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Now -- our lead story the grievance industry and some civil rights organizations not dealing with the core problems in the African American community.
-- this now -- -- rule Louis -- Corning a professor of sociology and black studies City College New York.
All right so what was your reaction to the interview -- mr.
-- I think the interview from the supporter was good on a number of levels one and a supporter talked about.
Ways in which corporations can work together in the conflicts but I think what's important is that -- reporter pointed out that there has been historic tension.
Between Al Sharpton a little -- If you look back to 2007.
I'll -- lead the campaign.
About decency in hip pop in fact his first goal is to say we're gonna protest companies that don't clean up their act.
Immediately he gets a response.
That says look if you don't understand the -- if you don't talk to people.
You can't simply talk about wiping the slate OK that was 2007.
And we now -- and now he's in business with a company who debates is the culture.
If that now he has a book deal.
With cash money -- -- I don't know that's not a publisher that I'm familiar with nobody that being said let -- -- -- -- -- -- but Sharpton you know so now he's in business with a company -- and I think what's important about that does that have thought you have on it doesn't bother me it is the first reason is that.
Al Sharpton is an iconic civil rights figure you know -- -- is an iconic hip hop generation figure.
They -- conflict there's been tension between the two.
This actually may mark a point in which people find common ground.
In which culture.
And attitudes and discussions about hip hop and social movement comes who had actually see collaboration where there's been tension before.
And there's greater chance that I put our -- from within Al Sharpton may be in May be able to change.
Probably hit I think that they both have to change and I think that they're meeting there's -- -- happening here that's unprecedented why over the past fifty years has the out of -- were out of wedlock birth rate.
Gonna 50% from 25 to -- front approaching 75 via our commitment is on the decline -- you realize that no it isn't it it is now I'll ask me so less Center for Disease Control statistics say it's going back up against but.
Let's not quibble over a couple of decimal points why is the big rise I think one of the reasons we have is that we know now women it's not compulsory for women to marry.
Both white woman in black men and women are opting out of marriage.
-- increase and unmarried women you also see a shift in the number of out of wedlock births -- -- feel that's a poverty driver.
No I think poverty relates to the the two the marriage rate but poverty -- at the root.
I think we have people who are located in places with -- have little access to jobs.
-- access quality schools the -- access to health care they're much less likely to you know getting that black women and babies out of wedlock no father in the home drives property you don't -- -- got it backwards it's actually the poverty.
That increases the chances that someone would not give -- OK so I don't really understand that because of your poor are there are a lot of poor.
People in other countries that don't do this.
When was the last time you saw.
A major civil rights organization.
Trying to discourage.
African American women from getting pregnant out of what.
When was less than subtle wolf I've seen the discouragement of out of wedlock -- I have seen the encouragement of marriage.
I have seen an emphasis on jobs put -- I think pretty abduction problem when you say right about -- -- the problem is actually fix by the solution of jobs.
The the creation of the economic safety net it's not conflict only get married how -- people are -- and don't have jobs don't have access to economy.
If we set aside the wedding and marriage -- linked to poor people together who don't have enough you have occasionally but there you -- -- -- was author of a child might have -- -- -- -- encourages improvements.
And that's my people -- your -- the -- but the content is even more important if you have me young child black white doesn't matter what color they are and they can't read well I can't speak English and tattoos all over them.
It can be hard without the ball over the net like bill that they're actually all the kids that know them well they've broken -- often can be hard for them to get jobs all right.
So the cultural -- that we see.
Is influencing how people get jobs -- but I don't think is the -- the basement that you don't think Lil Wayne is debasing your culture.
I don't know growing as the primary driver of my culture you know they maravent biting little is little Wayne debasing African American culture I don't know what unify an African American culture but I don't -- and not in our opinion.
It's -- emblematic Latin American culture now.
OK so you having any influence he and his ilk.
No and I'm not saying he's not having any sort of tough primary driver -- one obesity -- easy to -- is one of -- thousand -- -- -- question.
Are trying to bill I don't think my glance of elementary law.
-- not I asked you if he's -- African American culture yes -- -- I don't think little -- is the embodiment of African American culture he's not a direct answer doctor and if I were a student in your classroom you give me.
I want everybody -- one more question you say that all of the chaos that's -- by crime.
The birth rate all of this stuff is -- -- of poverty.
It's poverty that it's humming from these things so it's and he is everybody was in it yet you -- an immigrant communities historically.
Have risen up.
Because there has been intact family all right it's it's how are handling this access to labor and -- -- not such an immigration.
And who -- actual jobs and employment mobility we'll see the central factors having access to quality work that provides for family.
I think you'll all people bill should say we need more jobs we jobs that are accessible they're not gonna hire these people because they can't do the job the Q what is education.
And education has to be incursion home is the homelessness drug addled chaotic no supervision there's not going to be any education.
-- -- doctor there that he's having all the fun I study school's not in these neighborhoods look -- Do you -- to come over to Harlem who are watching tonight and we'll look at the ways which people are tried hard and get your school I know what's going on all right doctor we appreciate your point -- -- thanks permanent.
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