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So all the -- Republican Party be remembered her bold colors or help pass felt strongly now Florida senator Marco Rubio senator welcome back -- -- Syria.
Thank you Sean thanks for having me is that is this that moment that rate was describing back then.
It is because that we're not willing to -- draw a line in the sand on obamacare what is sure we willing to do that on.
I can't think -- a single thing that's affecting our economy negatives and negatively more.
Then obamacare is right now this is not about shutting down the government as our opponents claim this is very simple this is about a whether we're gonna continue to pour money into a program.
That is basically eviscerate -- American economy it is forcing people to go from full time work to part time work.
It's costing people -- health insurance that they have and are happy with it's costing them their existing relationship with the doctor that's been seen them for years.
It's hurting businesses from growing I -- this is just it's so damaging that even the employees union for the IRS the very people in charge of enforcing this law.
Are begging to be let out from under this law this is a critical moment and from -- fellow Republicans I respect them -- but look.
If we're not willing to fight on this issue what -- issue are we willing to fight on my I kind of feel the same way you do about it senator.
Senator Coburn by saying it's not as an achievable strategy just wouldn't work.
I think part of his remarks were dealing with the fact that the continuing resolution.
Some of this spending would be mandatory as a matter fact a significant portion.
And only a small percentage of obamacare funding would be discretionary is their way around that.
There is of the house -- -- the house needs to pass a short term budget that has attached to it the bill to defund obamacare and its totality.
Now the argument he would make and others is that Harry Reid in the senate Democrats will never go for that.
But the reality of it is that once that bill comes over we're not -- we shouldn't go for any budget that doesn't defund obamacare.
And then the only budget out there for us to consider would be the one that came over.
From the house beyond that I would say to you that as part of our -- -- resolution.
We can be fun for example setting up these changes we can defund the additional IRS workers.
There's a lot we can do but at the end of the day how can I go back to Florida.
And my fellow colleagues go back to their home state.
And look at people with a straight face and say we did everything we could to keep this -- from hurting how can we say that to them.
If we vote for a budget that funds this and that's the fundamental choice before us -- Mike Lee described it on this very program he said.
This is not about a government shut down because.
Our debt our obligations Social Security our military everything would be funded.
Except this -- right at that point.
If there's a government -- who would be responsible.
While the White House threatened to shut down a government is the president and his democratic allies that they're basically saying is unless the budget funds -- -- they won't support it.
They're basically saying that unless we find Obama -- they are willing to shut down the government.
And I would submit to you that Obama -- is not more important than our country Obama -- is not more important in our economy.
And it's their insistence on continuing to pour money into this broken and failed experiment.
That is threatening -- government -- not us.
Karl Rove was on the program last night and and he said it was the worst law that he's seen in our lifetime.
Meaning obamacare -- and also pointed out something that I mentioned bought.
That is predicated on lies.
But he talked about -- this strategy.
Verses he would rather use an alternative strategy.
What is your reaction of that because I don't know what the alternative strategy debate.
Well look we're always open minded on alternative strategies that would work better but right now there isn't any right now the only strategy that I know of -- -- -- to obamacare is ours in terms of confronting us and using this opportunity in September.
To defund this horrible law on the impact it's gonna have.
And I would say this to -- this is not about Republicans vs Democrats anymore this is hurting all Americans when you have -- labor unions coming out against us when you have the union for the IRS workers coming out against this.
When you have the White House sending briefer is up to Capitol Hill to calm down nervous Democrats you realize how much this laws already hurting.
And how much more it's gonna hurt our country after October 1.
For me this is the last best chance we have to do this that we don't at least try to do this.
The impact on this gonna have on our economy is not thought it's gonna just be irreversible well and then it's costing billions of president -- ready to.
We've got rid of the employer mandate or delayed -- per year that's costing.
-- billion dollars over that -- just think about.
You think about the people that have health insurance now on their happy with -- they're gonna lose that health insurance.
-- have a doctor they've been saying for the last fifteen or twenty years there won't be able to keep going to that doctor think of working class Americans who right now working forty hours a week.
-- because of Obama -- going to be cut back to 29 hours a week.
Think about the small businesses that want to expand and grow.
But are afraid to do so because that would trigger the obamacare mandate I've met these people I've talked to these people these are not billionaires these -- not millionaires these are hard working class Americans pour on the verge of being punished.
Because as you said this law was built on broken promises.
And promises it continues to break every single day and look at Sarah -- hand who didn't get a waiver from Kathleen Sebelius which was a death sentence but for me a judge it by intervening -- -- case.
Let me ask you this senator since since -- immigration bill was passed.
Polls have shown your support among Tea Party members and conservatives have gone down considerably.
You've taken a big hit.
In terms of your popularity because some people -- would remain very angry with you about it what is your reaction to that.
Why didn't do it for politics for obvious reasons as you're just outlining how a lot of people are upset about it I did -- because I thought it's important for this country to solve this problem.
As I've described you earlier by came on the show -- told -- -- my immigration plan was to allow eleven million people to stay here illegally.
We weren't gonna give -- any legalization but we weren't going to deport them depending on where they work they may or may not have to pay taxes.
They're not gonna get federal benefits but of this show but the emergency room -- get free medical care.
-- -- that we're not gonna do anything else for the border anything on.
-- I'm saying to you that's what we have today that's what's gonna stay in place and we don't do something.
And so my hope it continues to be that we can fix this problem.
Obviously I felt that in the senate we had to get the process started we did the best we could certainly the bill isn't perfect.
-- but I think it was a good way to start this process I hope the conservatives in the house will improve upon it and I think they deserve the space and the time to do it in a way they can support.
And I hope eventually we'll solve this problem look it's not the most important issue facing America obamacare is more important for example but it is an important issue and we can solve it we should try to if.
The house decides to do this incrementally where they would first.
Secure the borders first which I think is the most important thing to do and we should be doing it anyway regardless of what what else happens.
-- -- say they they decide after the borders are secured and verified secured.
That they would allow legalization.
But not citizenship.
Because people didn't respect our laws and sovereignty could you support that well first of all I've always supported the incremental approach it was my preferred approach is not the direction.
The senate wanted to go but.
If it was up to only me that's the direction we would have gone because I think you get a better product as a result of that.
Well you've outlined this complicated because the problem is that if you're going to legalize people which are never gonna allow them to ever access citizenship even twenty or thirty years from now.
The problem -- -- -- just -- one immigration issue with another immigration issue.
In the long term I think that position remains unattainable on on -- and maintain a -- I think -- is gonna trigger a whole new debate.
And on immigration reform all over again my preference would be to deal -- this issue and a way that that actually not just has border security.
The 40% of our legal immigration are people that are over staying their bases.
You have to have a system to track them and just today we saw a report -- there's a million people here from abroad we don't know whether they are that's got to be improved so we gotta do at all.
All right senator good to -- -- -- to bail us thank you shine coming up.
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