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Was going on -- -- he says you know when he gets this hot.
People think the rules don't apply.
So I think on shark week -- everything you said let us this Paula -- stuff it's not true at last in the years.
I want to start by reading a little comment from MC Brian he says I sure wish I work Charles tonight -- -- extremely beautiful and brilliant women confess that I asked him.
It's in my country.
If we didn't -- This one's coming up on let's finish let's talk a little bit more about each because I felt like there -- so much more that we can discuss as we've been talking about the violence today latest reports at least 300 people killed there including dozens of police officers and hundreds of civilians from what we understand right now.
The administration today continued its line that it's not deciding whether or not -- -- which obviously would effects of foreign aid.
Do you think it's -- -- they're going to have to.
-- -- -- just continue in this holding pattern where we're not calling it until we're not -- -- Monica if -- Located in the hot withholding aid and that would be a terrible outcomes so I think that they are doing the right thing had a I don't know I don't understand argument against.
What they're doing unless you want to withdraw the aid.
Which is primarily to maintain a relationship with Israel so I don't -- I don't know.
You know why why anybody would be pressuring them -- know there are people who are pressuring them I don't understand the motivations are.
-- the interest White House hasn't Carson what the army is since Israel.
He and -- that being you know a rare case of so you can count on when it comes in Israel in the past at least and done secondly fighting terror you know that they've they've agreed.
Two you used their power to fight terrorists.
And you know I think the administration is -- fearful of losing either of us.
But it's not just Israel remember the biggest economic supporters of the regime today.
He needs -- there's not the United States is to go states and the saudis and kuwaitis the concerns are pouring money and and the reason is they are not exactly Israel lovers.
The reason is that Egypt has always been there.
You know the path breaking state always leading state Hillary agent -- goes the rest of the Arab world.
Tends to go and if it gets taken over by the brotherhood.
Then the whole region -- to go for Arabs for Jordan for -- of those allies.
Is in jeopardy and I think that's the reason.
I I I'm not even sure that weather because cool.
Is an issue anymore it was for the first few weeks afterward but I do you think that when things come down and we -- -- on this a little bit.
We really ought to change a lot of this is a very stupid -- yes we -- -- generally cut -- -- if there's a -- Overthrowing democratically elected government but we have to give the administration leeway is an obvious cases like he's in there and I would even say like -- Where the reason that we had to -- the French in the emergency rescue these days a year earlier we had cut off aid to because it was similar -- And had no way to help the government that was about to be overrun.
By the islamists so.
You know we change our laws and the president have -- -- enough to have this ridiculous.
You know -- a dictionary discussion for a month.
There were several things that senator Lindsey Graham Republican from South Carolina has been very involved in this has traveled over there recently.
Pointed out today expressing a lot of concern about the volatility the violence.
He's that a significant portion of oil on world markets comes from this region -- instability particularly as it relates to controlled Suez Canal could have a negative economic fact.
Across the world at a time when a lot of economies are struggling including our own.
If I -- your -- would seem to remember about eight Egypt is at its its economy and that's about.
That is imploding so it's not just it's a national security issue but it's also an economic issue.
For the region.
For us and and it's you mentioned the oil issue -- mentioning Lindsey Graham and Senator McCain going back to your question about John.
About you know the -- and tornado mean I do think that.
Does voices we'll continue to be will continue to hear them on the hill.
This this flight canceled continue to come come under attack for not calling -- Grimm also today a failed state in Egypt is al-Qaeda is dream come true.
Egypt which has been a source of stability for American national security -- could become a platform for the spread of radical Islam.
Right that's where we have this tremendous interest.
And I think why -- -- -- neighboring Arabs have if you look at North Africa into museum which is a very secular state they have -- Islam as a government it's a moderate line.
You've got all of those influences in Libya the best hope for the outcome in Egypt.
There's something like what happened in Turkey in the seventy years after that -- resolution on the first world war.
We had a secular government.
The army would step back he didn't -- directly but the army considered itself the guarantor of the state -- of secularism.
And they would have elected governments have your various stripes but if any of them nowhere -- clip ever overstepped the line.
And try to impose either islamists are Communists or other kinds of rules it would step in -- loose and he would ever want.
Who's a -- Islamist tenuous sort of neutralized.
The army but that's how Egypt the Egyptian army seasons -- -- the guarantor of the state of secularism.
And we believe in secularism we really don't wanna see the intolerance.
At the brotherhood would bring so I'm afraid -- -- newscast with the army.
Yeah every time that no matter who is in the White House this time of year they always go on vacation and it's something that every president I'm -- needs a vacation more than the rest of us feel like we need a vacation and of course he's being briefed the entire time that he's gone.
It's not like he's not involved with this but we're getting a lot of folks playing in.
Talking about the president being on vacation meta data says it's nice that Obama can be eating fried seafood -- relaxing and Martha's Vineyard while the Middle East is on fire.
And he always half.
To balance those perceptions.
I would I hate I've never gonna pick on a present for being on vacation I think that's ridiculous however on a broader level and jumping -- charles' point.
This and -- it's the candidate to Asia.
This this is for president announced over a year ago that we're not we're gonna kind of leave the Middle East behind.
And pivot towards Asia and that's where our from the focus of our national security and -- economic policies are going to be.
Well did what war shows -- and the implosion Egypt.
And I would let's throw into the mix here Syria -- don't forget opposition that that's something that's imploding as well.
And the opposition there is increasingly being taken over and controlled not totally control it in -- influenced by.
By al-Qaeda type force -- an al-Qaeda forces.
Mean you've got you've got you've got two countries.
On the verge of imploding -- in the Middle East this is dangerous and something that you think he needs to be more on down on the forefront of.
So anyway and -- on a vacation front he can work.
Anywhere he has so it doesn't really matter you can get into an issue whether he she wouldn't be in Martha's Vineyard.
You know one of the wealthiest places in the world -- the country's suffering I think that's probably a bigger issue he can actually respond to what's going on in the Middle East I don't think.
That's a problem I just kind of have a different view of what the United States can do in the Middle East I think of their forces.
Acting -- that are beyond anything that this country can have control over on one of them is the uprising of people and you know when you have the egyptians uprising against Mubarak.
The way that they did even if we it was in our interest to keep American power which I think it was there wasn't really a lot we can do about it.
Is set you know and and I think Obama's gotten a lot of criticism.
From both directions you know you -- he didn't support -- enough for you supported weren't too much.
Or you know let at the end of the day it doesn't really make any difference because they ships and people organ and do what they were gonna do and -- wanna Mubarak.
Gone -- -- we were gonna intervene militarily which.
Obviously would have backfired on us and I think you can go from country to country -- kind of see this happening where.
Because of social media or whatever it is they're some they're these -- these forces that I don't know that we have a lot of control over there's some people that are also I'm writing in to say.
To bring of the keystone pipeline and whether this crisis in the Middle East is going to put more pressure on the president to -- it.
I hear the US.
Well there is a contradiction in the policy.
Of a president who says he wants to pivot to Asia because that's where the future as well our president.
He's completely linked to Middle East oil and -- in North America we have this unbelievable.
Gifted sort of a golden goose that we have discovered.
Through the fracking techniques and we have become.
The new growth centers in new Saudi Arabia the world for.
Well imagine guys that he would only allow private industry.
To unleash and I mean the pipeline the -- -- a pipeline is one example of restrictions on drilling.
We got this incredible opportunity Mexico.
Which nationalize its oil industry eighty years ago has just announced to -- open to foreign investment.
Because -- production is declining and that always happens with.
But nationalize industries seeing a lot of money from Mexico United States and Canada.
Together to be the lead producers in the world.
Which would truly amount to pay us from dependency on the Middle East he wouldn't mean that every time there's instability in the region has happened with the coup last month.
The markets are rattled because people who worry about the closing of the Suez Canal if -- become a leading exporter which we can.
With Canada and Mexico reliable.
Allies it would change strategic picture of the world that we might actually have a chance of a payment to Asia only.
We don't -- that we don't have the potential to become an exporter we will I mean -- you know regardless of the Keystone Pipeline with fracking.
This is going to be an economic revolution in this country in the next five to six years.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Impact on on the Middle East -- something to look forward to -- that's gonna add to the turmoil in the Middle East.
I'm not -- very hard to figure -- and -- I think it's great that we're not going to be dependent on the Middle East that it is going to add to the term while there.
I -- are appreciated here for those grotesquely.
Rich sheiks who have lived through another hit their own somewhere in the mid morning.
He's seventh and I feel claims it has a very large airplane yet and parents who wish that's -- -- -- important for.
Yeah -- but the kitchen I mean there there are competing interests that are.
Friendly to the president who are really pushing him on this you've got union some of them coming out saying.
Gonna create jobs for four opinion of our analysts and other union saying.
Know is that for the country we don't want it.
He's continue to bound to serve he says the State Department will ultimately you know way to make that decision again he is the president sell -- -- -- not making decision is making a decision so he this is a decision that could have been made a long time ago and should have been made a long time ago and the environmentalist I'm very -- -- -- -- and I'm from arm until protection on this issue there -- is extremists and they and they push.
The president -- interaction that's completely unreasonable if for no other reason some environment is going to be affected when we drill for oil so we're just off.
Who -- outsourcing it to another country.
If were going to use oil there's no reason we shouldn't be doing it in this country and we shouldn't have the jobs that go with -- that's just a rational.
And the president I think is -- opportunity.
To -- to to create jobs and also is downplaying the number of jobs can be created.
Clearly to -- this constituency there's no other explanation -- from.
We returned a couple of those topics -- we have our brain trust here.
Right on Boston RNC is getting together they're meeting they're talking about trying to make up ground in ways that the DNC is in a better job with the social media have reaching younger voters different you know factions they say -- they've got a plan and they're gonna talk about at this week Charles -- would be your advice to them.
Because another -- I think it's time to declare the autopsy of last year's election clover signs till -- -- I didn't autopsy is -- less than an -- -- But never years so I think it's -- done it's over you have.
And I think -- you know that.
No idea that some I would have to reinvent ourselves yes we look completely how technology ties to if you want.
You know last election we got to find if you whiz kids who have some affinity with conservatives who can do.
At least to some extent where the other side has done.
But ultimately the election will be decided by the candidates.
-- back to Nixon probably.
The more likable of the coolest -- to always wins that's my son's rule and it turns out to be always right.
You know I think we need we have a young.
You have a feel good young and dynamic candidates and if you compare who will be up to him and -- -- Christie Rand Paul.
Marco Rubio Bobby Jindal Paul Ryan -- the bush.
There's a whole bunch of others.
You know and the governor Wisconsin.
They'll tell what concerns to him this -- you're quite of a litany and had a -- in tennis you never as I get he.
-- just ask Rick Perry as -- exactly.
That's the one rule on television never say how many points don't cut -- out edit I never NL after would you say that I just had three point.
I think there examiner there obviously to be honest if you compare that field with the last one.
There's no comparison I think we don't have as much to worry about.
As everybody who's rendering their garments and gnashing their teeth with management Carter was the coolest.
That's just can't farmland and enjoy -- I -- -- certain -- with all of them.
Al Gore and -- means different things to different from Virginia.
-- -- -- -- with a helmet in the time it's not hard to be cooler than them.
Well let's say today it's all relative say it's not relative to the other guy in -- what advice you not want them to -- And I'm sitting out want to get concerned about it because I do think actually the technology is really important and the fact that it's not just that Obama had -- is that he knew they were he knew how to.
Motivate them to get them out to be costly communicating with them.
And I don't think the Republicans -- -- -- know where the voters are a little on how to communicate with them so they do they do actually need to be figuring this out in the next.
A few years and find and and and and a lot of they're really technologically savvy young people are Democrats you know they had.
What you know have one of them top FaceBook -- was running Obama's -- -- you know operations so.
And I think that it's going to be hard for them and that they do need to be focused on it it's they have a lot of -- ago and aren't he's made some really top hires.
In that respect me they've had a lot of fanfare and all the -- recent weeks about.
The techies that they're bringing on board how they're trying to change that I know one of the the panel that they're gonna talk about the -- -- was well is women's.
Issues and how they -- female voters to the -- you know and a lot of them think.
You got him on the economy because regardless of who you are you probably it will help -- -- Prices are up employment down.
How to reach out to -- -- Well just today -- first.
On the technology thing keep in -- -- failed.
Yeah that there is a weakness on that propagate the Obama campaign had.
Tremendous operations field operations that were there for years and we're building for years and we're finding not just getting.
The voters in the -- of finding new voters and and that's part of technology -- -- I think that that's.
I think that's key to Republicans I'm going forward.
In terms of the woman front I think I think it's a big problem for.
There's a good piece and I think you and I shared about.
About conservative women every time they they hear men talk about issues like abortion they cringe.
That they I think they need.
Out there talking about social issues.
And let me give you one example and that's abortion.
We have one point two million abortions a year.
Even though we have all these laws and all this hoopla and all -- these political battles that go on constantly.
Let's find a different way to talk about.
Abortion lowering the number of abortions.
We have more unexpected pregnancies are unplanned surprise not wanted pregnancies in this country than any other industrialized country.
What happens is this many -- adopted children has signed an adopted this many get aborted in this -- got single parents which doesn't help the child at the end of the day either.
You know what we need to start talking about you know even going back to Hillary Clinton's language -- safe legal and rare let's get real let's look at some things that actually work.
To reduce -- levels of abortion long term birth control might -- and that some conservatives are actually looking at -- as a way -- talked about.
I'm reducing abortion rates what -- adoption domestic adoptions are so low that the federal government doesn't -- -- -- more domestic independent options.
How can we increase you know those numbers how completely realistically change the culture -- abortion in this country.
And I don't think talking about you know legitimate rape -- you know all the things we -- last -- -- way to do it.
Well it what about the broaching the topic too personal responsibility in a morality because in a lot of places you can't talk about that or -- considered a right Winger a Bible and for those kinds of things.
But if more than a country that is so technologically advanced where sex education searching kindergarten.
You have free condoms and birth control at Planned Parenthood and colleges and all those kinds of things.
There have to be something else is driving that where the country with the highest unintended pregnancy rate.
Mean you have to make decisions about personal responsibility and and morality -- -- can they talk about that going away that that doesn't come off as offense.
I think that's tough to -- do you know it in this society is it's a tougher thing I think it's tougher approach to take.
And that I just think eight if it ain't any presidential election in in a presidential primary I think it's -- that's a tougher way to talk about it.
I thank you can't say that most people are of bothered -- that -- that many price abortions.
Most people are bothered by late term abortions most people are pull out there by me you know over twenty weeks after baby's kicking Elena you know like he knows you know like let's start where -- We can help the conversation rather than.
Start it in a place abortion is one of those things that makes people so comfortable to talk about in general even if they.
Have problems with -- -- -- the -- hasn't been written yet even so -- -- she's written a lot of great stuff on this.
But I think I think you have to find that sweet spot of where you can talk about it.
And you know women is that Romney Ryan campaign Lester -- and more women are.
-- it's really just pocketbook issues this happened but I don't think that it is just I think when you start going down this road.
And the other issue to have to address I had is is the Planned Parenthood I know a lot of women.
Got and were offended that Republicans supported.
Like how you address that issue but that com.
I think that I heard from I think of the profits and a prop.
-- issue because a lot of women when they hear -- Republican primarily and now Republicans talking about it what they start date and they feel this kind of they don't get it then I understand me there's kind of -- disrespect me some of the things that they say it just seems.
There's there's an underlying the -- isn't here yet while -- there's a sense that these are people who are going to be sexist and other decisions that they make because the way they're talking about women is very -- so stunned.
And I and I just be just keep doing it AJ it -- is just amazing how they keep.
Saying these things you know about women and about how women aren't solicitor recently -- -- talking about how women.
After divorce is basically their lives are over and how horrible it it it and necessarily.
You know -- -- on and they get -- -- -- just kind of you know their lives -- over -- -- somebody who's running for office and get this is this kind of -- war.
You just feel like -- -- just don't get me.
That they don't get me -- -- decisions and I get any other issue on a -- -- your -- something else that's come up a lot of her -- ceiling get this year Charles as aren't hysteria want to -- Amare Buckley is one of those he says Republicans need to engage Tea Party not ignore and insulting and of course that is an inner party discussion that.
Forcing a plan on the hill and we'll certainly play -- 2016 as well.
The tea parties engaged every day twice a day three times today.
The idea that they're Republicans are ignoring them -- -- -- as a liaison between their fundamental differences.
You tend to give them more.
Radical elements and I would say those who want to shut down the government representing -- on a very tactical issue.
And remains an issue of principle at all during the one thing and one reason why the -- -- he's been such a boom.
For Republicans is that even though it could easily and split off.
Of their arrival of the movement and actually he gave all the energy in 2010 it was very important when he twelfth going in the future I think on principles there's tremendous agreement.
The real question is what do you do when you're an opposition.
So instead of talking about what you do when you're an opposition I think the question ought to be.
The discussion between the so called establishment you know the cocktail swilling.
Sold out old guys like me.
Family and the Tea Party he's had a discussion over what we agree on which is about 80% of things even 90% of things.
Had to win elections on that.
Mean we're not going to resolve the issue of how do you -- from one house of congress.
-- he's feeling a lot of difference on things can make a difference finished the trajectory of the budget for how we do foreign affairs and the next three years.
Let's talk about how we win back the senate next year and how we win.
The White House and I think there's there's there's a way to do it like a lot of people who are is considered establishment.
I welcome -- Tea -- the energy and the idea is the enthusiasm I think on one area.
Which is in tactics with the other guys in power.
I'd like to temper the enthusiasm but for the principles.
And for what those of the country ought to do how we would redo.
What Obama has done or undo it Obama as.
If we got back in the office I think that's a fruitful discussion so I would engage him every day and I would engage them and energy and -- pleasure.
You know that they the party's embrace and they are where the enthusiasm is that and they are whereas you know folks -- -- so.
As you say maybe the G of people take the advice to find what they -- in -- so they can.
Unleash their parity other we spend all of -- time at the cocktail parties.
I was so exhausted you -- -- I don't know I've -- Thanks honey have they now have a chance and we need that and you people.
-- their way toward -- I think you know we've got to get a baseball games and console -- You can combine them Athens Games that you have to delay it for those who would want to I won't I won't come on I'm standing in -- -- I wouldn't make sure that we also on the few minutes we have left that we talk about this IRS report with -- the -- -- because.
Some in the GOP has talked a lot about this year.
House ways and means house oversight you know they're really -- -- the bottom of this.
As we learn more about IRS and whether they have been targeting an admittedly been targeting conservative groups the -- Lerner of course -- the fifth.
When she was on -- hill after making a statement which.
Don't get me started on the legal debate on back.
Puzzler with -- saying anything fight she did she open the -- sensitive that but now there's this call from congress.
Saying that they think as we've seen in some other administrative posts that she may have been using -- personal email address -- Documents involving -- ads served some of these other things.
They're now calling for them Didi goes anywhere.
The attraction on the.
-- I don't know I think -- -- is not.
Clear exactly what she's if she actually is using the personal he now Imus you know was hiding stuff you know.
Plotting against Tea Party people don't know what matter what I sizes -- sense copy of the speech to her personally not something there's nothing.
Wrong with that dozens of presumably if -- speech it's public information.
But in but it into this concerning the number of people.
Who are using personal email accounts for professional business and I assume is probably happening.
Everywhere we're just hearing about a couple people on something is being done about that because.
This is official business and it should all the information that we can get through California.
And they should not there should be really serious repercussions for people who do any kind of official business on their personal.
So I think -- she's doing now than they can get a hold of that amount that's pretty serious issue.
Assuming that it's official business but we don't know that I am.
And we'll see what she does turn over so that we -- more mean that you think of Lisa Jackson over the EPA and there was a lot made of the fact that.
She was using them personally -- to communicate issues that did deal with the administration reportedly.
Charles do you think because anyway.
Well I know -- can hinge on -- personal email issue.
I think as Canadians -- what she knows.
February issue of the end of saying the fact that she took -- means -- she thinks.
If she -- -- say -- answer the questions to get in trouble and that.
But she did preface that I think I've done nothing wrong and broken -- -- so we're kind of taking effect.
If I took the fifth because it is they don't look real good you know I used to be there.
The committees to be run by Bobby Kennedy at least he was -- chief advisor and all the mob guys would come up and take the fifth.
You know you know these guys away soldiers.
You know just to -- -- who spoke.
And you know in different accents.
So this is an old story but when you take the fifth.
You -- and your public servant and you say -- they're aiming wrong.
People rescuers have clearly there's stuff she's worried about the only way I think you can again.
He's do you ever use immunity so whenever she -- cannot be used against him which means the more she says the veteran is because of that -- the stuff they can't be used against it.
So it's a board of -- have to do it unless.
The committee is now gathering evidence -- -- -- which I will know.
-- to be extremely damning bit from the fact that we haven't heard anything now for about a month.
I'm not sure how much is coming from other sources in the asses of you know I was Canadian John she may not -- -- John Dean of this.
Given immunity she might -- of -- tell us something.
Unity in talent cocktail party.
-- the committee does this because I for -- sworn to secrecy you know -- from sleep early.
Think you're done with it but LA Nina a lot of folks like you heard him tonight so while we're discussing policy analyst in September -- Hey bring your favorite charity ticket raise money comment we've gotten what we're talking 26 -- a lot of -- Chris my sixteen who is clearly Tea Party.
But we're all sitting Charles sweet sixteen was a Philly every time I sit here we do the show we get Charles when he sixteen and then he does very well on the being polls were seen so will you run what is -- you give -- the MacArthur.
Payment if nominated a woman he can -- any -- that collective -- -- Obviously -- An -- -- you don't have to get a cocktail party circuit you don't have to do on the funniest thing I know now.
I don't Xeon it was unfair to hunt and -- -- you want to shot and it -- -- -- chocolate and corn dogs that would make me wanna remind her summer here and how does that happen vacant Condo market.
Young men and women -- -- -- -- -- and running mate and my job just that you need that three -- little -- you Charles.
Trying to -- out of what else does or doesn't that on the screen I cannot be held accountable for that so I don't -- in fact I.
Anyway we -- Charles.
And ladies thank you very much for our discussion tonight that is -- for special report on no -- -- hope you enjoyed it thank you for everyone who -- and tonight we always appreciate that.
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