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And -- -- -- alert our local station in Orlando Florida WOOFL.
Fox 35 just sat down for an exclusive interview.
-- an alternate juror in the George Zimmerman murder trial his apportion of that interview.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And I agree with me.
And was there any change in the evidence and the testimony that really came out -- you.
I think things -- good that I focused on when -- -- when like when I was -- we'll move on deliberation was the the non emergency phone call.
Did pick up on some things that are virtual strip tells.
Trevor I'm very well Martin's phone records her or her phone records but when the Republican.
The of course -- Intel is the friend that -- -- -- -- -- until right before the shooting on cellphone correct Pip -- And the year when recycle mere -- is the ones that heard noises which when you don't even know when help me fill a gap.
And it's a couple -- -- the eyewitnesses.
And I think but I think the one thing good that that stands out the most to lose his interest.
Pitched into the measures and what did you think neighbor John -- testimony talked about -- and -- style ground and pound.
Yeah I mean you know what I what I didn't I got from that was it was just emotions and -- -- You know whether it was -- pounder Eminem anyway you know.
They didn't that was relevant to me it was just emotions and in the fact that Ubisoft on -- -- revolves on the bottom.
I think those were more relevant features of his testimony.
Did you think -- Sentelle was credible.
I thank god that I did have some -- good to pick up some credible information from her marriage and I do think for criminal.
And -- -- -- think was on a 911 call.
Personally I can't tell you who was.
But from bill witnesses' testimonies.
And from the entries include food toward government I believe to be -- You believe that it was -- -- and so you would have put him not guilty career.
What did you think of the -- thirty set manager who spoke out did you see that interview.
Like I did -- have.
Not real surprised as anybody come -- that quickly and then talk about this.
I know that when I when I got done and released -- was asked about what I thought.
I'd I'd -- you know -- start and I know what to say.
And social surprised that she cannot which -- -- issued and it's not just not surprised that -- -- -- and that was her became but.
Just victims will be -- -- And what's your reaction to all the protest demonstrations and talks of a civil rights complaint now.
Yeah yeah I I just don't understand this -- right complain about I didn't see any evidence there that.
That and then in the courtroom.
Went I can verbally and there's some rights case from this.
The protest you know the people are going to be -- no matter what the -- was.
And Obama can do about that.
So and so -- -- peaceful and -- -- and you know we just to have.
This commons foreign investment Canada.
You know -- and there's not destruction not hatred not.
You know a lot of anger towards the the jurors.
And so when you heard the verdict what was kind to your mind and have it make you feel.
Well he wants in my mind was.
My profession was.
I thought there was an accurate -- I'm the next thing I want to in my mind was close it was -- how how hard another -- of the -- worked.
To reach that Bernard and you know -- that -- -- -- of him for.
And the looking at the evidence and doing it had to do to.
They're become of a river and what was your reaction when you can get you an alternate.
Just point it.
-- Fiona might have been an -- -- rural setting but I would like to have been in the room.
-- -- from five ladies and that changed -- -- to talk about it and did he couldn't talk about the whole time here we're we're together.
There was no great federal -- and then can get their thoughts and what did they see what would put -- I see.
You know two.
Compare and and deliberate and -- I had an opportunity.
A fox for thirty double -- that interview in its entirety tonight joining us now is fox 35 reporter Valerie boy who just did this interview a few moments ago.
And -- by -- also joining us is former prosecutor Doug burns and defense attorney Remi Spencer -- let me start with you -- good interview.
What else did you get first thought what -- I am really impressed.
With the way these -- the seriousness.
With which they approach this case.
So well -- that very very focused yeah well.
What I you know I gave me a better understanding of how they looked at all -- evidence in the test money you know.
Jerry 54 -- middle aged man he says -- three things that really stood out to him more of course but not emergency call adored the man made his injuries as well as -- testimony by Rachel Sentelle.
And he says that's because that call prove that -- on Martin was down by his father's house at that time.
And then -- had to go back up to where the shooting took place so that's why he believes -- Myanmar an attack George Zimmerman yeah.
And -- all the other jurors believe that too according to the the other -- of the spoke out.
Any other information they got out of the interview give us a little preview.
Maybe 37 said that George agreement should not have you know should have gone back to his car however 54 disagrees he says you know what.
He lived there he had a right to stage wherever he winds hit.
He says he was not profiling -- on Marin and you know number held the and prosecutors are trying -- Bennett veto and that sense of making him sound like a racist but 54 said no he was not -- get that at all yeah.
-- you know this is interest in -- -- because.
I and I said the law John good the eyewitness to this case.
The obviously the screams every every one of those jurors thought it was George -- which makes sense.
It does make sense because we know that the prosecution put on two witnesses that said it -- -- -- on Martin's voice.
But the defense put on his mother and brother -- they put on seven from the defense.
And some of those were from the State's case so it was a compelling argument that they made.
And that the -- got to hear the tape they got to hear what these witnesses were.
Offering their opinion on so it's not surprising that the jurors believed he was in -- Zimmerman is voice on that I'm I'm on call.
-- was clear here you're a prosecutor yes a lot I think prosecutorial abuse in this case irregularities they withheld evidence in this case for example.
What are your thoughts well my thoughts on number one that they probably would have been well served to maybe not chartered as high as they did OK they -- come in with some -- criminally negligent homicide which by the way -- would have brought in the fact that he followed him didn't identify himself didn't say that he was armed.
You know look it's easy to Monday Morning Quarterback but this -- -- -- defenses with murder -- why do that charge some them -- they came in at the last second they said.
Third degree felony child abuse felony murder well to wanna do that do -- W.
That -- exactly right I completely agree and I don't think it is unique to this case I think prosecutors across this country.
In cases that we're not watching on on the news every night -- charge as a matter of course and here we saw how it back.
-- you know it's also with the justification of the abuse -- deadly force is very clear in Florida.
And the team that law and also every Jordan nobody thought this was about race the trainer Bob Morton -- They said it wasn't about racing the prosecutor said it and now the civil rights.
On this too many discussions of different issues on the lawyer obviously not a sociologist -- professor the case was never about race -- -- and as you said it.
The -- said so now they're trying to make it about that it makes sense Ballard.
Well I talked to state attorney Angela Corey just a few days ago she says she never called towards amendment.
A racist and she also said she didn't withhold evidence she said.
-- -- -- My DVD of the pictures and it and the text messages however the defense just didn't have the software to download it and she says that -- -- the -- happened.
Hope isn't true though that they gave dubbed black and white photo which was very very different they didn't give the actual color photo Valerie.
Yes that's led the defense -- Jane originally but she swears that everything that they had was on that DVD.
And that if they had that proper software they would've -- the same things then why did she why did she then fire the whistle blower in the case and who's now filing also.
I asked that she said that and -- a bus was a trusted friend.
And that can be he violated their trust and that he could no longer work there because of that yes -- just look -- that he wiped a lot top clean.
Which was unacceptable.
I'm not sure that's believable this particular point -- the defense is saying they didn't have this evidence what do you think yeah that have major major problem we know from our federal court.
That Brady vs Maryland says that anything that might tend to X school pay.
The defendant in other words show that he might be innocent.
Have to be turned over to the defense all its goal that surely have actually guiding him absolutely we would want our system to work and we want the -- -- -- -- hold that.
After the verdict she's takes at -- podium.
Every prosecutor start to stay above the fray and -- the verdict we respected and sit -- not.
They all better no better no losers yeah I grew all that are active Valerie thank you ball both Valerie great job as always enjoys appreciate you coming on thank you very much.
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