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-- -- -- This is power play and I am Chris hello welcome -- Wednesday.
And senate Republicans lost a game of chicken yesterday.
As -- Capitulated -- guess is the word to demands from.
The administration and senate Democrats -- confirmations on -- slate of controversial nominees from President Obama in exchange for Harry Reid not deploying.
The nuclear option which we've talked about here before is win and the senate majority.
If they're of the same parties the president.
Can't with 51 votes and do the sixty vote threshold.
For certain things in the senate for fear of re doing that.
A group Republicans led by John McCain and others came up with a deal that said if the president would withdraw two nominees to the National Labor Relations Board and replace them with two different but like minded nominees.
The Republicans would confirm them and everybody else on this list of seven it was a big loss for Republicans.
And why and Hal and all of that is important yes yes yes but today what I want you to understand what is more important for you don't understand.
Is why do you hear.
Why does it actually matter to you Internet.
What the National Labor Relations Board is does and sets so.
Who could be better to talk to -- About that somebody who once led the National Labor Relations Board.
Peter -- is the former chairman of the NLRB.
Under president George W.
Thank you go on here so why do we care -- the NLRB is does and -- It's well it's -- very important agencies created in 1935.
A piece of legislation.
That gave workers the right to you know she's been enormously successful.
The kinds of strikes which we had prior to the -- is enormous strides and really brought down for a period of time major industries we really haven't had a strikes are almost a thing of the past.
The board is comprised of five persons generally whoever.
Controls the White House.
Names three the Republican's name the other two.
It can -- -- workers' right to organize it also prosecutors unfair labor practice issues.
-- -- unions provide employers.
And again this is very significant so it has a significant impact on everyday Americans if you think about it.
Major companies major industries are -- -- The retail stores Macy's costs goes to degree.
Home Depot two degree.
The the -- -- the manufacturers.
I mean unions are in a variety of different industries control variety of different histories.
And when there's a dispute between the union and the -- It very often goes to National Labor Relations Board when the union tries to get into -- tries to unionize them.
Very often it's contentious and again the National Labor Relations Board decides those issues.
The NL RBIs so -- has a judicial kind of function in deciding.
Those disputes -- reconciling the disputes when.
Labor and management differ.
Whether -- election is fairly called or or those kinds of things better dispute but also has an investigatory function right.
That there are lawyers that work for the NLRB that are out it in -- in a prosecutorial capacity but who are out looking for cases in grievances right.
Well in fact IP.
There is a General Counsel side and -- -- -- -- not the General Counsel side has independent on review will prosecute.
So the jet when you involves a charger and employers false charge of more often -- union claiming employer is guilty of an unfair labor.
Practice it's investigated by the General Counsel and -- just general council decides whether it's gonna bring it.
-- -- -- And a -- complaint is -- and decision is issued it goes the National Labor Relations Board it's roughly 60% of charges never resulted.
Complaint and when a complaint is filed 93%.
Crews are settled so very small percentage of cases ultimately -- For decision for the nationally relations.
Now the president has withdrawn to.
That he said -- recess appointments.
That -- who appellate court in here in the District of Columbia said that sense and it wasn't recess -- -- recess appointments they invalidated those picks.
The board was about to defunct itself on the 27 of August the last remaining that the current chairman the last remaining.
Legitimately selected and and approved.
Member of the board his term was about to expire this.
By Republicans in the senate to green light these two nominees.
Is gonna keep the board vital and from and I.
I'm no expert.
But certainly I see that the nominees are -- -- his General Counsel for a union.
These are not these two ideologically these are not ideologically different from the folks that did republicans' -- I just think about the.
-- did not at all what the big difference who it is and waited and waited Republicans drew the line.
Is that they were unwilling to confirm.
To recess appointments that -- recess.
In a manner inconsistent with the senate rules to Circuit Court said they were unlawful and unconstitutional.
It was unwilling to do that.
It was willing to confirm Mark -- Who is -- highly union synthetic.
Jim yeah chairman -- that board and the rules generally is at the board.
That the Democrats -- -- Democrats Republicans -- Republicans so the Republicans weren't giving any.
By saying that they would consider because they have -- -- to confirm.
They could still filibuster but the likelihood that won't need to -- -- -- and can't -- -- -- while.
I was skating camps name -- -- news chief counsel.
Two 22 chairman peers but again let me just throw him the support and understand what that what the Republicans were doing the Republicans would not filibustering.
The presence -- that.
The Republicans would really drawn tight line around.
The the president's efforts to pass it DC circuit -- judges didn't disagree with decisions.
And certain appointments to independent federal regulatory agencies -- independent the White House to these people.
What do recess appointments of the NLRB.
It's sure that it -- well I mean it looks like -- if you know it depends how you painted because number one Republicans got what they want with regard to -- to recess appointments now day number two.
The Democrats have been blocking.
Nominees to the board for almost a year if they wanted an all Democrat -- they didn't want any Republicans.
They only dropped so there will be two Republicans on the board there will be two Republicans on the board which is critically important.
Because Republicans more often than not right to sense.
They -- see facts and the law sometimes differently and saw.
And it also but equally important Avery did the -- the two Republicans will have control of a few -- Most of the panels will be controlled by the majority but -- be a percentage of the panels will be controlled.
Reviewer -- -- talking about.
Right to work.
And the last time anybody heard about the NLRB in a big way was when they told battling.
That they couldn't open a new plant in South Carolina because South Carolina was right to work state and -- was a unionized company.
And it's that you can't close a line in Washington without right to work and open -- line.
And right works at Carolina what do we expect to see from the NLRB on that and other big controversial issues for labor assuming.
As -- we should we should say.
That is that the chairman says that these nominees have not yet been confirmed they may be filibuster but the reporting in Washington today is that well.
Behind the scenes Republicans have given every assurance that these these nominees are -- -- yeah.
What I want -- -- or whatever meant to say here is that they didn't agree.
Not to filibuster but.
Everyone knows and they know and I'm sure that said you're entitled to your Democrats -- -- -- Republicans they've been doing after for the last two decades.
-- -- And right to work and leave him becoming just a bit a bit on that in fact what Boeing didn't close a plant in Washington State is simply opened the second production line in South Carolina.
And the acting General Counsel late Solomon brought this unprecedented complaint to try to close that second.
This is done this from that prosecutorial side that then is brought over to the NLRB for jurisdiction that's right.
And the case was not so.
Boeing's board of directors said we will never said what what happened is the union withdrew its charge Solomon withdrew his complaint -- you didn't have to do.
Except that he didn't want to be handed what the circuit courts would hand them.
It was just yeah plants and that's exactly right what we can expect out.
Nothing different than what we'll -- had before Nancy shippers as much as -- life here.
Is a union ideal ideologue she comes directly -- the AFL CIO.
She's gonna do what organized labor wants to do if she wants her job back when she goes -- vehicles -- And it can't is is the former chief count the chief counsel to the current chairman.
-- current chairman -- partisan union person.
So he's not going to be an independent source of.
Peter you we thank you for bringing your voice to us today thank cafeteria here for -- -- OK Internet we're gonna take a quick break but when we come back what is next for air -- and the -- as it relates to.
George -- the trailer on -- case stand your ground all of that stuff we have to smaller person occasions women who will be here to tell you what -- -- stick around.
We move forward together I want to assure you that the Department of Justice will continue to act in a manner that is consistent with the facts.
And the law we will not be afraid.
We are committed.
We are committed to doing everything possible to ensure that in every case.
In every circumstance.
And in every community justice must be done.
That -- attorney general Eric Holder at the Orange County convention center in Orlando Florida speaking to the NAACP.
And this is power play welcome back and -- the attorney general was promising there.
Was close to war is close to as we've heard from the administration yet a promise of what many African American activists have been calling for.
Justice for -- on.
And as we hear today from the Orlando sentinel that's just firmness of listening is -- of an email account for people to send tips.
Knowledge about mr.
Zimmerman perhaps whether or not he had racist tendencies you see the the makings of a potential civil rights case if not prosecution against mr.
Zimmerman -- time.
The administration's talking about how this case should be used to go against states that have.
Vigorous self defense laws one called stand -- ground which does not require somebody to retreat from -- intruders and they find themselves.
In an altercation left what about politics of all of this people who know.
-- Barbara I was she is from the Washington free Buchanan.
And she's making her debut appearance here unless -- by Ellison do you know.
In theory in theory -- let it.
Let's just sit there is no theory about this there's no I've come here and Julie were jet ski no she -- -- her.
Former communications director for Jon Corzine she about politics she know it and Julie.
Let's start with you the administration is doing sort of a two step here.
On the one hand you heard the attorney general you've heard other comments.
That are seeking to move the focus as it relates to the real outrage inside the black community over this.
To talk about senior -- laws gun control laws and things like that.
But we also it's also pretty clear that the Justice Department is going after Zimmerman to some degree what's the what's the play here.
I know I don't know my samples are getting a little feedback in my -- so if I sound weird that's why.
I I don't know what their play is I think we feel compelled to investigate look a jury.
Render their decision so released on on on the substance of whether he's guilty or innocent.
-- in the killing of -- -- the jury rendered its decision regardless of whether we agree with that decision or not.
The same -- laws they think is actually something the administration should take a look at -- -- of the -- so should congress and and so should the states that pass them because they think they've got a little too far.
With their intense and and results in important situations like we just had to -- -- regardless of whether you think -- -- was right or wrong.
And -- -- Graham was not necessarily that the substance of that trial but it's something that obviously is this come to the forefront as a result of the merger.
I think -- feels the need to to check it out with civil rights aspects of it you know.
Soliciting tips on whether George Zimmerman said something.
The racist to me is a little sketchy right I mean.
That's but that's happened that's kind of -- -- that -- that's one of the things the I was in the administration has.
And that is work for them in the -- -- in 2008 campaign stop the smears.
They had sort of the asking people bit if their neighbors were saying something untrue about the president's when he can help ought to send it to the White House.
This is something they've done it.
For rain I think where we're gonna see this sort of Newport is something that -- just that just -- -- -- little that I think you're gonna see a big focus on the senior ground lost Lisa -- quarter saying yesterday I think back.
Legitimate outcome for them that they Macy's credit -- going to look at a senior -- as well specifically you know title 46 that is dealt with -- -- How much how much is this is so you know it today.
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton talked -- NAACP.
They're probably not going to be cool like they're going to be they're going to be bringing big they want they're pounding the table because.
From their point of view this is that the standards the administration is is is sort of a twist in between a little bit here how.
What's your assessment of how they're playing it in terms.
Trying to keep the debates okay with this especially after the vocal African American base but also not freaking people out.
Ranking I think -- definitely -- -- -- on the time that you just mentioned I don't know how effective I'll be but I do think there.
Absolutely trying to sort of fuel -- that it's clear that their illness cases and it was sort of not.
Not a great outcome -- there are constant need to be dealt with but in terms of how they're gonna -- -- the senior ground I don't know if Theres.
I'm a specifically related animals here a lot of people with a -- Netherlands are anything good to actually.
Tell me about gun control why we always going to be talking about gun control I mean -- and I thought this was done.
Gun control well I don't think it's ever going to be done right you've got Michael Bloomberg pulling pouring millions of dollars he's rich campaign season he's got -- he's got a cast to do it is he he you know right.
For some of them -- violate -- line but -- He is a great thing is they're not afraid to use innings out of -- suspended but it -- gun control just because.
There's some people in the -- both sides style they didn't have.
The guts to do what I think vast amounts and percentage of Americans want them to do also like 95% or 90% -- -- them to do with with background checks doesn't mean that you shouldn't take another stat that it.
And so gun control is going to be an aspects of this and -- and it -- -- it -- -- it should be I will say.
And there's obviously no empirical evidence to back up -- I'm gonna say and and and so I'm gonna get crazy amounts of tweets and emails about -- but I I.
-- right now I'm.
-- my -- yeah well that is.
TPI you know what Internet -- -- -- -- you -- a market that is what I believe although I've gotten no evidence whatsoever to back this up if I don't locking down the street Chris for your walking down the street that night.
With a bag scandals I'm pretty sure that we both would be alive.
And the -- and it's six -- this was a racial joke about the -- not evidence to back it up but I do believe that's the case because of racial profiling was a factor in this and that's -- -- to look at it.
I -- I'm a big weird looking hillbilly.
Oh my dad I think that that's there there's some there's some mountain bias -- -- there are so I don't I don't know what would happen there but either of you two ladies I think it's safe wherever you go.
In in that regard Skittles or not.
-- Ellison the question for you.
As my take points out.
Do what does the federal government have to do with whether or not states -- stand your ground laws why does that and these if these are state laws what's what is the federal government have to do with that.
I don't I don't think they have an independent of the show and -- -- coming up my right into you know probably disagree on that but I'm standing.
But I think probably too big part of -- holder was sort advocating for guessing -- feel good tactics -- -- -- not.
-- -- was not part of the Zimmerman trying to -- sort of what he advocated for yesterday was absolutely feel good tactic and I don't ever really about making -- hasty generalization and I think what he did yesterday and sort of that.
The government's reaction right now it's -- terrible thing happened and we wanna kind of address it in the way we address it is to specifically -- with senior around it's not really their business doesn't need to be involved in this state -- and it's sort of a knee jerk reaction -- We weren't happy with the -- verdict there's not a lot we can do about it and so this is -- -- -- It is it -- an immediate calculation may be cynical but but it's not -- this is it that the federal government Julie may not.
What holder I guess is saying is that maybe this law is not constitutional -- world war that there is civil rights component.
And don't forget the federal federal laws supersede state laws all the time that's -- we the system is the set up the way it is whether states race people like it or not that's the way -- constitution's been written all along so way through the congress does have a role here if it chooses to exercise that -- I just don't think with the congress we have today with Alec.
Do what they're doing I don't think they're going to be taking -- -- the -- doesn't really get much you know I mean.
Nor are they going to decide are they going to take a decision on the Civil Rights Act and decide which -- -- -- right racist than my other bad breath that I probably is not coming up.
Might they might take as other comments for you -- you can go ahead you can you can check them yeah.
Log out and -- -- baby come on I think that that's Theriot did bring the Maria.
Julie you always bring the -- may -- you and Alison I don't think there -- he brought.
Thank you thank you thank you ladies.
What -- out what.
Back out Wyoming -- you know what's in the news about Wyoming today yes Liz Cheney etc.
we will ask about that.
Being -- house Republicans are doing today.
But house Republicans are doing today.
They're repealing or delaying part of the president's outlawed now they've done it before.
Hasn't come to much affect this one could be different.
Let's go right now let's not break let us -- -- over.
Oh no we are gonna take a break I was just -- we're gonna take a very quick break and we'll be right back.
Data reflects that there is not.
There is not.
Support for the proposition that.
Are not hiring full time employees because of the -- here.
Came from Jay Carney white house Press Secretary during -- reporters yesterday.
And this is power play and what.
You Press Secretary was saying was that he doesn't know that business is we can't know for sure that the reason that businesses have added so many part time workers is because of the president's health law.
Who knows who knows but the administration has decided to delay the implementation of requirements that companies.
With more than -- please provide health insurance deemed adequate by the Department of Health and Human Services for another year so why not you.
Well -- a little less.
Music congresswoman from the great state of Wyoming.
She says you should congressman welcome.
Thank you it's great to be here OK we'll see if that -- now the question is.
Republicans today today it's time for the individual mandate to be delayed for a year as well as -- -- -- win.
The employer mandate.
There's no reason if the president realizes.
That the business man tapes.
Is not ready to be implement it.
That the individual Man -- should also be kept in place.
You know it is the young people we're going to suffer most.
Under the individual mandate young people are going to be subsidizing.
In there Obama care.
Health delivery system.
And these -- the very people who are underemployed or unemployed and looking for jobs and dealing with high student -- -- It is important that for the sake -- young people in this country in particular.
That we delay the implementation of the individual romantic.
Here you need is we want to take this matter.
What's the point.
The poignant is that if the present and can take a law.
That he crafted.
That he got passed over the objections.
Of conservatives in this country and that half of America does not -- And he can take one slice of but the big business license say -- we're not gonna implement that.
But for the little guy and the individual we are going to push you onto Obama care.
Dad is actually taking the most vulnerable Americans.
And those with disabilities and those who are.
-- in areas that are economically disadvantaged and say we're gonna win posted on you.
So we want to -- the president that if he's going to treat big business in an advantage to weigh in the implementation of obamacare.
He should be looking at the low income and middle income Americans.
Okay now I would be remiss I did not ask you something you're not used to seeing and I don't think is game contentious.
Primary fight -- -- longtime Republican conservative senator from your state is gonna be tussling with Liz Cheney the daughter of vice president.
In it looks like in your state senate primary next year and do you have -- and -- I'm supporting senator Nancy for re election he -- -- -- Wyoming.
He was the mayor of -- when it was just -- -- boom town and he's turned it into one of America's greatest pounds.
And also we served together in the house and the senate might champions really earns his -- in Wyoming.
Not to mention putting in eighteen solid years.
In the US and it's -- -- solid supporter and friend of -- We noted.
Did you get -- you know her well she is Cynthia limits at large congresswoman from Wyoming we think you may have had a great day.
Thank you very much for having me on you bet OK on the hunt Jonathan -- is up next and now as we like to do every day we leave you with the word from.
Your friends and the attorney general I should note that this is I think three times in a row they've been praising the registration rights and we just need -- mark these moments once more and I got and I'm going to react.