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Yet -- it's inching last year that ahead of cyber command -- ahead of -- and I say spoke at this conference -- big gathering a Packers this upcoming weekend called Defcon.
So largest in the world and last year they had record breaking numbers about thirteen thousand people.
And interestingly the temperature -- was.
He was very well received in his you know it's always awkward relationship between the government in the military and the hacking US hacking community.
But a porcelain -- -- he's speaking is something called black halogen he'd be familiar with.
-- for viewers it's black cat sponsored by a lot of that he huge.
-- IBM Cisco's these sorts of companies he'd expect the kind of high standard of behavior but actually this year that you know this week Edwards is speaking at that conference.
And he was tackled and had eggs being -- -- so.
Not exactly the best form ho hum.
He's not speaking at this conference -- weekend to the best of my knowledge and additionally in the past has been -- it's been a great space whereas governor this government officials could mingle with.
The very best and brightest -- hacking community -- kind of like.
Everyone checks their skills -- the door is Robert -- her collaborate discuss talk about shared interests and shared concerns.
But unfortunately in the backlash of the -- situation.
I think that's probably -- -- -- to speculate you know I hate to speculate but.
-- I expect that drove fueled a lot of the reaction to Edwards.
You know bank Bryant sat trapped this week which is a shame.
Yes they were -- the website right now Defcon you can see it what's interesting to me -- as it is a situation where.
You could theoretically have a criminal checking his ideas -- you as you put it and a law enforcement agent checking their -- -- the door and collaborating in the same room sitting side by side.
It is kind of a unique very fine line when you have.
Law enforcement potentially criminals all the same.
Hacking conference I mean that to me we think -- -- -- bank robbing Kong China conference and in some respects.
Funny you -- yeah.
-- big robbers together in the NN eight is trying to track him down in their own president talk about bank robbing.
IRA is gonna Wear -- it regulated as a hacking conference in my nature acting and -- -- offensive towards one of our foes around the world is.
Is potentially harm.
-- to us.
-- and that's why it's actually very important because we really need to get the best and the brightest there's got to be much better engagement are reached the hacking community -- refined so far behind in national defense on that front -- it is a battle space -- is a battle space it needs to be taken seriously.
Right now we just really do not have a joined up efforts so I applied the NSA out -- I'd -- it is certain conference play it clear that timing isn't great you've got there was a huge -- of brouhaha as you'd expect lots of chatter -- -- -- hackers about.
The -- information these are all -- things that they get concerned about and some of them are activists about.
But we really do need to get you know there's so many talented people -- -- it's wrong to assume.
The distributor hacker it means you're unpatriotic -- he wouldn't fight for your family or four.
Your neighbors your hacker in the keyboard next -- you know there are a lot of it honorable hackers out there.
-- hit the event this weekend it is a lot of fun -- claimant in the bank -- his -- -- -- events -- is pick locking.
It says picking locks kits for that -- way to do it.
But you know they do expose a lot of important vulnerabilities one about -- -- really useful -- last year was.
There's lots popular seeks out there available -- very common outlets like.
Wal-Mart or target these sorts of places that people are using to keep there firearms -- at home thinking that they're safe from children.
But what's on the younger hackers demonstrated is that using -- -- McDonald's -- paper -- these are two things they were able to get -- the seats so.
I'm in that sense that I doing sort of a public duty alerting families the fact that you know that -- prob true a lot on it might not be Sissy for -- -- I'm not so worried about that because of what -- Smart enough.
To use a stride that I had to take to get into a state to get a guy I suspect he probably thought -- some -- else but I didn't really being used.
Yeah yeah all of I think the bigger issue from.
You never know those guys -- a -- -- Yeah I think you know my thing is the bigger -- all about a whole hacking situation -- that you know you've you've got a significant problem out there that we're all facing we ought to deal with every day in there and of course it now with the -- situation amid.
It's pertinent always talk about it's nothing it's going away and their phones are being -- now -- cars.
-- -- car -- -- is being -- are being hacked so it's something the wrong maybe dealing with for the years to come that's for sure.
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