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Turning now to the growing chaos in Egypt sophomore season.
Reporters continuing their demonstrations in the face of threats by -- growing crackdown by the military.
This comes after a very deadly weekend on the streets in Egypt after more than seventy people were killed in bloody clashes.
Richard and Alice the former spokesperson or ambassador to the UN -- Fox News contributor Richard good to see today.
-- thanks for having me.
I -- make of the developments over the weekend and the fact that as secretary of state John Kerry now speaking out calling this a pivotal moment for the people of Egypt's.
I think we've had several pivotal moments for the people of Egypt I I think what we really solid in the last week is that hope is not a policy.
We hopes that Mubarak would govern differently and I'm sure in more freedoms.
We hope that the -- -- would triumphed in elections over the islamists.
We've hoped that the Muslim Brotherhood would govern differently and not so much from a religious senator.
And we need to move from beyond just hoping about policy in dealing with the realities of the situation the realities are ugly they're difficult but we.
Our policy the United States policy needs to deal with the realities on the ground.
Well and how we do that when the administration says it's not gonna make a determination about whether or not this -- a coup that it's not our national interest to do that of course if we did it would limit the types of aid and things that we -- send.
Although we have delayed shipment of some F sixteens.
-- all over there and -- -- folks on both sides in that who think it's a good or bad idea it's delayed that are were -- -- all together.
I mean what is our US policy here.
Well I think we've got to go back to a US policy where we separate the mosque.
From from you know.
Like church and state how we called the mosque from the state we need -- be able to say that.
It hasn't worked and and I think it's a very hard.
Arguments to to push forward it doesn't always go over well.
But I think that the United States has sent very mixed messages and -- confusing message to the air world.
And we certainly when you're talking about our foreign aid and the F sixteens as the example that you just brought up.
The time to kind of pull back US aid would have then when we had an Islamist government in power -- -- yet.
Now that we have a government that is trying to push the islamists back.
I'm much more of the Jeane Kirkpatrick.
Camp where I think the reality on the ground as.
It's tough to say but we've had more peace when the islamists have not been in control.
So we are sending a great deal -- -- -- move on Capitol Hill bipartisan support this both the house and senate to make that eight more transparent so people know where the money is going.
In the meantime there are those who say if we completely withdraw our aid or cut it back in a significant way from -- the military.
Or it be humanitarian assistance those kinds of things that we're gonna lose our ability to in any way influence the conversation and what happens there in Egypt.
Is that are -- that we do have interests in the region there's Israel -- their other things that we do have to think about.
I think I think both.
Scenarios that you just laid out are exactly true but there -- a middle ground and we should be able to say.
Why do we allow countries to assume that they're gonna automatically get all of our money I think that there is a difference here.
Between the Rand Paul and the Chris Christie formula.
When talking about that some of these national security issues I think there's a middle ground and we need to be able to put conditions on our aid to be able to say to other countries.
The -- is not and less and if you don't kind of move towards our goals of greater democracy not just an election.
But greater freedoms and democracy then our -- is going to be conditional.
And quickly want to ask you after they the death told continues to rise there many in the Muslim Brotherhood say that they are gonna go away peacefully that they will fight to the dad for them it is back kind of choice.
How does this resolve.
It's a very scary situation and certainly we should be condemning out front.
Any type of killings -- violence.
And we should be putting pressure on that indeed the military to make sure that they understand that there are long term implications for what their short term.
Security decisions are doing.
Richard good to see you thank you so much for your time.
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