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-- go to something that's a little bit it's not lighthearted at all and that's the fact that al-Qaeda seems to -- -- -- jailbreak at Abu grab.
Releasing some 250 to 500.
Active al-Qaeda inmates -- what happened I thought Iraq was the war that we -- run that everything was stabilized now al-Qaeda is back again.
To make it as simple matter of force possible for those who not part -- -- with Iraq it's like when you are given.
A a series of pills to take by doctor that's an antibiotic.
And you start that series and if you stop it early.
The infection can come back and even more severe because it'll it'll metastasized and change I think that's what -- seen here.
Let's remember this jailbreak was to separate location separated by by significant distance.
Over 500 people got out and in many ways KT this is almost as if they've had these guys incubating learning.
In these prisons becoming better.
Operatives if you will better terrorists much like our jail system United States and it becomes almost a training ground for criminals I think the same could be said there so this is severe.
And the other thing that people need to understand that this does directly link into Syria.
Because of the politics and what's going on that region anything that happens -- Iraq because there's really not I believe a stable government because we've left it kind of on the edge of being stable we have the potential allowing these guys to go influence things badly I might add in Syria.
What that time we just sort of map -- I'm talking to your porn set where our program is where Baghdad is.
And where the out of prison break was it that looks like all of Iraq.
Is under threat from al-Qaeda.
Would you say that what we have seen in Syria could then spill over back into Iraq and we could see another Iraq War.
It's all instability it's all partly caused by the fact that we -- these things in motion one way or another.
No one -- debate why we won in the but that the bottom line is this I think most military experts.
Would agree that our job and I Iraq was not done it as much as if it -- and -- counter insurgency was going to work it is going to work and I Iraq because you had a very.
Very large very developed middle class who had their own interest frankly to become an economic power house and have stabilize.
We've left that in jeopardy.
And so when you look at both these locations with Syria and Iraq being related by the fact that you have Sunni Shia elements that radical al-Qaeda elements.
And more more to the point here.
If you look at when -- -- mystery over captain of the day -- that lasted a couple days and it was a very sophisticated attack.
So this tells me that al-Qaeda as an entity.
Is coming back strong within the region to do things to destabilize the governments which are at least at this point time friendly to us.
At a time we just had a rest are friends with her and talking about Syria and what operations we have with Syria and I.
Pointed out that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff general Martin Dempsey earlier this week laid out five military options and basically said -- -- undesirable.
What do you think.
In the United States could or should do with regard to Syria and particularly in the context of Iraq.
Let me frame at first al-Qaeda -- and in my judgment is not -- pay extra to extend to threat United States with that said.
It is a threat to the very issues were talking about regarding Syria regarding that the -- -- laid out for this issue.
So Syria could look at Syria as a metaphor relating to the entire region the whole Arab Spring.
We have to be very careful and diligent on how we use military force connect military force.
I've talked to the planners on this issue and right now as I understand it there's a lot of options on table none of them good and I think general Dempsey reflected that back.
To Senator McCain.
I think this is truly something where we have to walk a fine line between.
Taking direct action because the moment we take direct action we put boots on the ground we become the issue I think we make ourselves a target.
So I think it's important that we work with our allies and friends in the region as a proxy.
And as -- -- pointed out at this point.
And -- -- is -- Jennifer pointed out regarding the -- issue we need to look at the Russians for working with us on this but at this point in time really don't have leverage to deal with Vladimir -- Because they're one of the primary both -- supporters and political supporters of the Asad regime.
Much might think tanks -- of advanced defense studies has a strong position as we do not want to see.
The Syrian infrastructures that does that destroyed like we saw in Libya that would lead to wholesale chaos.
And pockets of al-Qaeda radical elements being able to -- up -- owns essentially -- governments within the Syrian country.
With that said doing nothing is not an option either we have to walk a fine line and try to influence things as best we can without I believe -- Connecticut options at least as this at this point in time.
So when we were in Iraq to a decade ago.
The argument was -- -- spill over into Syria but you're right making the argument now that from Syria could go back into Iraq.
Absolutely it they're they're.
Neighbors and then again the political elements in both countries are -- focused on destabilizing that the governments of of the nation so.
And at least right now the Iraq government is front let us.
A Syrian government is not quite so friendly to us but it does not change the fact that that the radical elements one destabilize any regime they see -- enemy al-Qaeda for example.
As has changed is really.
-- -- up more upset with the French than they are with us and they're they're out is that in the current form to destabilize the Middle Eastern monarchies and these other nations that they don't like.
So as much as well I think al-Qaeda is not an -- potential threat it is a threat to the stability of the nation's we consider allies -- in the region.
OK well let's stop lieutenant colonel Tony Schaeffer author of the new best seller the last line which talks about.
That potential marriage made in hell which is Hezbollah and drug cartels thanks so much for joining us Johnny thanks dictates -- -- thank you.
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