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And that is the scene in the east room.
The executive mansion.
As President Obama is being -- -- -- today for -- He thinks that the health care law that bears his name or at least in the this is his name.
It is still a good thing.
And I don't wanna be competing with the president here so hopefully if you want to watch him you can watch him -- -- live stream elsewhere.
But this is power play in hot and Chris Farrell.
Buenos dias that it's good to have you here in studio 38 as the brawl game frolic some train wrecked.
Whatever you want to call it.
As it relates the president's health care and health.
Care law 75 days away now.
From its key phase of implementation that is the giving people stuff heart.
Which is set -- And the president and other Democrats are looking to bolster.
Public confidence in the long with him on -- -- were very -- -- And hasn't been since it's inception we will talk about that today and with the contours of the -- election landscape is interest thing.
We will also talk about new hearings on the Internal Revenue Service as team -- stuff.
In the house continues to bring forward IRS employees.
Talk about what happened with targeting of groups particularly those who.
Like we constitution and stuff.
And we will talk about that.
And what the what the consequences for you are and we will try to a key lawmaker on the immigration bush in the house.
Liberals say that there's a plan in the works were bipartisan legislation that could ask the house.
We'll have congressman with us -- We'll have the chance a game when -- You want -- to that.
We don't we -- -- to.
We say yea because AB Stoddard associate it is war and columnist for the bill.
Is with us indeed welcome.
Thank you for us right now -- you've been.
-- been on a hot streak lately and maybe summertime.
Maybe summertime -- -- -- -- hey eight plethora of good pieces lately and of course people who.
Don't follow you on Twitter -- everybody doesn't follow.
Everybody everybody doesn't follow him on Twitter because she's not on Twitter.
It be the -- -- that you've been reading rubio you've been writing about -- Wyoming senate race we are right is that.
But this health law is the story that hasn't ended.
Really if you think about it we started talking about this in 2007.
When the democratic primaries were warming up.
And this was the major bone of contention between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton this was that the point where he wanted no mandate she wanted to -- the Democrats fought back and forth about that.
We retirement this.
I mean we've -- department this forever now 75 days away.
And for all of this and was talking about it nothing has changed let's look at the poll I hope we have the -- They do it -- doesn't salmon run down the visible and finally there's lots of there's a lot of holes that they say the same things basically say the same thing it's like -- ten point ten to fifteen point spread.
That say that Americans disapprove.
And they have lots of concerns about it.
Is can the president -- or do something today that will materially changed that.
Nobody's gonna have to start talking.
To people about benefits -- the law.
In order to get them to sign up for the -- that's what he's trying to do his campaign for enrollment.
The critical mechanism here -- -- the law either stays afloat or fails.
And so the number they're looking at is two point seven million healthy.
Right patience desirable customer and they are really.
They are going to be the hardest get because of penalties 95 dollars.
Thompson not comply.
You know once again if you look at the delay to the employer mandate -- you can scream about how unfair it is because individuals still have to buy it.
Look the deal is that means fewer people are going to be forced.
Into the system fewer healthier people probably.
And we're still looking at and -- pressing need for them.
To come up with healthy people to put into that now -- pools and that is a real he's running out of time.
And he's the people are very scared about this -- about their insurance prices going up not being able to keep their doctor actually in some states Chris.
The exchanges will only offer you want -- plan.
Right with that so it will not be a marketplace where competition drives him because -- And today is expected -- may be doing right now.
But the president says expect from some Democrats and -- -- -- -- recent days is that forecast by people who regulate insurance for the State of New York that said.
Individual insurance premiums are gonna go down by half in New York.
Yeah a good.
But why and you know why the reason why is that it would do just what -- describe.
Is that in 1983 the State of New York -- -- -- it's an insurance companies that -- right policies in New York must accept everybody looks lost right.
So that meant to have the insurance companies charge.
Incredible sums it is the most expensive state in because this is -- -- -- because this is sick pool and over time the healthy people.
Get out of the pool and say I will do anything I would move this out of the state in order to not pay these exorbitant cost.
Now what they're saying in new York and the reason that the costs -- going down there is that the mandate in the president's outlook even though it doesn't have teeth.
We forced some healthy he's absolutely no matter how dare I -- -- -- -- that's why it's cheaper in New York Ohio.
More typical for the rest of the country -- -- -- 88% increase.
As sicker people.
It is -- really.
It's really incredible not to mention the fact that -- -- so many people still don't know Chris what the law is asking of them.
And so you you know you you can and I'm sure you as well let's -- -- talk to.
-- -- roommates and friends and cousins around the country.
And they are not entirely certain what this entails and when it's going to come online and so the idea that business -- -- be ready.
That that consumers will be ready.
To think -- especially the uninsured but effort but also that self insured were very nervous about this who don't have employee -- -- And the unions that are running these kind of self insured pools that wrote a letter to the perfect to Nancy blows -- president.
By the way we're also Democrats and everything but this is you.
You're hurting us so you little the president has no choice but to rush out and continue to sell this over and over again in ways that that -- he and the Democrats have been in the past to try to convince people it's worth and -- to get out -- in front of every grocery store with you know a table and a computer and start getting people signed up because if they don't there's going to be a real problem in those exchanges.
There's just to be up and running October 1 but did they say they're on track but there's a lot of reports that they are not the exception.
-- -- -- It's interesting you mention because I would have passed -- to be able to show you this clip.
The penguins are busy writing it -- further off from.
And it's available in pixel -- not just here you can print it out if you want to.
But Obama -- shiny object on health costs.
That if you followed me on Twitter he would have already in wish in which.
I point out that Alan Duncan who is the assistant treasury inspector.
Significant delays and errors in accepting and processing Affordable Care Act.
For health insurance coverage are -- -- And as I wrote that inspector general release for.
Yeah that's right.
-- the computer system can't process the law that's been written so that's.
Really -- promising development that.
If you think about it the fact that these exchanges are going to be set out for people to go out -- managed go out on her own and -- their insurance from Dennis before.
Who you know are are nervous about how to get it up and going whether or not they're not gonna get a good deal and if you go to some of these exchanges and the administration has as.
Admitted some of them will not be some of them run by the federal government and not by the State Department yet in this state government because this -- is that now we can't handle it.
If this is the federal government is running I want and one of those exchanges and you are -- nasty and you go and you find that there's only one plan.
You're stuck with the plan and it is it really I -- that that's the uninsured you're scared of the self insured were so scared.
Not only eight -- including obviously if you're employee.
It covers you if anything could change but it says people to go out and cover I have a relative in California it was 68 dollars a -- years ago -- 280.
January 1700 dollars a month.
You and as -- is any goals for Republicans now.
He's basically to turn this health plan into the core beer and say it's on -- it's unsafe there that -- -- -- it's a death trap.
Don't get NN.
Because for the president as you say for this to even come close to working he can't just be a flood of sick people to come in and say great now I can have subsidized.
Mandatory -- coverage.
It has to be people who say hey maybe I'd like to try some of this subsidize health insurance maybe I'll take it for a test drive if the cover is if the press coverage of it and the experience that people have with that is so bad.
Then those people won't comment right.
Right well I mean does that feel you know the people who have been in the system for years you've had health problems an -- with insurance companies for years.
That's going to be very appealing they they need to be covered or not they don't -- they have preexisting conditions right.
That that is true that you know if there.
The majority in the system and we don't have those.
Young and healthy consumers it's really going to be -- problem in 95 dollar an annual penalty is just not enough to drive you to comply.
She's young she's healthy and we're glad that she tried to comment she is AB Stoddard thank you ma'am thank you.
Okay Internet -- we pause should we take a pause that refreshes so that window we come back we can impanel our -- To talk about the question of the IRS yes yes yes this is -- for the record books etc.
as those who were under the bus climb -- from them under the bus and try to back it over lowest -- and all does it matter.
Probably does we'll talk about that when we come back.
So stick around.
Her lawyers yeah.
You can't there's just nobody admitted.
A few -- if you know -- you know what I'll remember it.
And that is everything that you do not mess with -- -- Fox News Channel senior Capitol Hill correspondent Ed this is.
Our flag welcome back that's ground.
There's no pushing no no -- journalists were actually harmed in the making of that sound bite was from way back win.
When lowest -- fled fled.
A congressional hearing on wrongdoing inside the IRS that was on May 22.
And -- her from wanted to know why she -- it's over orders them.
-- and if I didn't say this is our life.
And welcome back now there are more hearings going -- the IRS today.
And it blows Lerner didn't like those -- she's really not gonna like these hearings because what happens today.
Is that congressional investigators Republicans.
Are going to bring forward those folks from the Cincinnati field office.
It was not isolated and it was not us this was at the direction behest and guidance of senior officials.
Office in Washington so what about that what about that why does it matter.
Why at this as as somebody once said at this point what does it matter.
People who know include sort of how he is a former McCain Palin presidential campaign advisor.
-- -- chairman of civic forum act.
And -- lady.
She is a former senior advisor to senator Harry Reid she is principal at the -- strategies.
You know bringing people together the overlapping area in between its smartest and it's Smart.
It's march and sushi anyway OK so.
Now Democrats say some Democrats and all Democrats some Democrats say all enough with the IRS stuff.
Enough with the IRS if you keep dragging out these IRS people.
It was it was an ideological it was a mistake and it's been rectified and anywhere falsetto and moving up.
Republicans though think that there is gold in them are bills.
Ford at a certain point though are people tuning out -- stuff.
They are turning up because the Democrats wisely knows they keep stonewalling and playing word games the American public -- of your EDD when it comes complex political matters and essentially this is declared a slow dripping and guess what the American public doesn't care why because it's not on HBO and ESPN.
We'll -- you're talking about the Fox News analyst for the Fox News Channel is just the power and so.
OK so any.
Fort sort of has a point here the president and we've talked about this here before rather than swinging -- -- through the IRS and showing.
Urgent urgent urgent urgent wrongdoing will not be tolerated especially when my political opponents -- me especially -- The president has.
Gone slow on.
He has -- a thirty day review and we're going through it as Indian point -- -- Steve what do you do do need to find the facts before they actually.
We act -- you -- other than you have in Washington isn't as we react to quickly is -- -- shown.
You know after he went out -- and called me.
Press Secretary and paid liar based on one's in the Big -- one interview and so he is cheery picking his facts.
And unfortunately he's not acting as a true chairmanship which is presenting an -- in an unbiased way and so it's really tainted his ability to actually be an effective chairman I think actually get the truth of the matter so.
You don't -- you can call the president stonewalling -- you can also pulled the Republican I didn't think -- He's -- right.
He's foot dragging and I think that pennies engaging in the same foot dragging in the recent closes the administration -- -- on the way out -- I want him to death but their argument was it was a bunch of dissipates.
Yeah that's exactly I mean about -- It's another homeless but basically they said it was a bunch of clowns in Cincinnati and this is bad customer service now we know is that it was a complex you know scheme of routing and bedding to target the IRS between most -- of the tax exempt status.
And William Wilkins.
-- was -- Obama when he was ahead of the tax -- shop and a to -- Republicans even -- I never thought -- -- work -- -- right again.
But -- this same man who defended Jeremiah Wright.
When the IRS yeah.
-- -- And a diagram and holding -- yeah.
I had I had I understand that will air William Ayers also was that was I was on the defense team.
Are except my former -- bulldozers Vega.
-- the if we're getting him out here from Chris Brown one from the hearing for -- and she says.
That it's already Darrell ice in the ranking Democrat on the committee -- -- are already eating fighting in Iraq this.
It erupted each other back and forth a lot of this and he does -- -- -- back and forth but.
The polls don't law.
Americans think this is heinous they dislike what happened at the IRS.
And they balls you don't reduces their trust in government.
And now we've seen that has reduced their confidence in President Obama being trustworthy and I -- I agree that we need to get to violence and we had unfortunate heard conflicting reports and now we have a -- that it complexity is -- targeting the tea parties now we know progresses were actually being targeted as well.
You dear precious I am skeptical of it is well I mean I would agree get Tea Party content.
All overly I I agree that they -- ultimately atomic affiliated I do but at this same time.
We'll just have to question some facts on our side instead of -- continue I'd like cherry -- the sound -- that sounds good are you thinking you're PT yeah it came on it.
But I -- -- vote that we've now proven that it is in Washington now the next questions wasn't political weapon directive by the White House and so forth.
I do Obama it is foot dragging goes but essentially the longer you put drag all you're gonna wind up doing is hurting American hurting Hillary Clinton's chances of winning -- -- -- yeah like -- -- yeah they're here.
Shot I grant -- -- is already moved ahead on and I just want to know what.
And with the rubio campaign is going to be it's.
Here's here's what here's what eyes and -- -- -- you guys what I say is that.
Crisis of confidence in the American government which is not new.
Which is building and growing and growing ground everybody complains Washington ought to get this what do they call it no labels them.
No labels haven't even though that we go well it's -- -- collection directly right.
It's is that why can't why didn't -- here.
But the no labels they always do government needs -- government -- -- government needs where people need to work if the you don't have the consent and trust of the cover.
You don't do stuff and as you watch this immigration bill for example.
Fumble and crumple.
It is because there is not the requisite trust when people say hey we want to do something big and ambitious.
These people and this is not just Republicans Democrats -- the people say.
You guys did this and -- -- and that's what -- and HBO when he -- -- -- bag and that's you know yeah.
Journalism we -- that the Sports Illustrated technique.
Witches and comedians use it to which as you make a record something at the beginning and then when it's time to close the segment closed the story back you bring -- -- -- -- journalism graduate from Q and you're not back as you're not bad anyway.
You're not bad anyway guys we thank you very much for keeping it real here today.
We're gonna take a quick break.
When we come back we'll talk to a Republican lawmaker who had a lot.
Blah blah to say about what happens in the house as it relates to immigration we'll do that when we come back.
Has been broken for a while.
It doesn't serve.
Our economy well it doesn't serve the families who were separated well.
And if we are going to go ahead and strengthen our border security we're gonna go ahead and make sure that the legal immigration system.
-- more smoothly and you don't have these long bottlenecks and waits.
Then we also don't want to have millions of people still living in the shadows after this once in a generation opportunity.
And that -- President Obama interview earlier this week with WX TV news -- -- 41.
This is power -- welcome -- what the president was saying there was.
And indeed to the long time to say but what he went underneath was this that -- house Republicans don't find a way to pass.
Immigration law -- for passed out of the senate.
That they will be missing a once in A generation opportunity.
High stakes and the president.
Also indicates he -- prescription bear one of those that the president will be pressuring.
Is congressman Howard Coble follows.
The great state of North Carolina.
Did you do here probably -- just there's there's accompanying -- -- he's barely hear you.
Well most people don't want to hear most of what I have to say anyway so you probably you're probably better off.
You better now.
So the question congressman is this President Obama says he's going to give the house and -- it.
To figure out what it wants to do on illegal immigration.
-- then he'll come back and bring more pressure to bear the Washington Post Greg Sargent at Washington Post had a -- last night.
That says that there is a bipartisan.
Gang of seven in the house and they've got planned.
That they expect Democrats -- pushing hard on what's what's really happening from your perch as you see it on the Judiciary Committee.
Well woman my constituents recently said the base and did describe the first five or six months of this session.
I said the conversation doesn't realize involve guns immigration and scandals.
And that's pretty much -- dominated the climate -- here.
Nice to figure that you're in game seven that's unknown to me.
Have -- while we have to admit that viable.
And and there and they're not they're not saying that and we don't know everybody who sent him.
But they say that they have -- playing with -- triggers that they're going to be rolling out.
As opposed to what chairman good -- and the guys on your committee say which is this has to be done one bite at a time.
In this economy is there is there a chance for some big comprehensive.
-- Well I think speaker byters made it clear that he they did it to anticipate our could be bracing -- bill at all.
So I think he's gonna come down for -- -- -- -- come.
Out of out of our Judiciary Committee and I yet you don't on the house floor don't know when they will go.
Five of the gag was seven about five net interest -- until this is the first time I've heard about it.
Well say that's why I -- in Washington Post it's not just for the car ads anymore.
Congressman -- when you think about what the house ought to do on immigration.
Leaving aside the senate bill leaving aside big comprehensive.
Are you an enforcement first kind of guy.
And -- -- -- do you favor doing enforcement before or any sort of legalization.
I believe that way out I'll -- -- fortunate very obviously.
Of course and when I go back home I have -- Farmers have not district particularly tobacco farmers.
Indicate today that that there's no way they can build a bit -- but -- -- domestic workers alone.
So -- indeed south of the border workers.
Two assisted in the Greg did the crops.
So we -- turn a -- out of that as well but I doubt they enforcement must come first.
And and -- in Greensboro they still care a lot about who's bringing in those early leads right.
Why don't we do the procurement of -- -- you didn't lose you're -- field the -- would be aborted more than the mountain area.
Okay those are my people so probably I've got I've got a mountain -- Now congressman I've got to ask you as -- are looking around are you getting ready to run for reelection.
Well I'll tell my folks back home I'm undecided.
Nobody's told the stop watch over right now.
And I really don't know I've met with a group yesterday want to do fundraisers but it would it would have a couple fundraisers that are scared you.
That I feel.
I feel like I've got to do it again.
Physically -- good shape.
Got a -- back -- other than -- -- in good -- given that given by age so you bear with me I'm undecided from the moment.
And -- straight to you.
All right we will we will definitely stay tuned -- we like that.
Very much time cooperation ahead and we we thank you for making time for us today emigrate to.
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Okay Internet say that's I believe that is the first half for a guest on our play.
We'll we'll try to keep going -- And we hope you will Lester brown and have a good time on the hunt with.
Jonathan Hunt up next and now as we like to do every day we want to leave you with the word from our French -- Us and now what -- -- seeing as workers are looking at those exchanges and seeing you know I can.
Drop out of the employer plan I get a huge subsidy I come out ahead and then I don't have to be a member of the union.
So there's a disaster for the unions and that's why you you have this letter of desperation and disappointment.
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