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And welcome to FOX News Sunday panel plots -- Brit Hume Amy Walter Nina Easton and Juan Williams and one of the big saw subjects today and answer the subtext for all of that.
Was the budget battle that's going to be going on starting in September between the Republicans and the Democrats the president and congress over funding the government and also ranks in the debt limit and that has.
As a subtract the whole question of this playing out as a huge issue.
In the 2014 election.
It we have Mike Lee on the Republicans senator from -- Tea Party darling Brett who.
Is is saying and there are a lot of Republicans who disagree with them we need to make Obama -- an issue and refused to on the government.
Unless the president agrees to stop funding obamacare.
It is and it is a social leverage.
But there's some real history here Republicans have done this before and they've carried this brinkmanship.
Over spending and debt limit and -- government to.
The limit and if you do that and the president doesn't yield.
Means that it's all or part of the government doesn't get funded.
An all or part of the government shuts down.
And the history is Republicans get all the blame.
And doesn't and and Bill Clinton got into -- and to a struggle like this.
And precipitating event was his refusal to sign a bill that would have funded the government and the Republicans still got to blame.
So politically this is very dangerous Republicans to play this game -- doesn't mean they shouldn't seek to extract.
Some spending concessions and but their point of view has to be seen is reasonable.
And sensible and if it doesn't -- to win.
But this gun -- head.
And the funding of obamacare shut down Obama -- -- to me to be a bridge too far kindest guy.
You know it's it's -- -- Amy did the -- was trying to get some of his Republican colleagues to sign on to a letter to.
Democratic majority leader Reid in effect the petition saying.
We won't go for funding the government if Obama -- responded he originally got seventeen Republicans senators and now -- five who have signs that it can you get the -- ray saying get my name is off that and -- Barbara.
I ain't a colleague Republican colleague in the senate Mike -- said.
Dumbest idea I've ever heard.
And an end big argument is if you actually follow -- evidence of causing the shot down.
Or a default that this is exactly the kind of thing that could cost Republicans the house and the senate when he fourteen -- you.
Do think it is good.
There is say it.
A Democrat who or remain nameless has has said to us -- cook political report.
Because we've said constantly you know Democrats really don't have much of a chance to take control of congress are structural problems -- -- for Democrats.
He -- -- just say you know Democrats may not have a chance to win it but Republicans have a chance to lose -- and that's actually a pretty fair assessment which is.
That Republicans have everything going for them in 2014 it's an off year election traditionally that's good for the party out of power.
Both the structural makeup of the district's -- the kinds of people that turnout in midterm election good for Republicans the only way to blow this.
Is to do your own in east trip yourself up the other issue about obamacare -- -- -- there's no doubt that it's not popular.
That's fair but the repeal argument also is not particularly popular what's popular.
If you want to bring the middle together if you really want to reach those.
Handful of independent voters out there you talk about fixing it he can repeal and fix you can you know.
Keep it in place and fix you go to the part where.
Americans do feel united which is this isn't perfect you agree to that and move forward just getting on the repeal goes back to that argument that -- -- that Democrats have been hammering Republicans for the last few years now which is there a do nothing party with no ideas they need to break out of that mold.
Special they may not even don't -- fourteen but they definitely need to do and 26.
-- it's -- the president has an interview with a New York Times today in in effect what he says is let's let obamacare play out he.
At least for sauces to have considerable confidence when we see what happens and 2014 when people -- to go to the strength is -- have to sign up.
And and not the employer mad because that's been the lady here but on most of the rest of it goes into a fact people -- like it.
Hillary get to that I didn't want to just follow up on and on this is so apparently this week.
And another piece of this plot and narrative going on about about the Tea Party.
Is it that Tea Party organizers our -- going to say that they're gonna go after Republicans.
Who don't support their strategy on on -- finding obamacare so not only do you have Republicans playing with fire on the overall strategy.
The Republicans any Republicans you know -- -- -- litigation getting primary from the right so I'm and I'm not sure how -- affected.
How helpful that is the Republican Party.
On the question about Obama care look.
I think that none of us knows exactly is it's going to be a good or bad.
Politically it's -- can be good or bad -- -- there's also clearly there's lots of warning signs out there there's problems with the exchange's.
There's comedy -- -- signs that premiums will go up dramatically.
Four and particularly individuals and small businesses trying to get.
Health care and as soon as next year as his right right away that's gonna happen.
You know whether that I think there's going to be in the case of obamacare is going to be winners and losers winners are people who don't have health insurance and and are able to get through -- exchanger.
They're going to be losers people who lose their insurance who worked for companies pursue their premiums go up.
So you know it's gonna play out and a divisive way just the same -- of the laws devices and.
And that's really.
It seems to me because it's clearly gonna go into effect the Republicans just politically -- not going to be able to stop it.
But it could be a huge issue in the funny fourteen campaign if people think -- this is helped me.
They're probably -- be susceptible to democratic arguments conversely if they.
If it turns out to be a -- and they lose their coverage or they have to pay a lot more sport I would think that the -- site and the Republicans -- -- -- -- Yeah I mean -- thing is they don't like the status quo it's pretty overwhelming Americans think that health care costs too much it's in efficiently delivered.
They want to keep their doctor they want things in place but.
They don't think that this is a good system so to come back to Amy's point -- NBC Wall Street Journal poll this week.
Show that a majority of Americans say.
You know stop this repeal effort let's try to fix it let's let's let's look at what can be done with this.
And yet you see from the party a different calculation which is.
The Republican the Republican Party the calculation that we can use this to stir the base because there's no question.
Totally hate on Obama -- I think it's up to like 76%.
In the last Kaiser Family Foundation poll.
So this there is the base and then you have.
You know their -- the Coke Brothers you have a crossroads GPS you have.
Freedom works back to the Tea Party conservative group all launching -- campaigns this August.
Going into all the town hall meetings that are going to be held in home districts.
I -- you know we got to go after obamacare.
That feeds the -- -- sentiment.
And I think it's very difficult for the party and -- and plays to what we've been hearing about in this panel which is the split within the party about where they knew -- don't.
I'd say that that is you can hate Obama care as a Republican and not think that you should -- down the government because.
I will tell you I got communications -- offices of senate leaders and house leaders this week to -- dead set opposed.
To them to Mike Lee's plan because they think.
It's a bridge to fart to use they got it right sense that -- that -- that it's one thing to sit there and say we don't like obamacare it's another thing to say much shut down the government over.
Public diplomacy look at the governments and let's cut it down.
But not shut shut it down every shut down we've had a -- was that -- -- has been wildly unpopular.
And the reason written Republicans.
Worry about getting the blame is that they always had.
Which cut it down not shut down I think he gave me up restrictor -- thank you I'll battle.
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