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Guest sees evidence of a major fracture in the coalition of obamacare supporters.
Writing in today's Wall Street Journal Karl Rove says the high level of discontent with Obama -- suggests that Republicans can win on the issue of health care.
By offering substantive conservative alternatives.
Karl Rove served as deputy chief of staff and senior advisor to president George W.
He is a Fox News contributor and our guest right now.
So about 36 hours ago -- the House of Representatives voted for the 38 and thirty -- times at least that's the count we believed to be accurate.
To repeal obamacare are you saying that that's not enough.
-- yes I mean that's good and and this was a particularly.
Replied of the president's action in delaying the employer mandate to say we audit and delay the individual mandate is well if you're gonna help the corporation's he ought to help individual families and individual workers out.
But look there there's a real problem would just simply say no one that is the American people -- -- health care system -- it's great in many respects.
Is broken and other respects and they won.
Things to be done that will make insurance more affordable more accessible.
And the -- -- in the great news is Republicans have got plenty of ideas conservative ideas or sensible common sense and help do that life.
Allowing people to buy health insurance across state lines.
Letting people save more tax free.
-- for their out of pocket expenses let -- use pretax dollars to buy insurance letting.
Small businesses join together and pool the risk so they get the same discounts -- big companies get.
These are -- -- is as simple steps all of which test pretty well in the polling and we'll have a real impact on helping make insurance more affordable access.
But as you well know the president has a big bully pulpit and he's going to be using it today to -- -- engage in a PR campaign over obamacare after all of the bad news that the people have been reading about lately.
But you heard Jay Carney saying the White House yesterday that eight and a half million people are getting hundred dollar on average rebate checks.
From there and turned -- our conference.
Yeah well look that's because they have a requirement that the insurance companies spend at least 80% of their funds on.
Payments to individuals now this is causing insurance companies to cut back on some expense like for example fraud detection you get no benefit.
From from spending money if -- an insurance company on fraud detection under the obamacare regime you did before because.
It had an impact on your profits but now if you spend a dollar on fraud detection accounts again -- 20% so.
-- -- insurance company executives are concerned that the era necessarily cutting back on.
Fraud detection in order to avoid this arbitrary limit that you got to pay out each and every year.
80% of what you pay could take and you gotta pay out in premiums.
But let's be honest about it the Affordable Care Act is not delivering -- fundamentally every promise that the president made about it started with.
If you like what you got you can keep that we know that's not true and that your insurance premiums are gonna go down 2500 dollars year.
The year before the President Obama brought into effect of the Affordable Care Act the average premium was thirteen 1375.
What up slightly the year there was passed as -- -- it's now 151745.
Dollars as of the the end of last year.
The president said it would go down 2500 dollars and instead it's gone up by 2000 dollars that's pretty -- -- Well the president's defenders say that this in this program though it has its glitches and its problems in the roll out as being delayed.
That it's similar -- American Medicare part.
Here is one quote from today's Washington Post article.
Months before -- launched in 2006 Medicare part.
21% of the public viewed favorably 66%.
Did not understand how it would work to roll out was a disaster.
Today Medicare part.
Carl wolf first -- -- mr.
Ezra Klein -- a liberal blogger and perhaps the biggest cheerleader the -- -- post has for president Obama's absolutely wrong about that.
Yes the love the program was not as popular only 21% in one poll said they understood well enough and knew what was gonna do there was a large amount of of of of people not paying any attention to it whatsoever because it was senior prescription drug coverage seniors however were paid a lot of attention to it and they signed up.
When they signed up for the program three bad things happen.
More people signed up.
That were expected they signed up quicker than was expected and they used it more than was expected the so called utilization rate was higher in yet.
This year is the tenth anniversary of the passage of that law and the law is coming in 40%.
Under the cost estimates of the Congressional Budget Office.
Because unlike Obama care it was not the government in charge it put the individual charges -- it used -- -- a Democrat idea call premium support.
That said we're gonna give a certain amount of money did every senior and allow them to pick an insurance policy to help meet their prescription drug needs will have a little bit of means -- -- not enough but will have a little bit and it.
But the individual is in charge it makes -- decisions not the government and there's a limit to how much support the president did the government's gonna give.
And as a result consumers went out there and shot to very effectively.
For the kind of health care that they needed and as result of program has been an enormous success and way way under budget.
And end this program is already busted the budget.
Did this program started busting every promise it made you can keep what you.
Like if you if you if you if if you've got a good insurance policy we're gonna reduce your premiums we're gonna reduce the overall.
-- health care -- in America we're gonna reduce the deficit.
None of those things are coming to pass.
And now mr.
Klein's article today I was astonished that was put on page one a liberal blogger now gets to depict himself as a journalist.
And right and right -- there's this really bizarre article that suggests that Obama care.
Is being implemented effectively.
As effectively as per ships in part.
-- any health care economist will tell you that -- it simply not the case Karl Rove with some pretty passionate thoughts there Carl thank you you bet thanks jobs.
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