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-- it is very serious or adolescent unfold right now and the breaking news out of Egypt we showed you moments ago US secretary of state John Kerry.
-- -- the United States strongly condemns the violence that is playing out on the street right now.
The bloodshed in -- the numbers are rising in so many cities.
All around Egypt Alexandria in Cairo.
Of those dead in the streets joining me now on the phone.
Is Republican senator from South Carolina Lindsey Graham.
Who recently returned from Egypt with Senator John McCain senator Graham thank you so much for being with us today welcome acting -- You know you just heard John Kerry you for the White House is condemning the violence that's happening in the streets what's your take on on what we're seeing play out today.
Well first question does that matter dresses in -- -- that.
You go to Hilton and the pocketbook at home -- this continues and there's more violence in Egypt -- failed state is skyrocket now or prices.
The Suez Canal that State's vital economic Carter -- that part of the world.
Our military use that al-Qaeda affiliate he actually create that -- state.
And it policy into the peace treaty between Israel and major problems forty years it's been a source of stability though.
The stakes are incredibly high from our pocket TARP that's -- Israel.
And all the way to stop this is for America complete this is another example lady from doesn't work.
Yeah I spoke earlier with colonel Ralph Peters in the and he said you know off and -- he feels that the White House news so.
Read more yeah they -- in this case he feels like he wants them to hang back a bit.
And he doesn't want them to basically speak out against the military I think that's one of his peers is that they that they will speak out against the military and we did hear sort of things around the edges in some ways about that from John Kerry and also from the White House spokesman in terms of talking about.
You know respecting the outcome of the election we know which -- Mohamed -- understanding the protesters in the street you know how do we characterize as a nation.
Where we stand up yes.
Well we stand for free and fair election we don't stand for Bob -- We stand for the rule long not the rule of gun the Muslim Brotherhood backlash which real it is there they took the Pakistani Islamic.
Under the once wrote -- -- read their mandate the best way to deal with the brotherhood.
Is to bring about stability in order to have an election and they'll get pretty that the ballot box.
The worst way to deal with the brother that is try to put a ball in jail and ignore the fact that date this the best way to stop this problem.
Is to create -- Dow lost between now groups in the country having new constitution and -- election.
Horse he would get beat badly to grow up for reelection.
They're gonna wind up -- the -- -- and people in the bill or product.
React against the military so I hope the military Smart enough not to overplay their hand.
And the best way for the rather that the market.
Not that big shot and thrown in jail but at the Egyptian people but -- -- -- And they would if there was another election.
Married -- some point you know you look at.
Who the voice of reason will be that emerges in this because that's that's what you need and in continuing -- about the phone calls that are going back and forth between it.
Tocqueville and John Kerry in an all of you who are they talking to in -- -- and Canada has stepped down and resign so I mean who -- cocktail.
Well we got past that got to hide it a group we talked a general with CPE new.
He's getting push to destroy -- other Muslim Brotherhood.
Problem is the best way to marginalize the plant is to beat them that the ballot box restore order the military should do bad.
Quickly have -- new constitution drafted and voted balances -- election they're element of people in jail that I think he could talk to.
But the worst possible thing is to continue the ballot and al-Qaeda is gonna take it and -- it is.
Or practice here go out and -- it's -- become a failed state you can't shoot your way.
Out of this spot and that's what -- told the brother that's what I told.
The Egyptian military ballots will not -- -- the solution that they won't Egyptian economy is gonna crumble -- the Egyptian economy crumbles.
The whole region -- -- economic -- Then that that is a very frightening picture senator and and just to hear you talk about Egypt.
As a potential failed states.
You know one of the greatest country is an agency allows our candidate and -- had a huge ally to United States -- decades and decades -- referred to lose its.
As a potentially failed states.
You know the cool.
Thing is there it is is there a positive.
Future is there any light at the end of the Tibetan area and -- out.
-- various we know they don't like Mubarak they don't like this strongman rule by Arab Spring -- real people are not -- live in the country.
For a few people have everything in most people have -- we now know they don't like a radical like they don't like Islamic fundamentals of the basket and certainly.
-- is that you start on democracy.
Bring about a quarter get people back into -- -- open election.
So felt like it -- that tunnel is that people are not gonna go back to military dictatorship and they don't like fundamentalist Islam that's good news.
For many -- Egypt staple have a new election.
Keep this alliance because if it becomes a failed state god help us solve essential is that a world of hurt they would be around about radical regime.
And it's only a matter of time to al-Qaeda -- -- something back.
Any chance of the last question when asked about al-Qaeda and and the opportunity for them -- Step into this -- him -- and the Suez can now is of great concern obviously.
What if anything do you -- -- is America's role in trying to you know fill that vacuum and keep things stable so that that doesn't happen.
State you know our friends are afraid -- our enemies are told we've lost a lot of standing.
This is -- -- but the president now went over that the White House's request to deliver a message that the military that we expect you to transition to that they control.
And not that the brotherhood overplayed their hand.
This backlash against in Israel but -- all -- way out of this spot.
Is -- new constitution and elections -- that this is the test of American leadership from things got -- tower road to Damascus.
We're we're itself Baghdad were spilling across the board.
Of almost foreign policy is now working the mideast is.
It's it's literally and playing to the biggest prize of all that Egypt if we lose Egypt to Egypt the company built fractured state.
I just cannot imagine what Israel speak it looks like.
And a B and Cindy -- -- Hillary Clinton has to say in the upcoming foreign policy speeches about how things are going in this this region as well senator Lindsey Graham thank you so much good attacks user.
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