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-- to defund obamacare is getting heated with some members of the Republican Party call on the idea dumb other saying it is exactly what this country needs.
Now majority of house Republicans want to block funding for the president's health care law on October the first.
The point at which government funding must get renewed by congress now that could lead some say -- government shut down.
Others in the party are saying it's too politically risky senator Tom Coburn said.
It is quote not an achievable strategy and it just wouldn't work senator Richard -- called the threat of government shut down -- the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
But it -- a Republican senators have backed the push to -- on this including senator Ted Cruz.
Question I have asked.
Of my Republican colleagues over and over -- -- his what is your alternative.
If we simply sit here and uniquely do nothing or we can just another symbolic vote like the 394041.
Votes in the house.
To repeal obamacare that never going where.
We will be -- seating we will be surrendering.
To obamacare being -- permanent feature of the economy.
And that I think it reminds me of the advice of another Republican a message that was in fact delivered nearly forty years ago.
I became a Republican not because the parties where the same but precisely because they were different.
More than half of those who didn't vote.
Have been -- and say it no longer makes any difference which party wins.
Now some have taken another course.
There are some among us and I respect their views who suggest that that means an end to the Republican Party that we should form a new third party.
May I suggest an alternative to that.
Let's have a new first party.
A Republican Party raising the banner of bold colors no pale pastels.
A better instantly recognizable -- standing for certain values which will not be compromise.
So all the -- Republican Party be remembered her bold colors or pale pastels joining me now Florida senator Marco Rubio Senator Obama might -- to Syria.
Thank you Sean thanks for having me is that is this that moment that Reagan was describing back then.
It is because that we're not willing to -- draw a line in the sand on obamacare what is sure we willing to do that on.
I can't think -- a single thing that's affecting our economy negatives -- negatively more.
-- obamacare is right now this is not about shutting down a government as our opponents claim this is very simple this is about a whether we're gonna continue to pour money into a program.
That is basically eviscerate any American economy it is forcing people to go from full time work to part time work.
It's costing people -- health insurance that they have and are happy with it's costing them their existing relationship with the doctor that's been seen them for years.
It's hurting businesses from growing I -- this is just it's so damaging that even the employees union for the IRS the very people in charge of enforcing this law.
Are begging to be let out from under this law.
This is a critical moment and from our fellow Republicans I respect them all but look.
If we're not willing to fight on this issue what with issue are we willing to fight on my I I kind of feel the same way you do about it senator.
Senator Coburn by saying it's not as an achievable strategy just wouldn't work.
I think part of his remarks were dealing with the fact that the continuing resolution.
Some of the spending would be mandatory as a matter of fact a significant portion.
And only a small percentage of obamacare funding would be discretionary is their way around that.
There is of the house -- the house needs to pass they short term budget that has attached to it the bill to defund obamacare and its totality.
Now the argument he would make and others is that Harry Reid in the senate Democrats will never go for that.
But the reality of it is that once that bill comes over we're -- -- we shouldn't go for any budget that doesn't defund obamacare.
And then the only budget out there for us to consider would be the one that came over.
From the house beyond that I would say to you that as part of our -- -- resolution.
We can be fun for example setting up the exchanges we can -- the additional IRS workers there's a lot we can do but at the end of the day how can I go back to Florida.
And my fellow colleagues go back to their home state.
And look at people with a straight face and say we did everything we could to keep this law from hurting how can we say that to them.
If we vote for a budget that funds this -- and that's the fundamental choice before us what Mike Lee described it on this very program he said.
This is not about a government shut down because.
Our debt our obligation Social Security our military everything would be funded.
Except that's so right at that point.
If there's a government shutdown who would be responsible.
Well the -- who's threatened to shut down the government is the president and his democratic allies that they're basically saying is unless the budget funds obamacare they won't support it.
They're basically saying that unless we find Obama -- they are willing to shut down the government.
And I would submit to you that Obama -- is not more important.
That our country obamacare is not more important in our economy and it's their insistence on continuing to pour money into -- broken and failed experiment.
That is threatening -- government shut down not us -- Karl Rove was on the program last night and and he said it was the worst law that he's seen in our lifetime.
Meaning Obama -- a -- also point out something that I mentioned bought.
That is predicated on lies but he talked about -- this strategy verses he would rather use an alternative strategy.
What is your reaction -- that because I don't know what the alternative strategy debate.
Well look we're always open minded on alternative strategies that would work better but right now there isn't any right now the only strategy that I know -- with -- to obamacare is ours in terms of confronting -- and using this opportunity in September.
To defund this horrible law on the impact it's gonna have.
And I would say this -- -- this is not about Republicans vs Democrats anymore this is hurting all Americans when you have labor unions coming out against this.
When you have the -- union for the IRS workers coming out against this.
When you have the White House sending briefer is up to Capitol Hill to calm down nervous Democrats you realize how much this laws already hurting.
And how much more it's gonna hurt our country after October 1.
Look for me this is the last best chance we have to do this that we don't at least try to do this.
The impact on this gonna have on our economy has not thought it's gonna just be irreversible well and then it's costing billions of president -- ready.
We got rid of the employer mandate or delayed -- for a year that's costing.
While billion dollars -- for that -- just think about you think about the people that have health insurance now they're happy with that they're gonna lose that health insurance.
-- have a doctor they've been seeing for the last fifteen or twenty years there won't be able to keep going to that doctor think of working class Americans who right now working forty hours a week.
That because of Obama -- going to be cut back to 29 hours a week.
Think about the small businesses that want to expand and grow.
But are afraid to do so because that would trigger the obamacare mandate I've met these people I've talked to these people these are not billionaires these -- not millionaires these are hard working class Americans pour on the verge of being punished.
Because as you said this law was built on broken promises.
And promises it continues to break.
Every single day and look at Sarah -- hand who didn't get a waiver from Kathleen Sebelius which was a death sentence but for a a judge it take intervening -- -- case.
Let me ask you this senator since since the immigration bill was passed.
Polls have shown your support among Tea Party members in conservatives have gone down considerably.
You've taken a big hit.
In terms of your popularity because some people -- would remain very angry with you about it what is your reaction to that.
Why didn't do it for politics for obvious reasons as -- just outlining how a lot of people are upset about it I did -- because I thought it's important for this country to solve this problem.
As I've described you earlier by came on the show -- told -- -- my immigration plan was to allow eleven million people to stay here illegally.
We weren't gonna give -- many legalization but we weren't going to deport them depending on where they work they may or may not have to pay taxes.
They're not gonna get federal benefits but of this show but the emergency room and get free medical care.
Invite to -- and that we're not gonna do anything else for the border anything on.
-- I'm saying to you that's what we have today that's what's gonna stay in place and we don't do something and so my hope it continues to be that we can fix this problem.
Obviously I felt that in the senate we had to get the process started we did the best we could certainly the bill isn't perfect.
-- but I think it was a good way to start this process I hope the conservatives in the house will improve upon it and I think they deserve the space and the time to do it in a way they can support.
And I hope eventually we'll solve this problem look it's not the most important issue facing America obamacare is more important for example but it is an important issue and we can solve that we should try to.
If the house decides to do this incrementally where they would first.
Secure the borders first which I think is the most important thing to do and we should be doing it anyway regardless of what what else happens.
-- -- say they they decide after the borders are secured and verified secured.
That they would allow legalization.
But not citizenship.
Because people didn't respect our laws and sovereignty could you support that well first of all I've always supported the incremental approach it was my preferred approach is not the direction.
In the senate wanted to go but.
If it was up to only me that's the direction we would have gone because I think you get a better product as a result of that.
Well you've outlined is complicated because the problem is that if you're going to legalize people which are never gonna allow them to ever access citizenship even twenty or thirty years from now.
The problem -- -- -- just -- one immigration issue with another immigration issue.
In the long term I think that position remains unattainable on on -- maintain a boy I think -- is gonna trigger a whole new debate.
And on immigration reform all over again my preference would be to deal -- this issue and a way that that actually not just has border security.
The 40% of our legal immigration are people that are over staying their bases.
You have to have a system to track them and just today we saw a report that there's a million people here from abroad we don't know whether they are that's got to be improved so we gotta do at all.
All right senator good to -- it thanks --
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