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-- -- -- So I don't there are apparently the reports that there aren't soaring number of Americans him enunciated and their citizenship and moving to other countries.
What -- thoughts about that.
Well people are very discouraged by everything that's happening in this country we have a lack of leadership we don't have any leadership at the top and people are very very discouraged so well that's surprising perhaps when you think about it it's not so surprising.
Is there I mean would you ever consider anything like that I mean is it what it ever gets so bad for someone like you that you did at the thought -- even.
Cross your mind.
You know I would never consider it no matter how bad it gets and it's pretty bad.
But I would not consider that now.
I know -- sixteen seems like a long time away but with everyone -- Iowa last weekend.
Including yourself let me ask you a few questions about 2060.
First of what are your thoughts about Rand -- -- Rand Paul and senator Ted Cruz both serve in the Tea Party side of the Republican Party.
Well they're both interesting guys and they've got something to say and everybody has something to say I guess but some of their ideas are good I met.
Actually Ted -- the other day for the first time in Iowa.
I thought he was a terrific guy I've met his father also terrific and we had a great conversation.
What is it going to take -- the Republicans to win back the White House in 2016.
It's going to take the perfect candidate.
Tough Smart compassionate.
If you don't have the perfect candidate.
Hillary will be president I assume she's going to get the nomination it looks that way I mean assuming good health and lots of other things.
But it certainly would seem that Hillary's getting the nomination and she's going to be tough to beat actually she'll be tougher to beat -- President Obama in my opinion so.
They need the perfect candidate.
I took questions -- Massa first one is out what -- Hillary.
Clinton presidency look like and then the second one is who could beater.
Well a lot of things I mean we're dealing with years away and it's very hard to say who can be there could be a person that has an emerging could be somebody that we're talking about it could be.
A lot of different people may be.
But I think she's going to be tough what would it looked like probably very similar to what we have right now.
Would she be more afraid President Bill Clinton -- or more President Obama like -- isn't there much of a distinction or difference.
Well it's impossible to say what somebody's going to be like you don't know how they gonna react under pressure they'll be tremendous pressure.
The country is under tremendous financial strain we 017 trillion dollars.
That's a tremendous strain in this country -- You never know how somebody's going to be.
You'll have to see they'll be tested under great pressure that country will be under tremendous pressure by that time.
You'll probably have 22 trillion dollars in debt.
That's a lot for people to handle so you can't really say how they're going to do it you never really know until -- tested.
In many people would say that the last election that governor Romney ran -- focus solely on economics and that in some ways the social issues derailed -- -- the social issues raised by.
Senator Rick Santorum.
-- sixteen do you see this serve whereas for as you look into the future as an economic grazer will social issues also be important.
Well actually I don't think governor Romney did run on economics I think he -- run an economics that would have been -- stronger point and I don't think we really.
Talked about or he talked about a look the fact is he didn't resonate with the people and he's a good man he's a good guy he's a friend of mine.
But on four and he'll be the first to admit he didn't resonate with the people did resonate with the voters.
And that's what happens now.
I don't think he talked enough about economics and making the country great again.
I think it's probably going to be more about economics in the future because of our tremendous debt and our tremendous deficits.
What what you expected he would run again make it a third go around then.
I used -- about governor Romney I don't think's out now I don't think so at all I think he's added.
I don't think so I don't think he'd want to do it.
And I think now it's certainly -- time for picking somebody as I said in order to win.
The Republicans -- the Republicans are going to need the perfect candidate.
I was asked to the other day out because of people and obviously see that I interview you often.
Whether or not I thought that -- were serious about running MIA and I said my guest says.
Donald Trump wakes up and thinks I can do bigger and better videos than anybody -- and so that you attempted.
But I think there's also little -- -- you think like you like to mess with our heads in the meeting like to play yes MIA half -- part right -- -- -- Well I don't like to mess -- anyone's heads I do think I can make fabulous deals for the country I think I could make the country great again I think I could make the country rich again.
I don't think I'd be cutting social security and Medicare and Medicaid I think what I do.
Is make the country so rich you wouldn't have to bother I would certainly try and stop the fraud and abuse but you know when I look at some of the things that the Republicans and in certain cases the Democrats say.
That's not about greatness -- what you have to do is you have to make this country great again.
-- need to sell one it would business experience and and whether it's Republican or Democrat is that's so critical or can someone come out of policy.
When you never know where they come from I mean people -- policy and you know what you can you can emerge as being a great.
Mind in terms of the business of the country the fact is our country is in serious economic trouble.
And you would ideally think that somebody coming out of business is done very well in business who understands -- Who understands payrolls who understands problems you would think somebody like that would be.
Good but that doesn't mean they can't come out -- policy maybe it's a combination of both.
-- Phillips and historically about the cancer been running or even those names get batted -- Governor Christie in the Republican Party -- senator Rand Paul.
Not real rich in terms of business and -- -- governor Romney who did but he hit the skids.
I'm so I'm thinking now what's your -- Canada.
Well I think governor Romney just didn't stress the business enough that was a strength and he should have gone out there and and really bragged about what he did -- -- he did a good job and what he should have done is just tell people this is what we can do and for some reason that just got lost it never really came out the -- should have come out.
I think that all of the candidates I know most of them they're good men I really think that all of the candidates as you mentioned you never know who it's going to be.
Somebody will emerge at some point but it's certainly early to be discussing you know.
I -- -- -- listening -- today somebody said it might be somebody that you've never even heard of look what happened with Barack Obama.
It was going to be Hillary it was an easy Hillary victory.
And Barack Obama emerged and you have to give him credit for that.
You mentioned president Bob I'm sure it's in the picture of him golf in an and I frankly I think that did note that this debt picture.
Is one that does the White House -- would've preferred.
Not to have out there and and actually -- -- -- are complicit in -- the camera people near the present copy your thought on this picture.
Well I thought he had a good chipping motion I know a lot about golf -- won many club championships I thought he had a good chipping motion so I was impressed and maybe -- like to hear that but his motion.
As a chipper looked very good.
I think the issue -- a little bit more you know what people -- unemployed the president talking about taking a bus tour talk about middle class in New York Pennsylvania last week.
And the fact that congress is on a five week vacation and they continuing resolution still not resolved -- approach in the debt ceiling and then we see although you know we don't begrudge people vacation but we see this picture of the president I think -- -- many Americans who don't have the ability go -- awful lot that.
Then -- not be so -- as you are.
It's a tough.
Kind of thing to be doing right now when you're having a problem like we're having in the country you see what's going on with Russia.
And snowed in you see what's going on with frankly China the way they just eating arrow lodged -- taken advantage of us like nobody's ever done before.
It's a little bit tough to see people take you -- not just talking about the president a lot of people are taking vacations right now.
That should be out there working for the country so it's not that easiest situation is no question about it.
And I don't think it looks great for the president to be taking this extended vacation right now -- Would you what do you take a vacation now if you were president -- in the house where the senate.
In light of all the demands on all those offices and where we stand.
Well I probably wouldn't I've never been a big vacation person when I take vacations I go to my places whether it's Doral in Miami you are.
Los Angeles on the ocean I mean I can do it and -- and and a half a day I've got my vacation.
So I really -- have a lot of different places I go to so that's a little bit unfair but I've never been one to take.
Three week extended vacations I think I'd go.
A little bit up here I just couldn't do it I wouldn't want to be -- way that long.
I noticed some of the politicians and the president certainly fits into that category they really like those long term vacations I don't get it.
Is there a disconnect between the very rich and the very poor in this country in a very rich person ever understand.
A very poor person's problems in order to be an effective president for him -- her.
I do I think so I absolutely think so in fact actually the people I resonate best with our poor people and people that are really blue collar.
That seems to be a base that I have I have a tremendous base those -- the people that like me because.
I discussed this country I know what's going wrong with this country we're losing our jobs to other countries.
We have countries that manipulate their currencies so incredibly well so much better than we could ever do.
And they take our jobs since my base and the people that like me best friends we are poor people and working people working class people and I'm very proud of that I think the people that like me the least of the rich people.
-- circle around -- to where we started out in terms does Donald Trump get up every morning as somewhat attempted to run.
-- as Donald Trump just does sort of put in and out there and we grabbed debate in the media.
I wanna see this country be great again it's far too early to think in terms of 4016 I am looking very much -- -- fourteen and helping a lot of my friends get into office and a lot of good people.
Get into office but.
2016 is an eternity that's so far away just as soon what I do want to see is this country be great again now.
If there's an opportunity if I think that there's a good shot of actually winning and actually doing something great for the country.
I would certainly consider it but it's far too early to think about that -- That is -- thank you.
Thank you very much.