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One of the six female jurors responsible for -- George -- of second degree murder now speaking out about that trial the court ordering the jury to remain anonymous but.
The woman known as -- 37.
Say she believes immigrant story.
Quote I have no doubt that George feared for his life in this situation he was at -- time I think both were responsible for the situation they've gotten themselves into.
I think they both could have walked away.
George Simmons brother Roberts it.
Is with me now -- -- -- good morning view -- and think we first met three months ago I believe right here in the studio here in New York in your parents told Barbara Walters last night.
That say they haven't talked to their son.
They haven't seen their son since the verdict late on -- He was getting very emotional there at the and not what we saw on camera but later.
But we do have concerns and always have of having our phones tapped.
Having our -- you know listen to -- the administration or whomever because George is now as we know continually the subject of ongoing investigation.
So a lot of the things that we do our.
Connecting in person that's how we've managed to stay hidden for so long it's kind of old school but it works have you seen him.
-- I've been in New York I have got to have you spoken to him I I was on the front of my sister when he called my sister and communicated that way you know back and forth clicking back and forth on on the other line but I have not spoken to him directly for the same reason would you describe your brother is in hiding.
Oh yes yes I mean I texted him but not to actually make phone calls like that is is it we're back to what we were doing in in march of 2012.
Because it's right in everybody's mind right now what what did he tell you after the verdict came down Saturday night what was his feeling more risk is -- -- -- again he was on the phone with with -- her little sister and he was not really yet it appeared able to process everything that have happened.
The freedom is a very munition to him he's been.
Confinement just identical bracelet but you know psychologically and emotionally confined to being in that courtroom every day seeing people try to put him in.
Prison for the rest of his life so when that's all gone in Europe in essence a free man.
And they cut that.
Ankle bracelet off of your ankle and the judge tells you have no -- business before the court that's in that and senior here.
Reality changes so it's it's very jarring juror number B 37.
And I just -- -- -- the mistake your brother may was getting out of the car.
But anything that observation.
I'm not sure if that's what she said I think she said that.
Both were responsible you know and I do understand that she said both -- both we're both had a hand in and really the responsibility of what happened she also said the mistake she believes he made was getting out of the car that night I just wanted to get your reaction -- I mean that's that's.
That's her opinion and that's definitely.
I'm glad that she did not equate that into a murder -- manslaughter you know I've seen the rest of the things that she said I think the most important thing in most telling thing that she said is that.
This is not a case about race and that race was not a factor in this case would you think when she said both could have walked away.
Almost suggesting that it could have been avoided entirely.
Yeah I mean that again that's her interpretation and if you really.
Believe that I mean they did their job they found that.
Does the facts of the case spoke for themselves as to his liability criminally if he acted in some kind of illegal way.
And probably that's on and on untrue statement that both could have somehow walked away now there is no evidence that George -- -- -- on Martin that was presented there's there's a phone witness who she also said she did not find very credible.
So but for this non credible witness there is no nothing to suggest in the evidence that George ever confront entry -- in fact there's a lot of evidence to suggest.
That George was confronted by -- dream on including that non credible witness who said the trip on initiated the conversation with George.
I you know when we first spoke you said this was an improper charge I believe that was the phrase you -- and you thought your brother would be acquitted and walk away.
-- the end you're right -- the six jurors in Sanford Florida.
Now your brother may face a federal issue.
Do you think Eric Holder has -- case.
Against George amendment I think Eric -- is being pressured by some groups who were calling for initially.
Just an arrest and these -- groups keep moving around the goal post in an NAACP.
Rainbow push coalition with Jesse Jackson first and one in just a simple arrests and that's and then you know.
Have his fair day in court and whatever the verdict is well respected them when -- the verdict was coming.
They wanted they wanted him to be found guilty.
But the verdict isn't what they want it's another moving the goalposts again and calling on the Department of Justice to investigate him more and -- NEA has jumped on board.
Com I think it's.
I think it's more responsible.
I understand the Justice Department's responding to pressure but I think that the American people need a little bit of time to digest.
Those two words not guilty it doesn't mean nothing happened and I think most of the people who are upset with that outcome didn't actually pay attention to the trial.
But there's two other issues one deals with the prosecutor was asked to describe her brother in a word I will ask you about that in a moment also we spoke yesterday you wanted to offer a conciliatory note.
Two American I'll give that opportunity -- a moment okay expo as our interview continues here in a moment Robert is back.
On what he wants our America understand about this -- -- stay tuned for that back here now Georgia.
And Robertson and back with me now here in New York as we continue our discussion here morning again.
And slick for Corey -- the prosecutors she was asked to describe her brother one word.
And she said murderer.
Wildly inappropriate what did you think when you heard that wildly inappropriate and and is confusing the people who think that I mean George was acquitted by a -- I think it's insults the -- there's six women who made.
A legal determination based on law.
And the prosecution perspective I've never seen prosecutor -- so.
Of of our of our process is she saying that they made the wrong call you know I really don't know but I think that woman has made.
Quite a few outbursts over this case including two professor Dershowitz including -- Harvard Law School.
Including two mr.
-- -- the whistle blower in her office who was concerned that the defense is not getting discovery firing him in the way that she did.
Tom I would encourage her not to say anything else about this case do you think your brother did anything wrong.
It's hard to tell I think that everybody has a hand in their -- ultimately I think that there's a difference though between the word regretting.
And be feeling remorse for so I think that if you do what you believe is right at the time and again -- -- 120 you can always look back and think that.
There could have been a different outcome or would have been a different outcome if -- did one -- the way or the other but I know he feels tremendous remorse about the outcome and did you anticipate the reaction.
That we're now seeing even before the verdict was handed.
I did because again sometimes people don't really focus on evidence or what's coming out in testimony but they actually just pay attention to the final word not guilty in that.
Means nothing happened to some people on this is absolutely not true one more comment here what is your word of conciliation.
Or -- would be conciliatory toward the American people -- to our viewers today.
What was the message you when -- them.
I -- -- I think the jury that spoke out this kind of helping me out with a message that race did not have a part in this case we wanted to arrest we wanted to stay in court now the -- -- even speaking out and and saying the same thing that the defense and George's family has been saying.
For the better part of the year I think we need to take a step back really digest what happened.
Really understand that our process surgery over pierce is the finest in the world.
And that that's who made the determination in this case before we keep inflaming passions in listening to two people who might be exploiting some of -- passions and feelings.
Robert Zimmerman thank you for your time this morning thanks -- to appreciate it thank you.
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