ago I said what's the most important thing evidence as opposed to an appeal to emotion.
Let's look at the real evidence and it was like pulling teeth to get the real evidence the exculpatory evidence this information that.
That is the the foundation.
Of the way the criminal justice system is supposed to work says.
That the defense is entitled to all exculpatory evidence.
And we fought month after month after month.
Just to get.
What should have been given.
Without the hundreds of hours that it took so that was -- that's where this started and unfortunately -- continued.
Until the very day of the trial started when you think Angela -- -- firing the IT person.
That expose that's.
I think that's certainly the ways -- analysts -- business that thinks that soon in the wishing him with trial and the ways I guess attorneys prosecutors to.
Doubt it could have over discovery like Don talked about so I think.
You know that's just in her stripes but I think it's despicable.
When somebody comes in the forefront and exposes an unethical behavior.
That they didn't get fired even though they have a four month old child special prosecutor no grand jury irregular.
Very well they don't have to apparently military but -- case like this with the type of focus this hat and realizing that you already had a grand jury in place.
Why not use eighteen people from the community to make a decision -- this -- in power with why should you command.
From -- from an out of area county and come down -- make a decision after praying with the fan when he.
And not let eighteen citizens and -- -- -- and make the decision are ready to make.
What about evidence that you wanted to use but we're not allowed to use what is that evidence what we looked at this case and how aggressive we would get with our defense based on how the prosecution was handling their case.
And what we wanted to do would be there once were making a decision that's why we fought so hard to get in the toxicology results because we should've had that.
Then we make a decision tactical decision whether or not a consent we decided not to because it wasn't that significance we definitely should have had that same right.
To look at -- -- cellphone and say this is a guy who knows how to fight.
Because he talked about getting now to now that was the position we could do they think and that you possibly knows you can win a fight.
The judge should definitely have let us use that information that -- crucial to me.
-- was it turns out we didn't Egypt but I think that's have been -- decision and a I would agree with you any other evidence on the you would have -- tool brought in.
I think that's the most powerful evidence that was kept out.
And that in and of itself I think would have helped equalize this notion in the jury instructions the physical abilities and capabilities of the individuals involved.
The state made great pains took great pains to offer evidence of tourism -- suppose -- -- -- we offered the gym to gym teacher if you will.
I think we had the same right.
To show -- on Martin's knowledge and experience and physical contact what about when they go for second degree.
The star losing the case every commentators even recognizing their losing the case.
Now -- lower it to manslaughter or maybe third degree murder child abuse says the foundation.
That the is that good for our system of justice well manslaughter is a on alternative should have been given because that's just what -- -- unnecessary lesser included.
I did not like -- -- -- behavior to wait until literally the eleventh hour and fifty ninth minute to try and sneak in and the third degree murder by child abuse which they planned for months because you don't walk into court with fifteen cases cited -- ready to go.
The day that you -- jury instructions -- who planned it.
How hard was it waiting for the jury to come back -- -- almost sixteen -- how hard is that.
I it's the worst time of my life and -- I liken it to this for those people who don't don't -- -- work.
It's like waiting outside of surgery room why you have a family member in surgery you can't do anything New York helpless you just have to wait.
Every time the door knocks if something happens to jump.
Which is just have to sit and wait.
Patient when I was on the war with -- hours because let's all go home again it was 600 day I would come back I wanna ask.
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