Power Play 7/24/2013
Obama economic roadshow, scandal at the DHS and another one at the IRS. Chris and guests discuss
Jul 24, 2013
Charlie Hurt, Ron Bonjean, Garland Nixon, Rep. Tim Walberg
Obama economic roadshow, scandal at the DHS and another one at the IRS. Chris and guests discuss
Jul 24, 2013
Charlie Hurt, Ron Bonjean, Garland Nixon, Rep. Tim Walberg
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What has been lost in some regards.
Because of it real issues that we've had to deal with including overseas but also because of some phony scandals that have.
Captured the attention of many here in Washington only to.
-- -- The white house Press Secretary Jay Carney.
I think his former colleagues in the white house press corps.
And this is power play and eyes and Chris are -- Never been touted by anybody that counts.
But happy to be with you.
-- -- not either.
Jay Carney there was talking about what the president is doing today today the president is going to -- -- Illinois.
Two -- reprise.
An economic speech that he gave there in 2005.
And talk about what he wants to do as it relates to increase is increasing taxes on top earners in order to finance increase domestic spending that he says.
Will be an investment.
In the future growth and solidity of the American middle class.
And Jay Carney is -- chided Joseph Scarborough this morning.
He's a former Republican.
Who -- -- at MSNBC.
And he chided.
In this morning saying that the police Eagles.
These parts and scandals about the IRS and other things are a distraction from what presents continues to -- economy.
Iraq so that person -- -- is part of an overall policy by the White House right now to get people's attention off of other things and onto the economy.
But you know who knows that that.
Is Charlie hurt Charlie hurt is a columnist that you should read The Washington Times is -- On Twitter at Charles hurt its -- -- it's sure.
It's just it's really true he doesn't want you to know he's he's -- he's keeping it secret.
But it's there and he's probable -- Charles hurt ideas -- -- you.
Welcome brother her.
-- program to Jay Carney thinks she should not.
The talking about phony scandals -- that there are lights are standing behind you I don't know if that's a good sign.
But -- that you should not be talking about phony scandals but instead should be tuchman -- president's vision for a stronger middle class.
Do do you feel it does do you feel it is the upgrading put you wouldn't have better mind to cover.
Well you know it's funny I feel like.
You know better than than an economic speech from Obama.
They just look at the roll out of obamacare.
That's going on right now and you -- which is much more vivid.
Example of Obama and what is going to be bumps in the road this terrible senator bumps in the digital crater in the road -- -- I was I I I took much solace in reading -- -- -- morning.
My favorite food to reminder Wheaties in the morning.
Usually -- then presented -- to let you know I was I was actually pretty.
I'm wondering why -- there there was a time when that thing would roll out at like 630.
And -- he will get united Siemens that brother because changes are in the offing for power play.
Wow yeah that's scary is that just -- -- stay tuned sticky it's just.
I would I took great solace and in reading the you were announcement that President Obama is has already -- on the tax -- he's going to get everything.
I I -- that we're talking about politicians here I don't have anything little old you're trying to tell me are you trying to tell me.
What's his name from Arkansas senator from Arkansas.
Oh he loves produce -- did and you know the guy or Mary Landrieu from Louisiana.
Or mark baggage from last did you think those guys are gonna go for another round of tax increases ahead of mid terms not.
Well now maybe not no maybe not ahead of mid terms it is but I held out that it twice fifteen if it's some house Democrats were to retake the house.
-- -- -- There damn thing but I -- but it but I I.
I mean this is Washington we are some of politicians and you know while you know the Republicans are marginally better than the Democrats on -- the stuff.
Put any faith in any of them I honestly I think that you could more than make up for.
The prior whatever is there prior related -- -- these people.
Barbara I -- Mark Prior work experience by making up the it's rare that you -- -- loss of work and now I've grown as you can never -- you.
-- I Revere as as I thought the long and great gusts.
Of my own ball you ability.
Good but I want to ask you about this there.
This is and -- heard mentioned it and I will tweeted soon -- not -- it yet because I'm I'm -- on new Internet.
But it is that the the president.
The president is basically.
Making his opening gambit.
There's 69 days now until the end of the federal fiscal year three things that are happening over that period of time in -- and at the end.
The -- the breach of the debt ceiling.
The -- I really.
Would be courage continuing resolution allowing the government to function in the absence of a budget.
He hadn't implementation of the entitlement phase the free stuff phase of the president's health what he's.
The so today's speech and these other speeches represented president's opening bit Republicans have said what they want is for him to delay the implementation was helpful.
That he let Social Security lapse before he did that.
So that's not gonna happen he's out today talking about tax increases for windmill farms that ain't gonna happen so.
We're gonna have a shutdown or something's gonna happen here is that.
Also I do you think it -- -- -- -- have put themselves are much stronger position.
Today than they were say six months ago and and for all of the complaining that people like to do about Republican leadership specially -- I do think that they deserve John Boehner and Eric Cantor.
Do you deserve some credit.
For the way -- sort of handled things up to this point.
And and there today if in terms of this year pertaining to economic issues there are a stronger -- -- adhesive that holds -- BC in the the sagging popularity of obamacare also I think the polls on obamacare can you give us.
Anything no you can't get them to and you can't -- you say that it's popular it.
Now did you say almost anything -- -- Williams says no but in time.
I think over time that he did you absolutely could and and I think that's why are Republicans and the if if that doesn't it doesn't make it a good thing it's still going to be a very bad thing and it will be another massive entitlement program that the federal government has no ability whatsoever to contain its and that's why it must be.
When they learned what it's like when they killed off measurement -- he just disappeared where's leverages the frat guys -- you don't.
Just don't read next now and then even he was disappeared in favor of the clout and nobody made that we've made -- -- -- -- entertainment it's all that.
KK 969 -- really say phony scandals.
Which marked xmas quiz question mark I guess that comes from a phony administration -- Photo scandals really -- seriously disappointed with the MSN in the new era we live and you Fox News US entity that should get used to it.
And Charles sex who wisely follows me on Twitter and hopefully now follows Charles hurt on Twitter true says how many people in the white house press -- laugh.
When Jay Carney said phony scandals probably very few but Charlie knows this.
The longer you're a lame duck.
The more people will disregard.
What you want to say it and Democrat Republican whatever and as I wrote today.
Everybody wants the first interview with the president after a ticket office the last -- life.
Who got -- got the last interviewed George W.
Bush I don't know who got Bill Clinton's last interview Yahoo!'s president.
You know in this case we already know that it will be Steve croft who think -- It's not like there's going to be a race and Jay Carney doesn't have enough clout would you believe now when he scold reporters that the judge regardless of the world and -- gonna say really did.
Your -- when you look at the whole thing you go back to 2008 when you have this hopeful promising.
A punitive chute luckily what what.
Did you believe that.
I'm I'm I'm just enough of -- soccer.
If there's part of me that didn't giving them a whole lot but I believed it -- I believe that on on that did.
Did he president won't be very very good and who's on race relations in America and I think that he's been an absolute negative that it influenced and and in that -- example isn't that what.
He didn't give speeches that he any injects race into the trade bonds are only -- -- don't let.
-- there wasn't anything.
He could have done.
Better but he didn't do anything individually but not that that's not the -- that the turning point was when he injected race into it.
To a year ago well there's that -- and it ended it already says things like you know.
The bitterness over and over for the white Hispanic white that when his -- that was that was that was that was everybody's in the media that was.
Your sons are your body in the media is and remains and ever shall be Charles -- follow him on Twitter and watch him here as well as our partnership and they users.
Internet collect yourself from all of that excellence for there is more excellence yet to come.
On the other side we've got a couple of your favorite analysts and a -- influential congressional Republican who will be here.
We'll talk about what's next as it relates to the IRS scandal and what a -- note Tony Rodham.
Do you remember Tony Rodham you should -- his brother Hugh Rodham gave plenty of headaches to the outgoing Clinton administration is they were selling -- the country not the state.
Hazel nuts four preferential treatment from US importers as well as other educator eighteen they're back just in time for her run for president we'll tell you what's going on them.
-- reputation -- game of career people.
I I am you know but a political appointees I expect the street from me and even though I don't think I deserve it in this instance I expected my career people.
Neither deserve it nor should they have to expect that and and -- and that is struggling server.
That government was expressed by Russell tour.
Inspector general for the Internal Revenue Service.
That was at a hearing on July 18 win congressional Democrats.
We're angry at him.
For not making more mention in his reports about the fact liberal groups that we have not seen any yet but that liberal groups may have also been harassed.
By the IRS while Tea Party and conservative groups are being harassed.
OK so this is power -- still.
And somebody who is charged with finding out what's next.
In the IRS stuff.
Congressman Tim Wahlberg he's a Republican from Michigan congressman welcome.
Well good to be with here.
So the question is.
We are now on the trail of an individual named William Wilkins who is the General Counsel appointed by President Obama.
For the Internal Revenue Service and you heard there -- soldier shot by the difference between political appointees and career people.
We've moved out now of the bandwidth of career people at the IRS -- implicated in this and have now moved on to one of only two political appointees inside the agency.
When are we gonna get to hear from mr.
Well I think as chairman -- is indicated several times.
We are following each lead and to its ultimate conclusion whatever that might be.
And we took action in the mentioned hearing just recently to make sure that the rhetoric about this being a Cincinnati -- case.
Was or wasn't we found that to be -- false and this was not Cincinnati rogues these were people doing their job.
And then being as we understood from the hearing that -- slow -- held back from doing what was normal policy.
That they had done one lady for fourteen years.
Another gentleman mr.
-- for 48 years.
And then being told to stand down in certain cases.
And the indication that day for the first time was that.
It went back to the office of the chief counsel who is as you said one of the two political appointees in the department.
So but would you suspect we're gonna hear from this mr.
welcomes them to do with what would the world would like to know.
I would suspect that chairman rice and doing -- due diligence will be having a conversation with mr.
-- And I would I'd be fairly a fairly certain that he will be asked to come before us if there is any indication.
That he had any specific knowledge and what was going on and also.
To find out why -- five days before.
The orders began to change about how we dealt with.
Targeted groups Tea Party groups that -- specifically as well as religious groups.
Why that meeting took place in the White House and what came from.
Okay and -- do you have any other.
Ideas about what we might be seeing next on the IRS stuff there is tremendous amount of it.
Missed out there.
Who has a tremendous amount of information that's being collected.
We have investigators from our committee staff that have been doing in -- job.
You've got to understand with Ben -- -- fast and furious with the IRS and the multiple.
Issues related to the IRS right now there's a lot of work being done a lot of overtime.
But our intentions are to do exactly what should have been done for years and really hasn't been done until mr.
Isaac took control of this committee.
And that's oversight and because of that we're finding many things in life as I tell my citizens in town hall meetings.
It probably would get worse before it gets better so all I can say is that we are doing.
Due diligence following the leads that we have.
We're not trying to make this political but we're trying to make it to -- profitable for the taxpayer to know.
And ultimately for congress to take action so these things don't happen again and as you've said.
So far even though the Democrats been trying to say that this was on progressives as well as on conservatives.
We've continued asking the chairman specifically.
Give us one instance of where progressives were targeted like Tea Party groups -- the religious groups one verifiable instance.
And -- or even an instance where they were held up.
In receiving their approval.
And we'd like to know about that as well.
-- unless they don't ask you you -- colleague from Michigan.
A congressman a mosh.
And others are talking about.
As a result or were stripping them of funny that -- allow -- -- -- data collection domestically where do you stand on that question.
Well I don't stand supportive on that I appreciate my colleague and especially my -- -- colleagues' concern and we ought to have a concern about.
Intelligence gathering specifically related to American citizens and civil liberties.
But I believe with reports that are coming out and the classified information I've had the questions I've been -- ask.
That we are on the right track that the Patriot Act is being followed.
And I think we ought to move forward on that to make sure that.
Things like Boston don't happen.
As I understand even The Boston Massacre that took place precisely because of the Patriot Act there was some information that we couldn't get.
Because the law would not allow us.
And that's that's that's the fine line in our civil liberties being protected as well as our security.
And for that reason I will not support that amendment.
If you study -- Hillsdale you know -- already but if you don't.
Please get to know congressman Tim -- congressman we thank you for your time have a great day.
Thank you for having me.
OK everything -- quick quick quick quick quick quick quick break.
But then when we come back -- panel is ready to rock props stick around.
To see someone acknowledge the fact.
That this white -- thing was a lot and I fraud from the beginning.
And that most people with any responsibility over have known it for years.
Blast from the past who is Bill Clinton William.
On April 13 in 2000 saying that he would -- -- pardon when he left office because.
This stuff was a lot.
This is our welcome back now the clintons bill and hill.
Some problems -- remember all of their.
There was that impeachment but.
Their Brothers their families were interest -- individuals.
To be sure Roger Clinton of course of -- famously the presidential brother.
Who was implicated in -- importance.
Selling Hortons as part of -- Late night move in the closing hours of the Clinton administration that included not -- Roger Clemens case that was there colder.
Who did business with -- -- hostage crisis.
And all that kind of stuff selling parts and everything but the Clinton Hillary Clinton's Brothers Hugh and Tony Rodham got -- -- trouble then and thereafter.
So what about HRC's chances in.
26 team and how her family.
And political families -- -- -- game relate to people when they run for office.
They know because they've seen it done.
Run by -- former chief of staff to the senate Republican conference from top talker for the speaker of the house.
And Republican strategist for higher of cement bond game.
Trying to picture always put strategies at the end it always sounds better price smarter welcomed apparently strategies -- mix and he is ever radio show host at WB affiliate here in Washington DC please follow him at -- -- and so.
Guys it's a blast from the past Tony Rodham.
I wake up this morning Tony Rodham.
Who was called a deadbeat dad for failing to pay his child support to Barbara boxer's daughter who you to whom he was married Tony Rodham who was implicated in peddling influence to his.
His sister and brother in -- administration.
For the exporters of Georgian hazel nuts took money.
To try to get Georgian hazel nuts from the country of Georgia into the United States.
The inspector general's office -- the Department of Homeland Security.
There's an investigation.
Into a guide to stir.
May or this.
Who is currently director there that he was perhaps peddling.
People who would like to have pieces namely in this case people from a Chinese green tech firm.
And then -- reading through guys.
You're reading through this the scene like this is an interest and like government -- good bureaucrat.
Potentially corrupt man and then -- there is who represented the Chinese green tech firm.
Tony -- this is the potential.
I guess maybe it put it this certainty.
Are you surprised that it's taken this long for Tony Rodham to reemerge.
As somebody who does things that makes this -- -- ago.
Or is this just -- early salvo in what we'll see more of and 26.
Well I think is an investigation needs -- kind of to clear up anything that there may be questions why -- cleared up early -- until late but I don't think about it I don't think most Americans really are concerned about this you know we've got the history going back to Jimmy Carter's brother etc.
Phillies here's a lot differently peddling everything about it is we all if we go to a family -- -- -- cousin -- brother -- that we look at it and -- old little someone's sons.
And I'll -- it out yeah.
President actually is that.
If if this was am Marco Rubio his brother.
Right for example.
You kind of get the sense that the Associated Press wouldn't have on this and paragraph not like oh yeah it wouldn't be headline would be.
Rubio brother implicated again -- scandal.
Well you know what's interesting is there is a little businesses station when it comes -- Hillary.
Because there have to have an armor that's fans and doesn't get it desensitization bad at the same time you do have ingredients for exports scandal here you have the Chinese you have to.
The spirit -- -- other items she was secretary say yeah you you have her brother.
I'm you have this gentleman who is.
Going to be your or I nominee to be number two.
At Homeland Security who actually.
Scorched earth allegedly pushed for this these are way director of my own business.
Which sounds like and admire.
Which sounds like the name of a bond -- director Mallorca SAT NTC I mean we have a vampire and I had a horrible -- Count Mallorca.
-- inspector general is still looking into this nothing has been concluded.
But you have.
Ingredients what could be made for and there are great move -- at least made for TV.
Now if Hillary Clinton so we do I -- -- -- this today it if Hillary Clinton doesn't run.
Or somehow was prevented from running the Democratic Party is going to need a change of pants because this there's so much.
It's free data onto her everything.
There's going to be every effort made to insulate her from anything that could be problematic because all the eggs in this basket right.
To some extent I think early and we -- we shouldn't really you know look at this this is too much of an issue for this reason one of the things is going on now.
Is that because of the them.
The cyber attacks that -- -- back to China anything that's related to China is looked at in -- and this is about to get back investment right so this is about investment from China what they do is they follow wait to see where it goes in fact there was some Chinese investors that -- some of that money was going into the league the building of an FBI building.
And they thought well you know.
Windows media -- -- building but that's what this is really about I think it's and it's it may turn out to be much nothing there are no -- it in implications at this point.
My -- -- and he points out.
Wisely Terry McAuliffe is also running for governor of Virginia and loyal retainer of the house of Clinton Terry McAuliffe is currently under scrutiny for.
He's recruiting governor and 88 green car company that got a bunch of federal money and then didn't.
Make much -- for anybody so.
-- when you've been in public life as long as the clintons and known people and been related people like this for so long you're just gonna have some.
They're going to be some folks hanging around.
No that's right there's just try to nurse the problems there's -- in the -- there is.
You know it what's interesting is this all revolves around ended -- special visa waiver immigration program -- obviously search that allows investors.
That -- of foreign investors certain amount of -- if they create jobs the United States.
The problem is that mostly the Chinese are utilizing this program and they're trying to invest in all parts -- -- all kinds of different places.
That have potential national security and economic down.
Side and that was our most government as well McAuliffe was doing to right they were getting visas and that they sell the visas or -- -- did you get a certain number carve out.
Our immigration system is -- -- lovely process so that's perfect the official democratic position is Hillary Clinton's brother is creating jobs in the united state yeah -- -- what I don't let you criticize a guy who had these big enough and he's.
Guys you are we may -- you guys would be a center of it we thank you -- -- announcing today.
Points out Obama.
I think -- I think my take these things -- -- here about -- did nothing.
It's not like you poured gas on the fire just to see what happens as it relates -- trip on market and let me say this.
The president rightly talked about.
His own experience as it relates to race as the first nonwhite president.
Non -- -- president.
In American history he rightly talked about his own experience he does he doesn't do it all the time it was a moment where you -- it.
Tennis -- in others have pointed out he could have done -- a lot better he could have done a lot more effectively but -- tell you met his own experience on race there's nothing.
That by the way I look at that's okay.
You guys make up your minds that's just that's just way the way I see so.
On the hunt is up next but -- -- around you can treat for you is -- you'll enjoy that and now.
As we like to do everything.
A word from our French or.
It's absolutely it's going to be a slight of hand it's going to be how much can we transfer.
In directly in a way that will not look like --
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