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Republicans in the house will vote this week for the fortieth time to repeal parts of obamacare -- this time to prevent higher -- and implementing the law.
We also learned today that Detroit is used parts and the health care overhaul.
To offset some of the nearly six billion dollars in costs.
-- its retirees health care benefits by pushing some.
Onto the national health care exchanges will get to that in a moment in the meantime this all kinds.
As the New York Times as much as what -- -- referring to as a massive defense of the president's.
Signature legislation with -- op -- by economist Paul Krugman singing its praises.
And the editorial board calling Republican tactics on health care quote despicable and joining us now Bob Cusack is managing editor.
The hills -- a lot happening.
All the while in politics while the policy part and this law.
Is trying to go into place really in about two months until these insurance exchanges have to be set -- so.
So who's who's winning the battle here the politics of at all well it.
-- I think it's a bit -- -- mean Republicans are going on offense on this vote on the house floor this week which food it would prohibit the Treasury Department.
Any part of Obama can of course the IRS is taking the lead on the individual mandate so.
Last week house Republicans were able to split Democrats on.
Two bills one that would have delayed the individual mandate just like the a -- initiation has.
Delay the employer mandate all Republicans on the same page there dozens of Democrats not.
Now Republicans though.
May go a little bit too far in trying to possibly shut down the government to not defined obamacare lot of conservatives calling for that.
But Republican leaders have not echoed that call and that's -- situation there very nervous about because -- the government is shut down because of obamacare funding.
That could torpedo and boomerang on the GO PC you believe that the GOP doesn't wanna go that far up into the direct line and cross over -- That's right I mean they face this decision before and every time the White House is insisted that Obama can't be funded.
And every time it's been funded not to the point that the White House wanted but but there's been no.
So up until that point again we have until after Labor Day before we see this debate that could lead to a government -- really take place so put that off just for a second -- -- -- know we'll watch for that that fortieth vote again this week.
This situation in Detroit is very interesting we know that Detroit is filing for bankruptcy.
You have a lot of folks that are retired.
They're not 65 -- can't go to Medicare.
They're not potentially -- -- -- Medicaid they're sitting in this space and Detroit taking a look -- we can't pair bills.
But if the -- hit an -- -- insurance exchanges are open.
Maybe maybe our people on a couple years can use the -- -- they'll be subsidized by the federal government and we don't have to pay.
Anymore what kind of being a -- that's gonna happen but -- that mean for the lot what is the need for the implementation of the clock.
I I think it has huge impact here because cities are clearly looking a way to shift some of the costs that they have.
To that the federal government -- the price tag.
For Obama care could skyrocket if this happens not only that union members and dead in the city employees whether they're retired or active.
A little bit nervous about what's going to happen and we don't know how obamacare is going to play out we don't know how the premiums are gonna look -- end up and remembered the White House.
A promise that premiums would go down so.
Well a lot of unions are very nervous about this and once again the price tag for the federal government could go up because if Detroit does this more than a lot of other cities -- into it as well.
Several points in Chicago -- -- -- -- city in a couple years that could look to do the very same thing.
It's interesting about that both sides with a different.
Thoughts about the cost of the bill right in premiums and what it means for everybody and the truth is is that we really don't know what happens to premiums until we know.
How many young people really join up because that's -- this bill is really based on getting the young people to really help offset some of the charges for the older population.
Yeah you see -- -- -- -- part of this conversation when -- debate over the health care really ends.
-- you -- having this conversation 2310.
Years from now where that most of the health care a lot in place but.
The government -- actually did work according to -- plan.
-- of people on -- We can't can pay for it ourselves.
And the debate is continuing.
I and I think this debate will go on for a while because in theory one party will be able to say I told you so but it.
-- like that in both parties are gonna take out positive and negative negative aspects of the law as far as the young people.
Well that's why the Obama -- has approached the NFL and the NBA because they need to make Obama -- cool so that young men in particular will sign up for that but.
But will they will they pay hundreds of dollars to get health -- coverage instead of just risking it.
And then if they get hurt go to the emergence you -- that's the big question and we don't know the answer that you.
It's the -- return on a very interesting piece -- when our viewers say this from last week they cope out some of these young -- In Portland Oregon and one of the guys going to bike shop -- was like listen I'm playing Battlestar Galactica.
-- -- on time like I'm not researching health care he split not likely candidate.
So it could just thought that -- And what and one thing to remember is that that.
The individual mandate penalty.
Is only about a hundred dollars in the first year so a lot of new Nightline and risk it and that's even if the IRS goes after them which of course would lead to negative headlines for -- -- -- Should be very interesting yankees it could be a couple years before you see it and then this administration's onto a new one but thank you very much -- continue to look at both the politics and the policy in the weeks to come.
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