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We're back -- -- our big story from last hour the Congressional Black Caucus holding a news conference.
In which it attacked the verdict in the George -- -- And announce that the CDC will need to do what it what is snacks in the wake of that not guilty verdict here is some what they had to say watch -- -- personally now what happens.
When our judicial system.
Is not -- Because.
I see young men open collar being sentenced.
Every single day.
Given all sorts of agreements that they should not go to trial.
We see what has happened.
It to trade -- -- and did how did judicial system what's stacked against him.
I was at the NAACP in I do know that the air pollution it and that have overcome what a year and a half ago -- -- -- to investigate.
And -- live can edit the but then the main.
The situation is that.
We do know that missed the -- and civil rights have been -- We do know that I don't think may have determine.
What they're gonna do.
But certainly we will be pushing pled down to do a thorough investigation.
When people -- C a young.
African American shot down.
And not guilty -- but I female but all -- in my district.
-- -- in my history.
The shoot out won -- -- and -- -- -- years.
It is clip that the system is broken.
She says that the system is.
Let's have a a discussion about this.
Really important discussion going on here right now -- Jason Riley from the Wall Street Journal.
And -- these comments -- -- both are Fox News contributors Jason wanna start with you had a very powerful piece.
In the Wall Street Journal that I think will.
As well and in -- you say that the left wants to blame black criminality.
I'm racial animus which clearly we just heard from both of these women.
And the system but you say the black that blacks have long been part.
Of running that system and you blame them in part.
That's right I I think that if the black leadership from President Obama on down wants to play a construct a brawl here.
And this is what I think is driving a lot of these protests going on around the country.
This -- perception that.
Of blackmail the perception of blackmail criminality.
Played a role in this case and we have no evidence from the case itself that it did but if you are of the opinion that it did.
That -- -- on Martin's race or how it was -- played summerall.
Then the black community could address what is driving those perceptions of black criminality and what is driving and -- hard statistical data.
That shows the blacks commit a staggeringly.
Disproportionate number of crimes in this country for instance blacks about 13% of population you're responsible for around half.
Of all murders and so that is what needs to drop if we want to change.
Of black criminality we need to change the behavior.
Of the young black men -- -- responsible.
For this crime and that requires having an honest discussion within the the black community between black leaders and parents and children.
And so forth and being honest about making behavioral changes that will there forge change perceptions.
Yeah I -- what what Jason is is has gotten that in this piece -- ten.
Is that if if black leaders hope to change that perception.
And everyone agrees that what happened -- -- -- Was a tragedy -- the death of this young man is something that every one.
-- but when you're if you're gonna start time at the larger issues and these women -- arguing that the larger issue is that racism is still rampant in this country.
That he was stereotyped and Jason argues that that.
Leaders need to look into why that would be an answer that question a much more realistic why is starting at the top what do you think.
Well -- -- I'm listening to both of you keep referring to black criminality -- of course there was no black criminality in this in this incidentally the person who did the killing was struck Zimmerman.
Yvonne -- did not commit any crime or even do anything that can be construed as a crime so I I think what I heard.
These members of congress talking about.
Was the what they see is a an -- -- -- or disproportionate or racist perhaps.
Wave that black men are treated buyer judicial system and that they're not getting a fair shake and not something that I.
I really have a hard time disagreeing with and I don't really know how anyone can disagree with that I don't I think that Jason raises some important issues in his column but.
I don't think that's what these members of congress are talking about they specifically brought up sentencing and look there is no question that Bachmann are sentenced.
Two longer sentences than white man -- the US sentencing commission found that 20% longer for the exact same crime.
I I think and I think that that those are the issues that need to be looked at around this was.
Did was went to George simmering get to.
Get off on this basically -- -- technically you stand -- ground but if the jury use that language -- -- is that language the jury instructions is that language.
Because he was an African air American man so we assume he must have been up -- -- -- Well this you know given that everyone from the prosecution on down.
-- race was not.
All role here and given that the the verdict was acquittal.
I mean there's a very high hurdle for the Justice Department now may be in the Congressional Black Caucus have some smoking gun tape that no one scene where.
George Zimmerman -- -- -- black man right before he pulled the trigger.
But barring that.
I think there's going to be a very high hurdle.
Four -- the Justice Department to clear in order for these charges if they bring them to go.
Anywhere but Kristin to the point that the criminal justice system is racist which is one of the conversations being discussed in wake of this verdict I mean I'm of the opinion the -- justices and -- roof flats the black crime rates it is not their prize.
And and that's the problem here with with the black leadership today.
Wanting to blame other people for the problems -- the black community.
And I think that the black community knicks need to take a hard luck.
At its own behavior again if you -- opinion.
That perception the black criminality.
Led to what happened to trip on -- I'm not arguing that that was the case but there are a lot of people out there who saying that is the case and if you hold that view.
Then there are ways to go forward and have an honest conversation about what drives the perception and -- -- not only -- by whites and governor Jesse Jackson's famous quote.
-- what I look behind me in a dark Alley and see white people.
I feel relieved and so these are not just perceptions coming from -- are also coming from law abiding blacks and they are based on black behavior and that's what we need to address.
Yeah it's it is a very interesting.
Conversation and -- and you know I understand your your point and and where your coming from.
And I I also understand Jason's point but I think if if there are larger implications to be -- in this case and I think that we all.
Have an understanding we understand attentions that surround this case and the passion and that the grief for this young man.
But if the larger lesson to be learned here does it included.
They is that the president brought up himself you know in speeches that he made early on -- -- a white America we're not a Black America where the United States of America he's spoken as early speeches as well.
About the importance of parenting.
In the black community the need for fathers in the black community.
Some of these things are RPMs that we we have not heard him.
You know continue to hammer home the very forcefully.
In this subsequent years of his presidency kitchen and then then I'd like to get -- That's -- up act I think the president actually talked about it quite a bit and I would give them credit -- he's not it's not really his job and I think that.
I don't know how many other presidents -- -- as much about that he in fact thought.
Kind of in trouble for doing it at -- I think sometimes -- African American community doesn't particularly.
Like it but you know I just I think that what's being as -- the argument that I think is -- -- but NAACP.
Which which is that it.
The 'cause it was a young black man because I guess there's this perception that we're supposed to accept that it was -- to think that he was a criminal or something -- -- I'm trying to suss out exactly what argument is here.
You know that that then people understand it more -- it that George -- should have been in fear for his life.
First of the other case of Marissa Alexander which was alluded to in the clip we have an African American woman -- denied using stand -- ground.
And is not allowed and the you know the jury what I would consider that as a defense when she was for.
Despite a warning shot against him.
No no I was saying that -- -- on -- -- criminal in this case they're saying I think what would Jesus referring to is the fact that if you X if you're saying.
Well is because of a perception that he must be you know -- actually don't know you haven't got anybody hearing that you have to Jason's saying.
So -- -- that we got 32 that I obviously made three hours but Jason you've had a lucky to have.
Last word -- well I I think like after the prosecution said race wasn't an issue here the family to -- Martin's family even said before the verdict.
That raised -- after so that helps -- make you believe that.
It's it is a result of the verdict that they are now looking at a different angle trying to -- -- George -- that's not our system.
Nevada athletic and I hate to cut Iraq and I apologize and I got a delay so I'm gonna take a quick -- thank you so much -- to -- -- -- we'll be right back.
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