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Tonight the house oversight committee pushing for an investigation into knew yes -- and more accusations against CI RS.
This time groups who already have tax exempt status say the IRS targeted them.
One of those groups is a leadership institute is communications director at -- hunter joins us nice to see you -- Hi Dana thanks for having me don't tell me what your organization this.
So the -- is -- -- has been training conservatives since 1979.
We have more than a 140000 graduates are programs.
And that's why you're so surprising June 2011 when I rest kicked off the thirteen month audit track tax exempt status the -- does more than they're 50000 dollars in legal fees Democrat more than 23000.
Pages of paperwork.
Aren't you already had detected some status and this was an bought it right -- -- -- not applying -- exempt status is that correct apt.
Absolutely are hot it was about our existing tax exempt status and I'm sure of interest to the -- -- A -- from the Baltimore office instead of the now infamous Cincinnati IRS office.
It's not whether we like it -- not the IRS -- people all the time summons very legitimate studies a -- -- sun -- what makes you think that you're -- was unfair or was targeted because -- conservative.
What is -- things got -- the first is the time -- the I did up -- is an existing organization closely parallels the audits of all the new -- organizations.
Applying -- the tax that's for the first time.
This -- -- is that and you -- organization the Hawaii Tea Party with specifically asked about their relationship to the leadership institute.
And a turn over the training materials that they receive from last.
The -- is the nature of the question that we received from the IRS so -- -- their amazing telepathy occurring Democrat Claire asked opposites but -- something more going on behind the scenes.
Okay what are the questions that you thought were inappropriate or made you serve at least that make you suspicious this was.
An inappropriate political targeting.
-- wide range of questions and they started with the applications -- -- summer -- -- and -- physical work applications of our interns.
That ways that we advertised for more than 300 advantage that we host every year -- sample correspondence between employers and our staff members.
But instead of jobs dot com are -- job listings web site.
Do you know any other organization conservative or liberal gotcha questions that are similar to that because of this some of the quite if if liberal groups are targeted at these are questions liberal groups get that would be less alarming but -- -- -- not that's a big difference.
For -- it was the questions we haven't heard from another group but more importantly that link between Hamas and -- Hawaii Tea Party is that -- a link between the Baltimore -- says the Cincinnati -- says the connection being the leadership institute and the timing of the event.
Putting up with Hawaii needed to sit -- had geographical jump ahead.
So we I'd just like the other instead of organizations hosted treating event in Hawaii with the -- Tea Party we get out more than a hundred organizations across the country.
Every single -- -- But in this case the question.
Between Hawaii -- part he.
And between the leadership -- how they drew that line we'd love to know that and that's why we support the call for further investigation because -- -- the IRS has all the cards.
Do you intend to push for to be part of any of the is hearings -- Capitol Hill.
We've certainly any indication that health staff if you notice the open letter today from congressman nice and Jordan included a number of citations -- -- of our vice president he shared enough I'm not a like amount of information relating to our audit so we certainly intend to share experience.
To help others learn from that and more importantly to stand up for the hundreds of groups potentially around the country that are afraid to come forward about their products pretty -- the president -- -- I think it's incredibly interesting and I would love to see on the card played on the table on behalf of the IRS -- can start seeing what -- and when it happened and and more importantly who knew what when.
And terms by the fact that them that he and as the rest of his said he got dead -- -- essentially a -- sector -- and and also the Press Secretary.
Is dead anyway you know Pique your interest.
I think and in this case the question is for further investigation for more information to come out.
The only people who potentially benefit I the American taxpayers who deserve to know what the IRS is doing.
The only people who are potentially hurt are the -- -- and the Obama administration so in this case I'm happy to sat with the taxpayers and say that we need to have more information.
Adding thank you good luck.
And it isn't just isn't visited the president of another conservative group -- street and by the IRS pure and simple harassment.
Michelle Easton from the Clare Boothe Luce policy is -- -- just nice to see you.
Hi Greta he -- you like your organization and is.
We -- twenty years ago to prepare and promote -- -- -- women leaders.
Right now did you view but now I haven't had an -- do you -- -- -- exemption and then they've initiating garrison issued an audit audit insurance station.
Yes it was January -- eleven I got a call.
From an agent enrichment not Cincinnati saying they had selected 2008.
To audit us.
And I had never I never thought it was a coincidence first that they selected 2008.
Which was a year.
I took six weeks off went off the payroll resigned temporarily to work for Sarah Palin and I never thought it was coincidence that they selected 2011.
The year so important in the timing of -- our country's leadership and then suddenly have a few months to go all this information came out about the improper actions of the iris and the pattern of harassment and I today.
It wasn't a coincidence.
I attorney Greta I'm extraordinarily careful I have been for twenty years and an -- of us as far as I could see was -- -- arrest and.
Video and no lawyer and even as a taxpayer know that the IRS -- -- so lots of people different times was it and what wasn't though that may think that was a political -- besides the time there was any questions that weren't usual.
Well you know when they tell you have an audit you I said right away.
-- you know why oh we can't share that information.
-- little -- somewhat -- complete oh we can't share that information was it -- well maybe it was random.
And they're so -- -- about it.
Let's tell us -- -- or if it's random.
How public drawing of the random once so.
So -- groups and individuals don't have that stigma that comes with an IRS audit and once we -- the parent of this what -- like it was time to.
Talk about it because people just so isolated hosted retires when they're audited but are learning there was a pattern there were huge numbers of conservative groups who were denied the exemption and I believe this probably large numbers of groups.
Who were audited unfairly as we -- there was not any reason the world to audit the Clare Boothe Luce policy institute and the first thing they ask for Greta.
In the first document requests vs -- and they asked the names of all of our contributors and the amounts of money they gave.
I can't get that that is private information and we had to fight and fight to secure the privacy of our supporters.
And I think David actually and they've been given case -- Supreme Court about asking for the names of their ship which ship.
You know which prevents -- -- this dividend -- was certainly right that this article is an NAACP neighbors Alabama was the case -- -- -- rob now.
The president has said.
That this stuff how much the IRS they're -- -- a phony scandal.
And you know what.
I say our -- tax system in America is based on the cooperation.
Of the American people.
But -- see now we've seen that the IRS is really a political institution and I say the IRS deserves the lack of confidence that American people really -- in it now.
President it presents rather dismissive and he thinks -- -- -- -- and others are just sort of you know you're in the arm and we are and everybody else's time -- to drumming has sucked that it Sicilian phony.
It's not gonna work the IRS is a huge bureaucracy that spreads fear in the hearts of individuals and organizations.
And when they gang up on one particular part.
Of -- people conservative people and conservative groups because nothing phony about that is abuse of governmental power.
Michelle thank you very much luck.
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