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Hogwash if he cared about protecting this country.
Maybe he wouldn't be in this gimme gimme gimme gimme all the money you have in Washington or don't -- -- and he'd be a little more fiscally responsive.
And know that the way we defend our country.
To what we have enough money for national defense is by being frugal and not by saying gimme gimme gimme all the time.
Gimme gimme gimme all the time is not a Ramones song.
That is why us.
Kentucky senator Rand Paul said that Chris Chris Chris Chris -- -- Chris Christie.
Governor of New Jersey.
Does as it relates to federal funds for his home state.
This is powered by an online -- Chris -- won't Chris -- although I hope.
As though we talk a little bit about the feud that rage yes with in there.
The Republican Party Rand Paul bear on Hannity with Sean Hannity firing back against Christie who sought to -- away.
To be dismissive of Paul another libertarian minded Republicans who expressed concerns about domestic surveillance by the NSA and other things there is in fact.
Though it is.
Often called by the establishment press is civil war within the Republican Party this is getting to be kind of a civil skirmish anyway as Republicans do battle any long -- battle comes to a head over security vs liberty how much of wish.
Is the appropriate mix it's consequential and may have something to do with your future and answer you probably ought to pay attention to that.
But we'll talk about that today.
But will also asked this question why -- Barack Obama think that the people of Chattanooga Tennessee.
Are good candidates to pack boxes for Amazon.
But not necessarily regulate their own elections he's going there today we will discuss that matter and of course.
The Virginia gubernatorial race is getting its spicy.
Movie as spicy as.
Allegations fly back and forth.
And we will have a conservative filmmakers here.
Who says that Terry McAuliffe.
And is obtaining visas.
Fun and profit was bad.
Shouldn't have done it.
And thinks this could be the issue that might turn the election in the Old Dominion -- that's a lot to cover.
That's a lot to cover you'd have to be Smart you have to be forward looking and -- have to be fast on your feet to do those things fortunately we have all of that -- one person.
And -- double breasted suit which is testament to you must be feeling -- if you're throwing down the double breasted suit is David Drucker.
The senior congressional correspondent for the Washington -- welcome good to be here aren't so.
Do you always go double breasted or is this like and do like what you're double breasted -- so it's.
After about twenty years right it's back in style -- there aren't always -- those Hillary gets a great look and so you know once or twice a week depending OK well let's roll another restaurant but if your being here 48 long -- -- -- double breasts and you look like you're guarding Al -- So this is true yeah the issue is not so much whether -- -- -- whether you're dressed in a sense.
Occupied -- space you occupy I'm gonna go with that -- -- the doctors like -- needed and I'm gonna go I just occupy a bigger space gap bigger space all right.
What about the -- that -- hall occupies.
It's interesting because he -- he Christi and back and forth Christie.
Tried to swat at him from a distance.
Which of course is the wrong thing to do.
If you are if you're saying we shouldn't listen to this guys like will you just gave him a total bandwidth to come out and and be in the public space.
How is this fight over domestic surveillance -- it.
So this is interesting I think -- Both of these gentlemen -- represented legitimate points of view in concerns.
And I don't know if either of them.
Are going about it in and -- anyway that is intellectually honest are consistent well so Chris.
Let me let me.
-- separate you know Chris Christie says basically the concern that the government.
Has overstepped its constitutional bounds in terms of surveillance he has an illegitimate concern.
Because of -- -- left and right now it's true that after a dozen years after nine elevenths the country has started to revisit how we reacted to 9/11.
But the idea that -- -- legitimate to be concerned about the constitution and whether we are overstepping.
Because we want to protect ourselves that's a very legitimate concern to have as we look ahead in the coming years to how we want to.
You know deal with both our freedoms in our desire to be secure on the other hand.
Rand Paul who's been very consistent in his concern about the constitution.
Regularly says that you do not have to trade freedom.
Protection and safety.
For freedom and -- -- to the constitution and that's just false there are times when you have to look at the the world in which we live in and you have to sacrifice.
At least to some degree our privacy.
And what level of freedom we have and politicians that run around and say.
President Obama did this when he was candidate Obama that it's a false choice well that's not true it's a very real -- that policy makers.
Have to make and so I think.
A really healthy debate for the country in a legitimate debate right now within the Republican party's.
Do we value security in a post 9/11 world sucks that were willing to give up some freedoms or.
Do we want to maintain a pre 9/11 level of freedom understanding that hit that could put us.
And our our safety someone at risk and what kind of country -- we want to have.
That the GOP is having that debate.
I think Democrats once they no longer occupy the white house with a leader will also have that debate but right now.
You know when you control the White House.
The president is the leader of the party and it's -- those sorts of internal divisions that we -- among Democrats by the way when George W.
Bush was president yeah.
Now Paul and other.
Conservative Republicans are trying to make Obama -- Part of the discussion.
The continuing resolution currently from the government in the absence of a budget that expires on the thirtieth of September -- -- on the show yesterday.
And basically laid out his argument that said any Republican and those are continuing resolution that funds obamacare.
Is for obamacare and it's funny obamacare.
This is shaping up there is great fury and great outrage growing among establishment Republicans.
That they're doing this because they have in mind doing a grand bargain with the president.
Debt deficit spending taxes.
And they think that by forcing this plan obamacare it's gonna cause problems but for -- and crews and others they're saying this is what the base wants this is what we want.
Why should we go for.
Look I I understand that it's a heartfelt position and it's one option if you want to try and stop obamacare.
We have no evidence to believe however that it's a winning option.
And I will see this in talking to Republicans not all of whom are your you know -- your your so called themselves Republicans.
Who don't like this strategy I think one of the questions I've been asking is.
Have crews -- Paul or rubio got enough in in the caucus -- and not just -- it's right it's -- Let me explain to you how we win the public and actually win and nobody has -- Actually done what -- said he is.
-- one of the things that is angering Republicans.
Who are opposed to the strategy is that the people pushing it.
Are drawing a bright line where none had existed all Republicans in congress down to -- man or woman.
Think obamacare should go away and it's -- but -- you have a small group -- No in unless you agree with us -- are actually four.
-- that undermines the republicans' ability to make their case against obamacare broadly.
And it also sets up.
Because if you want to start as a negotiating position that we want to defund obamacare.
How do you compromise with some meaningful concessions that the base might actually like.
If the argument was real opponents of Obama care would not fund it.
It write it and so that's that would be the question I had to conservatives who try to explain it we know this is part of -- negotiating position.
If you don't try you can't achieve anything won't -- the rhetoric is either Europe phony or you're not so I don't know I even go to the bases safe.
We're -- -- what we got something good.
Aren't lasting before -- ago Rand Paul -- is doing an interesting thing today.
Or has been doing it strengthening Lamar Alexander.
Who's a Republican from -- State's.
We were allowed to call him an establishment Republican I think yes more -- certainly more moderate kind of Republican frenetic craft a pragmatic but definitely is let's just right potentially double breasted certainly pragmatic.
But that's ahead.
That -- he got in today's real trouble for outing Rand Paul's support for him.
Ahead of what could be a difficult primary for imminent in an increasingly conservative volunteer state.
But Rand Paul gave him a way to get out of trouble.
Which was a support him in the school choice venture that he's doing which is an issue that Republicans of all stripes like today.
Is doing that with all in the -- the day -- -- -- Alexander.
I hope he wins another term I hope he gets reelected so and so and so by doing his act of atonement.
With the Paul -- in the conservatives in the Tea Party kinds Alexander seems to be back on good but it.
Yeah and it's actually -- Rand Paul shrewd and -- because he's actually trying to take his brand of politics.
And acquire followers and so he works with the establishment Republicans.
-- by all accounts pretty conservative records.
And he says I'm I'm not gonna come after all of you.
I just want you to also join me and things that I believe him.
And by the way this education issue is 881 for Republicans -- -- show.
You know middle class voters and suburban voters.
-- independents and soft partisans that they actually care about the concerns are real people have.
-- so it's a very Smart play on his part and he got some blowback.
On the Twitter -- for supporting Alexander but it shows that he's willing to not be quite as doctrinaire as the press likes to paint him.
To be layman might even call it pragmatic.
-- and really.
Hello all his car -- is probably the most shrewd tactical strategic Tea Party Republican in congress and I think more of them would be more successful if they follow his blueprint.
Okay well I would try to follow your blueprint -- look at our Tony says that.
Don't rest enough now and its style I think it works.
But if I stand behind -- man of -- principle exactly I will not then you are no pragmatists there winner it's about the fight it's not about winning.
We believe if that is true we believe that is true.
At the Washington examiner dude it's the right thing to do now here's the breaking news for you Internet -- -- in your longtime senator from Virginia and onetime segregationist.
Has has passed away he just -- -- the oldest living senator no relation to Robert C Byrd.
Who was also formally -- as they were also formerly Democrats.
So the president is heading down.
To Tennessee today.
To talk about packing peanuts and Amazon.
And fulfillment and all of that stuff but what about voting rights.
He's going to a city that's still covered by the voting rights act.
I should people.
-- have the right to regulate their -- elections as well as act Jeff -- is fulfillment.
We'll talk about that when we come back -- stick around.
But it looks like.
When John Kerry and negotiate worse seeking a lasting peace in the Middle East.
-- -- into the White House talked to President Obama.
And this is our flag.
Welcome back now if you think that it's tough to try to get the Israelis and Palestinians together for President Obama he's heading down.
To Chattanooga Tennessee a deep -- city a rare visit.
To the deep south about President Obama who does not spend a lot of time with in apple -- -- the deep south and -- sort of on the line between the two regions.
And as he goes down it is and did a controversy over.
The -- rights and the rights of states to regulate their -- elections.
What about that.
Quarterback that it's interest I hope you think it's an interesting thought and I hope that -- -- former Press Secretary -- Roy Blunt.
That makes him and Republican that makes the Republican -- -- can hire him he would try to get you to get stuff win races and things.
And the status here and so is -- -- -- do the same thing for you if you're Democrat.
He is a former spokesman for the he is attainable for higher -- SK ED snicker bar they gosh.
You know the fiftieth time yet generous to really come to -- -- was not the first.
So they here's what I wrote today that it -- -- -- only because we're making some changes to the Arab by the you'll get to see.
In the days to come but I've been laid so it's not there yet but it will be there come back and check it out and I pose this questions.
It is so logical question as president has to Chattanooga -- -- right for the people Chattanooga to be deemed exemplars of the new Obama economy pumping packing peanuts for Jeff -- -- But not advanced enough to regulate their -- elections the city of Chattanooga is still covered by the voting rights act.
Because they had it's complicated but there -- municipalities and counties and individual parts that are subject to special restrictions under the voting rights act because of civil rights abuses.
Back in those days back in the -- Ebert junior days.
But the president met yesterday.
With Al Sharpton the leader of the national council of the Raza are -- from the Urban League and other people and -- that he would do what he could to continue the enforcement.
Of the voting rights act in what are mostly sometimes it's Alaska to they're like I did I mean I could never quite figure that went out the last this subject before.
-- because it has.
Fairly large indigenous.
American kind of population but mostly southern states so -- the president why can't -- why -- the president Chattanooga can regulate its -- election.
So let's remember that Jim sensenbrenner who's a Republican in the house.
Strengthen the voting rights act after the Supreme Court hearing this was -- it was 2006.
We extended the voting -- act.
By huge bipartisan -- -- Majorities in both the house and senate signed by President Bush so it is not made a big thing out so really this is shouldn't be a partisan issue is that it's a partisan I don't know I don't but it really started to turn into one right thumb I think Republicans have been a little silent on -- but.
For the most part I think you're seeing some of them the right you know.
Basically hailing the Supreme Court hearing the fact -- -- ruling the fact is is that there are parts of this country where.
If -- minority.
If you're after American if you're in a Latino you are facing.
More harsher voting rights laws and -- in the -- yourself and you saw that after this ruling he saw in Florida Virginia many of these places where.
They started to enact harder rules to make it to -- they're getting great -- early voting.
They're making it -- very strict voting and voter ID laws right in and very stressed the issue meeting that you could be in Georgia and you could have you could be a gun owner.
Within -- with an idea that he's showing you can you can you own a gun and be able to vote.
But if you go to a private institution.
It's such as.
Or a private school a private school school I would yeah that would not work -- so you -- -- -- to -- government -- everyone believes in making sure that.
Voting is free fair and accessible and that it's in and that -- in the system is you know full of integrity.
But a lot of these days gone too far and I think you saw after this ruling that they went back to try to institute these.
-- voting rights laws that are making it harder for folks to vote not just African Americans Latinos but seniors.
Veterans to college students and -- -- putting Chattanooga aside this is a legitimate issue and I am glad the president -- tackling in LA Jim sensenbrenner.
I can't get a tablet today -- he's gonna talk about Amazon hiring people and those styrofoam packing peanuts you get all of your floor and -- -- -- -- loving and some packages that and they and they have the big air -- their security in the -- like together -- fun for the kids to pop.
But you're from Alabama and yes there and yeah Eric -- things that you -- home state should not be allowed to regulate its -- election because it will.
Probably do something racist.
I think he lets just go back to Chattanooga for if you look at generated via.
Chattanooga times free press this morning an editorial said on we apologize to the president we will not have southern hospitality for you to be down here.
-- we're still suffering from your last job creation though -- I think if you look at this he's going down and how this economic conversation.
People I was obviously pretty nice and welcoming and it's nice to president remembers -- this -- this.
But they they held a vote in 64% of people didn't want the president coming down it didn't want to -- Chattanooga to Kansas.
There have no idea how much I like it doesn't really sound like southern let me apologize and let them get -- -- -- that's crazy and how.
I like if I don't I will oxygen and -- intolerance for Chattanooga Tennessee.
I just -- news is -- is a very nice it's it's not as I like Knoxville more but in east Tennessee Chattanooga is is is -- is a nice place to big.
But what about the voting rights stuff I understand that people there don't like his economic policies.
But do you think this that it's right for the Chattanooga not to be under -- -- the it's a cloud because it says you're racist essentially what.
Being under the voting rights act says is that your two races to regulate your own elections.
Is it appropriate for Chattanooga or other places to still be under that's -- it.
I don't believe so I mean Doug and I entering this building today had to show ID you know we -- -- ready to get to the fifth floor here so why shouldn't we.
Protect was one of the more secret things we have in our democracy to make sure that the people.
There are voting are the ones who should -- because a lot of -- because they're not asking just what they're asking for Warren.
Government issued which I wouldn't think -- conservatives without a problem for this it.
-- -- type of government it's the idea okay and that's why bring up the fact that there you know that if you're a college student in a private institution you would have you would not be you would not be able to show that idea would not be it would not you would not be able to vote.
And so it's not so -- the issue of voter ID it's there's also.
Early voting that they're trying to get rid of crime scene day registration I mean there are another thing -- that that's all hope that same day registration is all that other television but.
But those are all saying is that everyone wants -- voting as a voting system that they can be proud of but we shouldn't be making it harder for people though we should be making and so a more easy for them to get the things he needs it to go in and register in this video -- -- -- quick.
-- -- -- to look where we are today's time I think we want the right people voting and usually rises to the right people people who are citizens here who have a lot of.
Well I think Jimenez I don't think you -- republic -- are all five qualifiers Helen -- Damon -- in the reality is is that there are many instances of voter fraud I mean that's spin it will -- we will too long we had to leave that there but we all agree Chattanooga is nice place to -- yeah.
Yeah -- -- -- national Nashville's all right it's okay it's pretty big it's kind of crap it.
The guys we think you've pretty good today will be that you and it's got into two.
-- tank says voting rights act was voted by a large majorities.
Because no -- wanted to be called racist.
Yup that's right that's why it -- it's also why.
It's not going to be reinstated because with the Supreme Court said my tank who follows -- wisely on Twitter.
What his -- said was a congress wanted to come up with a new formula to determine which states are the most racist.
Guess what's not coming up in congress a referendum on who the most racist -- -- Not going to happen and that's -- Sharpton and others know that the voting rights act is for all intents and purposes permanent the deep -- did.
And it's a shame that the he got the last work.
Yeah let's do it -- we're gonna take a quick break when we come back we will talk about.
The Virginia gubernatorial election.
And these it's not always everywhere you want to be -- stick -- He is on -- mission.
He wants to overturn Roe vs.
Wade in Virginia to make all abortions illegal -- -- even tried to -- the state board of -- to get his way.
I'm no one knows Terry like they do I destroyed below.
New jobs sensible thing is I'm a big believer if your way up front.
Scary scary scary.
-- -- Back with a look at the hard hitting it video discussion about the Virginia gubernatorial.
The first that you saw there I believe -- from the democratic party of Virginia.
Attacking conclusion aliases have monstrous being.
And then you saw.
It's a new movie a clip from a new movie called fast period.
And also the person was from Planned Parenthood the second one is from a new movie called fast scary.
From Citizens United.
And this is powered -- welcome back and you know David -- he is the president.
The aforementioned Citizens United they -- and because -- filmmakers is that a fair -- to just.
-- your existence lower conservative film while conservative.
You can -- you will what -- advocating positions we advocates positions.
We don't advocate the election or defeat.
Any candidate and that's very important thing in in his in this particular importance to say that's exactly right.
Over in our Supreme Court richter is important to note that even in -- -- we do not advocate the election or defeat of Terry McAuliffe.
We actually don't even mention the governor's race we don't mention he's a candidate for governor.
We don't -- -- -- -- we talk very specifically about Terry McAuliffe's.
Business acumen his business background folks watching may remember the king of -- the film that was made.
I -- again against -- -- last year and it was very effective because it had real people with their real stories.
How they were negatively affected by Mitt Romney and I as a businessman vampire this desperate what we try to do was tell the same stores Terry McAuliffe who likes to say he's a good businessman and that's why he should be elected governor and if you're gonna be governor your CEO of the state.
And what we're saying is let's look at these businesses let's actually take a look at Terry McAuliffe's.
Business acumen and what we find is a very troubling tale and that's what this film is really about.
Now where he's involved in a embroiled even in a controversy right now well the with the Republicans after.
Suffering with our controversies around Bob McDonnell governor of Virginia -- and loans and gifts.
In that amazed.
Many many including -- were amazed to see that.
It is now on the shoes now Minnesota's.
Probe into the obtaining the the procurement of -- And we saw that an official at the -- of Homeland Security.
Is -- Identified inspector general's report.
Is that also names Hillary Clinton's.
Tony Rodham didn't think you'd be seeing him so soon Tony Rodham got in trouble for hazel nuts in the past and McAuliffe.
For those who game the system to try to obtain visas.
-- the first -- Terry McAuliffe -- the first to admit he may he is made a living he has made his.
All of his wealth.
And using crony capitalism is I'd -- it which is to say he is positioned himself in politics.
To make connection between political leaders and business leaders and that's really how he's made his living isn't made a living employing people are creating jobs he's made -- business admitted to living being a deal maker.
That's just a little bit different.
That what I like to say is the difference between Mitt Romney's king of -- Film and our film is shows that really.
Mitt Romney was a successful businessman has opposed to Terry McAuliffe it does this guy is just a one off he's kind of a fast -- -- And that's what it is but that's but that's he he's not.
Does he holds himself out to be.
A long term producer of jobs I -- absolutely he makes feels that's his thing that.
What he said -- what this film shows and what what if people go too fast -- dot com they can watch the entire film in its entirety online.
They can order it on dvd we actually if you live in Virginia we have it be airing on August 1 for the first time on television -- India where on three different stations in Danville rebuilt.
So we're -- -- -- that they did this this out and actually one of them is in North Carolina that leads in the Virginia.
So we're very pleased with the -- that because.
That's for the first time -- TV stations running the film in its entirety.
And it's going to be multiple times over the next three months and we're very excited about about the film people need to go to fast very dot com and watch.
You heard he said that he wanted to be here that doesn't -- he thinks -- should now and we're glad that you made conference today thank you and I very much much you know where you get moving now.
We thank you for your time today.
On the -- with Jonathan Hunt is up next I just -- my column I did I made before the end of the show.
It's out -- -- -- is he's our law and now as we like to do every day.
-- only use the word from our friendships.
Otherwise if it looks like a drastic cut.
And the administration's sense of -- Who -- the Republicans will be accused of overreaching.
And shutting the government and -- just one word.
If everybody -- just leaving town why are we stuck here.