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Much more the architect Karl Rove Karl your reaction.
You know I thought was interesting.
When I went back and look at what you had to say Sean just after the IRS scandal broke in I was really taken -- want your early comments because I thought was so strong.
And I'd like to read it read it for your viewers.
You said if in fact IRS personnel engaged in -- that that kind of practices that have been reported on.
And we're intentionally targeting conservative groups and that's outrageous and there's no place for it.
And they have to be held a fully accountable because the IRS as an independent agency requires absolute integrity.
And people have to have confidence that -- planted in a nonpartisan wise.
And you should feel that way regardless of party.
I don't care whether you're Democrat independent or Republican at some point they're going to be Republican administrations at some point they're -- -- be Democrat administrations either way.
You don't want the IRS ever being perceived to be blast and anything less of neutral -- how they operate so this is something not think people are properly concerned about.
That's what you said when a scandal broke no wait a minute wedeman that was President Obama.
When this scandal broke and now he's saying it's a phony scandal.
What I wanna broke he said this is -- there's no place for this there's absent that we have to hold people fully accountable what what do it do what happened between the time they made that statement and today.
Well I think it is a story what a story -- -- rogue agents now we see it has all the way to the topic is political appointee.
-- to -- it looks like.
The one of the two people -- a 60000.
IRS employees while the two people whom the president appoints the General Counsel of the agency.
Is the person who appears to have been at least knowledgeable about this if not the actual source for let's go further -- you mentioned.
You mentioned the -- the scandal involving our colleague James Rosen.
And also I -- I would remind you 100 editors and writers.
At the Associated Press in -- both instances the administration.
Broke the rules -- could -- the attorney general the United States ignored.
The very specific guidance that the Justice Department has established for handling cases like this and the attorney general the United States not once but twice broke these rules that are supposed to guide his behavior -- these instances and then lied about it under -- to the United States congress.
And and white and and the president says what about that.
He says well let's get together -- promise that we're not gonna do that again.
But if there is a scandal there why did they break their own rules why were we misled why did the attorney general go under oath.
And tell the United States congress that he had never been involved in a case like he was involved and not once but twice the associated press and Fox News.
All right let me who and that goes the same for the -- Ghazi.
Whose families that lost loved ones is that a phony scandal Brian Terry.
-- -- Finally there.
-- -- guys you for a moment let's take Ben Ghazi for a moment.
Let's let's listen to what the president said.
Here's what we know he said Americans died -- Ben Ghazi.
What we know he is clearly they were not in a position where they radically projected and I -- the American people that we would find out what happened.
What we would make sure that it did not happen again and we would make sure that we were held accountable those who perpetuated this horrible -- well first of all we know that.
That he didn't do the last thing we still not yet gotten these guys who killed four Americans and we also still don't know what what went on and I we don't even know where the president was.
We don't know why people or not sent it to relieve these people we don't know.
Why they gathered for so long.
-- -- are people who are under attack and we do not know who's responsible for -- a lot of the American people that this was all because of a video which no one saw a -- incidentally.
That was given that which was given five times.
Five days after this was all done on national television by the president's own ambassador to the United Nations -- look -- hasn't lived up to his own words.
We would we were told by the president we would we would be told what it happened and they get to the bottom list and they get these bad guys and that hasn't happened.
Are you -- the president's long meandering speech yesterday I don't -- cost something that I caught.
Where he pretty much exposed.
To the media for being in his back pocket watch this family thing.
Not centers and in the run up to this page.
Lot of reporters say that.
Now you know.
The spread these are all good ideas but.
Some -- before some -- sound great -- You can't give -- through congress.
Republicans won't agree with the.
I think they all agree would we agree with you Mr.
President those were those evil Republicans won't go along with your great ideas really.
Look look I'm -- -- there one there wanted two things either this is true in which case the media ought to be ashamed of themselves or this is false.
In which case the -- told was another big whopper I tend to believe it's more the latter than the former I don't think the president comes into a lot of contact.
With reporters even the sick offense who overpopulated the -- -- press corps and the white house press scored digger.
I just think he made this up he then goes on you left -- -- of the -- the next -- -- and a lot of Republicans agree with -- and I -- because they tell -- really.
-- and I've talked to a lot of Republicans on the hill and I might yet have yet to run into one.
The talks to you on a regular basis at all please let's look at the president's schedule when was the last time he was in contact with any Republican on the hill.
Maybe that would give us a clue as to who this individual might be I think this is probably the Republicans on the west wing staff to the president Valerie Jarrett.
Assistant perhaps I mean this was completely.
Below -- complete baloney let me get why.
-- -- Let me let me let me tell you why why OK -- -- USA god why.
Well and this is all posturing for a budget battle.
The the the current law.
A big budget agreement that the president signed in July 2011.
Sets discretionary domestic spending and 967.
Billion dollars for this year.
The senate Democrats and -- Obama wanna spend 1000000000058.
Billion dollars they wanna bust the sequester and bust the budget agreement and and start ramping up federal spending.
And they wanna spend 91 billion dollars more this year now first of all who thinks -- 191 billion dollars from the Chinese and other investors.
Because it has to be all borrowed money we will have it.
And spending it on the president's little projects is gonna somehow heal our economy.
It's an excellent but look let's be honest this what this all about he's trying to get ready for the budget battles are -- because he wants to Jack up spending.
-- let me ask you one question about this budget senator Mike Lee of Utah.
That Republicans as this battle moves forward this is their last opportunity because all spending begins in the house withdrew with congress they have the power of the purse.
He's saying defund obamacare -- the rest of the government.
I -- I think this -- live I know they've they've voted 35 times to repeal it but this will be the one thing they can do constitutionally.
That would have some teeth.
I think it's a good idea what -- ninety.
-- you know what I -- I'm suspect about -- because it gives the president a and the bully pulpit in a gigantic stick on which to beat -- because.
All he has to do is to say look this law was passed -- on the books I'm gonna Vito.
Your continuing resolution that doesn't help fund obamacare and it's on you for shut down the government out of -- -- I would rather keep.
You know what he'd he'd turn this around just like his like Bill Clinton turnaround on us I would rather make him continue to be the guy.
Who's trying to ask for more spending and keep the spending flat right at 967 as his budget agreement that he signed.
Have set and set in motion I think this is our last chance to get rid of it and it -- if we I don't I don't think the last thing I don't think we can get rid of it.
I don't know -- -- -- gonna collapse in and of itself if we keep the pressure on Karl Rove thanks for being with us.
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