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-- -- in the house today lawmakers gearing up to vote on an amendment that would -- of the mass collection of US phone records.
The White House blasting legislation -- the -- to reject it.
My next guest is the -- like -- behind its.
Republican congressman from Michigan just had a -- with me now.
Congressman are you opposed to this data collection because it's -- to parole and there's too much data being collected.
All because you -- about what the government will do -- Thanks for having me on and I'm I'm worried about both things we have no reason to believe that the government is using this particular data in -- nefarious way.
But there's a Fourth Amendment of the constitution and if it protects us against this kind of broad collection.
And right now the government is collecting the phone records -- every American in the United States.
Can't and now let me move this Portland.
We are at some point very probably go to deal with the nuclear terrorist.
It is entirely possible that some point in the future a -- was gonna look here in new someplace in America will be blackmail.
I wanna know how to that -- get -- and if I have to read the phone records collected by the NSA I want those records collected.
Will you respond to that.
Yeah I want to know how that -- gets there as well but we have a constitution we have to follow.
And the constitution protects our records.
If we're gonna go down the road of allowing the government to collect everything on us then we're gonna go down the road of also in allowing the government put cameras in our homes and to -- us everywhere we go.
In the name of safety we have a deep tradition of liberty in this country and we must follow the constitution.
B I don't think that the risks are going to be elevated significantly.
In the nuclear age I don't think so -- you know -- was.
Checking against that risk.
We absolutely live in a risky world.
But it's very important that we comply with the constitution because -- we throw things like the Fourth Amendment out the window we lose our freedoms and we're trying to protect ourselves against people.
Who are allegedly.
Fighting us because they hate our -- -- in the process we can't lose our freedoms so there is no way.
You would accept the -- collection of data.
You say it's totally unconstitutional you can't have it right.
Once they're collecting phone records and moves on to other things.
-- and we don't want them collecting our videos or pictures or emails or anything else would you would you accept more data collection.
If there was more -- sites if there was some more safeguards in place.
I think there may be ways to do it without having the government.
Obtain the whole database.
There may be -- for ways for private companies to cooperate voluntarily with a government.
Two -- to provide them with records and certainly my amendment would not restrict in any way -- NSA's ability to go after a person who's the subject of an investigation.
And it wouldn't restrictive collection of foreign phone data for example on.
No absolutely not okay.
Thought it would not restrict that it would allow them to go after anyone congressman Justin a -- Republican Michigan thanks very much for joining us -- do appreciate it thank you.
Thanks so much --
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