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The Obama administration sticking to its line -- in the IRS targeting a phony scandal.
Just yesterday Treasury Secretary -- -- defending president Obama's repeated use of the word.
-- I think that the piece of -- that the president was referring to his.
After weeks and we accident investigations.
IG investigations Justice Department investigations congressional hearings.
There's no evidence that any political involvement in the decisions leading up to that situation.
So the attempts to continue to raise this question in the absence of any evidence.
Is what he is referring to -- and I think -- you know politics being what it is -- -- it will probably continue but it.
We have to distinguish reality from the part that is funny.
-- -- President Reagan Pat Buchanan joins a spitting in fact they grabbed.
Well I -- just went through a -- -- rather just went through a litany of different investigations none of which is I understand has been completed but nonetheless -- I'm going.
Your thoughts about what the secretary and president Bob I in his Press Secretary -- saying about phony scandals essentially.
-- personally say that bringing up the leadership institute first order wasn't in thirty years Clare Boothe Luce institute which I'm familiar worth.
First -- -- in twenty years booked up and coming in 2011.
Hundred Tea Party groups slow walked beginning in 2000 can.
This is done for three years this is no accident this is clearly some kind of policy directive and I think it's going forward as a consequence.
Basically the vendetta that's been conducted against the Tea Party starting back in 2010.
Where you where you would have thought listening to television that we're dealing with people trying to pull off a beer -- porch.
Now let me ask you -- money mentioned now about this idea before he scandal -- -- -- scandal the president knows it.
His numbers are going down the respect for the IR -- is going down people are following this story it's continuing along.
But they're not getting much help from the mainstream media because it doesn't fit the script.
I don't I stampedes that yeah this is why -- if someone accused me.
Being in the head of a government or agency or whatever having a phony scandal.
And I weren't completely blameless I would say you know what.
Let's get to the bottom let's let's really digging and let's really have that quote transparency and see what happened let's say identifying with the people are -- doing this.
Instead it's an instead of certain demean the people who have been wronged and -- as though they're -- making this up that it's phony -- -- women and I don't really haven't -- a full investigation but they are at least.
Really should be heard.
I would hope that representative -- shop would call for the entire file.
The audits of both of these institutions.
To see if it wants from some kind of random selection.
-- it was deliberately targeted because it does seem a little odd that they -- sudden we get targeted in 2011.
But I can tell you what gave Jack -- and yes the president are doing right now they're saying to themselves look.
This is a political problem now with some of our guys did some wrong.
What we got to do is get nothing more than what they subpoena and can get from us because they're out to -- adjust our administration our reputation.
This is sort of like something of a cover up they're not gonna give out any more information because they've concluded its political.
And basically they concluded that hurts them and they're not gonna cooperate.
Well I think -- very helpful if the IOS release.
And they can deploy and just give us a political numbers how many liberal groups and -- make concern -- -- during a particular period that would give us some idea and if it's if that book about the equal then we move to the next step whether or not that the IRS is disturbed targeting people -- -- legitimately -- and I think -- we don't next time I think targeting people for not -- just to be certain abuse of his bad.
But it would but the first question is whether it's political or not.
It has -- little -- or two Oklahoma very famous or not famous their very well known.
Respected conservative institutions -- album is known as any kind of radical leadership institute.
Clare Boothe Luce institute let me say the latter I've made small contributions to my sister speaks for them.
Two girls and women in colleges and things.
And the idea that they've been targeted I mean they -- it's a coincidence you're exactly right let's find out.
How many of these major institute political institutions liberal conservative progressive whatever.
Let's get the whole list out that's what represented device -- staff because he's a busy man ought to be good.
Yeah it -- you sort of mean to make me say whether these women are right or not they truly believe it and discern demean them -- -- like -- it's just phony.
You know is looser even to me say I I wouldn't do that would take them seriously investigated and see whether right or not.
But I wouldn't be dismissive on the business of day they truly believe that they have been -- -- then they Wear well I have been -- a little bit peculiar.
Know that the semi conservative that I -- I -- welcome and liberal group coming on has been targeted but that he it's insist -- state.
What you -- and where would you look at -- -- Jack Louis nation in send more.
This happens that's right we did the audits and they were random.
And let's have congress come on -- and take a look at the entire file.
And the paper trail of both these institutions.
And they want to show you a couple other respected liberal and moderate institutions.
We also -- it did because we do this every year etc.
-- -- -- -- -- We don't get the curious thing is and -- the president said this is very serious and you know that there's a very serious matter.
Then now he says it's phony -- the world happened between early may and now was so serious music together while -- at McCain tell me.
He's gone straight into political mode look I've been -- I was in Nixon's White House during Watergate I was -- -- Reuters during Iran Contra.
And I'll -- I can tell you the mindset over there right now is this their Stan.
Look it was a mess out there -- there are as -- -- -- they have done it.
We might have been B rating that Tea Party and cost it culturally or psychologically sure people didn't.
But now they're just trying to hurt us -- don't give them anything more and that's counterattack.
And that's what's going on in my judgment on the part of the -- in the United States it is hurting.
Him and it's hurting the IRS and I think that's one of the reasons you're getting the attitude we're getting from President Obama.
He is sinking in the polls and it's getting to it.
That's -- thank you.
Thank you -- it.