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It's official big labor wants a big bailout for Detroit the AFL CIO releasing this statement.
But we call upon President Obama and congress to commit to an immediate infusion of federal assistance.
For Detroit clothes that quote that could mean up to eighteen billion dollars so should taxpayers be forced to pay.
There's a British Abrams says absolutely not the mark and it says bail amounts really you first.
Well let me just start by saying that I feel for the workers at the -- people that built lies and and businesses in Detroit who are suffering.
Because of the the way that their city has been managed but the fact is for too long the auto makers have ruled that city there has been this corrupt cozy relationship between the union.
And the politicians.
Keeping each other and power and we're seeing that -- has fallen and we have to let it fail if we ever want to learn from the mistakes now mark.
You say white -- bail them out our -- what -- -- calling it yeah well listen I'll agree with Sabrina that there's absolutely been a system of corruption in Detroit that shouldn't be forgive the bull by any stretch of the imagination.
But but we think about here's my butt.
The assistance that should be going to Detroit and I think anybody whether you're Democrat or Republican if you live in the state of Michigan.
Have to realize that these are people who have been working for years for you know twenty years thirty years.
Public employees who have paid into a pension system and they're contractually.
Entitled in a way to this -- that is money that they've paid into so.
Yes we need to work on pension reform going forward this is sort of the saudis warned -- the warning bail out the pensions right now that's -- the bankruptcy was all about -- negotiate I'm saying we're talking about 181000 dollars a year to people who paid into these -- we're not talking about major government what our job is -- or be saying to do if the -- -- the taxpayer US taxpayer -- Kansas has the bail out Detroit for what reason right because the entire American economy.
Look -- there's an apt analogy here due to Germany Germans right now are furious that they have to.
You know chip in more tax dollars in order to and so do we Spain and Italy but at the same time the entire European Union benefits financially it's -- America's economic interest to make sure that.
-- a great American city.
Is that financing -- just tell our.
-- -- there's no longer are also bring all of it but we're not we're not saying the Detroit is in the great American city was simply saying that they did things wrong instantly.
Completely right -- workers -- that it let me get -- -- a minute ago.
Well I am sympathetic to these workers like they said that -- unfortunately they have been robbed by their politicians by their union leaders they've been lied to consistently for years and years.
He's -- -- -- that these pension systems are unsustainable.
The bigger problem is that Detroit has a history of picking winners and losers are right now we can't afford to -- -- track any farther the fact that this is -- city with the highest.
I'm income tax and the state the highest property tax in the country.
That total job decentralization as a result we have a city rife with crime failing schools and that -- and so I think unfortunately this is just it's on an unsustainable path we have to let it fail.
And hopefully someone will help pick up the pieces mark.
You take a look at cities like Dallas some of the cities that are doing things right they don't have a city income tax or property taxes -- Franklin lower than Detroit which has both an income tax and high property rights.
Should we make the people who are working class Detroit residents who have been paying into their pension systems pay for the failures of the corruption guy.
Local politicians I personally think the people have been I don't look at all right -- well I don't have a militia but -- but should the rest the American taxpayer.
Pick up that -- Look I think Detroit is in an emergency situation when we bailed out for example -- auto companies when we bailed out Wall Street.
We're bailing out finance years and we're bailing out people who make six figure bonuses and we can bail -- -- some rain he -- mark points and how we did bailout the auto companies but guess and Detroit still bankrupt.
And America and Americans are done with bailout that's because we still have high unemployment people are still suffering they're working hard trying to make their un and Sabrina from -- It is -- -- -- -- and gave them what do you like an outlet in the -- a fifteen year old 65 year old retiree in Detroit and tell them.
That they can't get to 181000 dollars a year that they've been paying into.
When their family needs at the to eat when they're when they're young worked for Detroit his childhood who's trying that -- -- -- you bring up a family and things I can't afford that it's not my fault that these people were -- still.
And what does it say it all of the other cities out there that are trying to be fiscally responsible what does it say to a city like Dallas.
Well aren't -- you have where you have reasonable fiscally responsible policies but we're going to write you know attacks yer taxpayers in order to help the people of the Torre who have had failure bad politician right we have to -- and they're wrong message.
We have to leave that that's a brand and that's -- by the way there are at least fifteen other American cities that may be on the brink of the same exact thing and -- we had a really really think about these -- and by the way.
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