Power Play 8/14/2013
Obamaphone 2.0 and a closer look at the VA Governor's race. Plus - why We can’t wait… to nominate another lobbyist
Aug 14, 2013
Charlie Hurt, Joe Trippi, Julie Roginsky, Gretchen Hamel
Obamaphone 2.0 and a closer look at the VA Governor's race. Plus - why We can’t wait… to nominate another lobbyist
Aug 14, 2013
Charlie Hurt, Joe Trippi, Julie Roginsky, Gretchen Hamel
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-- is what it Washington lobbyist looks like that is Tom Wheeler.
He is the man President Obama wants to lead the Federal Communications Commission.
She's pretty big deal.
And this is -- flag and why does the president want.
A lobbyist -- the FCC why does it matter to you whether or not he does well it may have something to do with -- cellular telephone.
-- cellular telephone on the use of it might cost more.
Once lobbyists mr.
Is confirmed as he is expected to be the United States and because president has a plan.
Your phone bill would go up your phone bill go up in order to finance -- project that he has to expand Internet access.
-- in America's public schools.
So we'll talk about that.
We will also talk about what it's turning into.
I think -- technical term is hot -- some.
-- hostile awesome contest for Virginia governor.
Former chairman of the democratic national.
I got caught in the crossfire between the New York Times in the Washington Post.
And got my -- today in the Washington Post we will talk about that it will be good it will be very good as a matter fact.
You'll also be good because we will talk about something else you -- right.
Which is -- -- did Aetna beat kids with cancer inside the Obama administration when it came to implementing the president's health law.
Kids with cancer had bad lobbyists apparently Aetna had some good -- good lobbyists as -- kids that quite.
So what about the role of lobbying in Washington.
It was supposed to be eradicated since -- since we were spared a John McCain presidency.
By one Barack H Obama but it turns out it's doing pretty good here in Washington is lobbyists are still doing okay.
Also doing okay.
We're totally different reasons is Charles hurt.
-- I saw you Chiron lower third and other partition today's Charlie.
Usually your Charles on television and -- -- an Internet.
Now or as some of them shouldn't count.
Chance hell yes I -- best idea that arrived a little else the towels the -- yes it would change which has dispatch as this that was different that -- -- school.
Yes okay or still in my head we're still do your best -- can't rent or still to your family.
OK so Tom Wheeler.
Is the man -- them on the day that the president asked what he calls.
Because everything has to be apparently spaces are not yet using spaces yes when you -- or not -- to the president's program -- Connect -- And it's one where -- can aggregate and it is acting exit out it's an effort Casey everything's like iPhone did blah anyway the president -- a plan that would.
If he raises taxes on cell phones.
Bias and billions of dollars that they can get -- essentially.
Into your ninety -- percent of America is schools.
And they don't need congress to do that all they -- is the FCC.
Wheeler who formerly led.
The lobbying group that represents America cellphone company -- up and there's also a bumper for president -- was also bumper for president I was so impressed.
That's who the president has nominated by the FCC and as soon as he gets in it's I think everybody -- -- and go.
Yes oh yes yes yes but you know it's do you remember a few years back when -- guy named Dick Cheney was vice president.
And and there there were these.
Endless -- this isn't that right is -- isn't prison prison for signing statements day that he wrote because because that the administration would would get -- -- and where they pass it.
They would write out how they.
Into what they determined.
-- their view what this law meant.
And the left went was apoplectic about it they went cool easy over this.
Because it was it was I think that is the -- unitary executive or something right now.
Where it shows that you know this that I thought was a congregation in Washington check yes edit that it sort of tips the balance of power -- -- the executive and it undermines congress.
Saying -- -- not all come -- I don't this is the difference between unity -- -- You bet we don't have enough time in this segment my friend knew you would -- the -- You West Virginians distinct.
It because you know you're your iron -- we'll talk about -- what's going out of east Virginia OK -- as you guys -- -- West Virginia politics look pretty -- -- -- would -- at least at least are our future governor is intended to clean energy.
Is -- because.
It's quite -- in the end.
We're just into -- in West Virginia you guys -- to clean energy but go ahead and.
I have a lot I know a lot of good principled Smart liberal Democrat and -- and people who supported -- I completely understand why they supported Obama.
And quite frankly as John McCain I wouldn't -- -- -- You know economy -- a particularly good argument against him.
But you know -- their principled people I don't know how they can't be.
That what President Obama is doing with not only -- -- in a case like -- where he's clearly going around congress to spend our money.
Does it take -- to just acts yeah they are ready to take our money.
And spend it on something that has not been you know gone through legislative process and what which -- -- lions and -- residents of lobbyists as you stay and it creates you know this this whole other that this whole others sort of murky business and I.
I don't I don't understand how they're not.
Outraged by the except that I think we I think we've we've -- sort of reached that point but even even conservatives like.
Favorite was at the beginning of the Obama -- That it was like somehow the lobbyists are still sneaking it.
-- the president is trying to keep the obvious that he's trying to keep this up but they're so it's it's they're finding their way into this administration like roaches and it cracks and the stories -- about shock.
White House aides are going across the street to Caribou Coffee to have.
Oh they're having lattes with the lobbyists -- Caribou Coffee to stay off -- because they're not allowed in the building it would be too terrible what they were in the building then there was a story about the donors with a lobbyist -- sneaking in the back door after the president leaves so that he won't see it as if his gaze as he asked upon them they would immediately started pillars of salt.
So they -- this coverage and at one point when the president had nominated enough lobbyists for jobs and hired enough lobbyists.
And enough lobbyists had -- to work for his campaign or not people that work in his administration had gone out to become obvious.
That it sort of became like.
Oh well you know you know how it goes in the end the lobbyist Ron Washington.
I'll meet -- -- -- ads from.
He decided to erect.
They're revolving door keep them right -- and and but but Gary -- -- this is like many things that he will -- that he would say to you well it spends much lower here -- day.
The oil was up fast spinning don't necessary to get all their mother.
So the money exactly a show evidence to push it honestly.
Even even among conservatives.
And those skeptical of the last yeah there it is -- -- it's like we've become inured to all this and quite frankly you're you're very -- -- -- -- Was the first time I'd I'd ever actually sort of understood exit all everything that that.
That was going on with this particular situation and that's you know.
You know you know that's the problem -- you you know what you.
Call that component and value because brother Kurt has just said -- have to -- a slam dunk of self promotion as I tell you kind of yeah.
I have got phone book cops man I got -- -- cops it is.
I did write a column on this subject in which I summoned deduction.
Are you guys as -- usually I died I may have frustrated.
Here but I wrote about we can't wait.
To nominate another lobbyist.
Talking about president the FCC yourself on -- -- that it has little do we can't wait.
To dominate we can't wait to nominate I think another audience I think he should -- I can probably probably I'll probably do that with Jasper -- -- -- dog.
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But having known you for a long time I'm willing to make predictions what's that it's going to be.
Well it's it's going to his magical is it's it's going to be better than the country there.
Probably better that -- bit as as as we would say in West Virginia which team he's -- is I've been to the fairness it accurately.
Really grew at -- if you say it accurately.
I've been fair and I've seen the elephant is released today indicate that we are that we have grown tired of worldly things.
We had -- -- there we have seen the elephant but we have not yet seen Joseph Trippi.
So let's take a break to let us collect ourselves of that when he comes back into earlier and talked about this -- East Virginia gubernatorial contest.
Between coach in the -- -- -- do when we come back.
-- -- -- As transparency is important and as you know I've also called for Ethics Commission when I am elected governor.
To make sure that we're taking these thorny issues outside of the people in the state government and -- independent ethics investigations deal -- these important issues.
And -- is important issues being referenced by Terry McAuliffe.
Democratic gubernatorial candidate in Virginia.
Relate to all -- The kinds of stuff that's going on in his campaign.
And of course the scandal soaked current Republican governor of Virginia Bob McDonnell.
In a race.
That has turned into a race to the bottom.
This -- is powered by welcome back so in Virginia.
There was a narrative that everybody was going to be they had apparently Politico has seminars or something and everybody -- written down.
What the narrative was going to be was could fast talking carpet -- issue Terry McAuliffe sweep down into Virginia and knock off.
Social conservative nut job Ken could you -- as Republicans were forced to confront.
Their war on women and hatred for people with the wrong -- -- -- -- mixed.
well as it turns out this story has gotten much more about.
Ethics as Bob McDonnell the current Republican governor first staggered and stumbled through his own ethics problems.
And now the New York Times in the Washington Post for taking turned Catalan.
Terry McAuliffe for what he has done which is allegedly to operate -- piece -- -- It -- and it's not everywhere you want today but Charlie hurt is everywhere we want him to be which is remaining -- despite his best impulses Joseph Trippi.
Joseph Trippi knows something.
About how to win elections.
He is a democratic strategist yes he is Fox News contributor he is a former national campaign manager when Howard Dean and he helped rock your party.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- OK so Terry McCullough.
Wants an Ethics Commission presumably to investigate himself.
Can -- -- also wants an Ethics Commission presumably to investigate himself.
Thank you gotten things have gotten not good.
Down in Virginia Joseph I want to share with you this quote from the Washington.
Post the Washington fracking post that said this.
Quote if the company is referring here to go call the green tech electric are going to be if the company is -- smoke and mirrors.
If it is little more than a -- -- wants to serve mr.
-- political ambitions that is disturbing.
There a -- a good Democrat.
What the in this race.
Happy if you're represented -- here as the times in the post it turns whacking him.
What do you do if you're advising.
-- like I think this from the race as a whole as you've reported -- it's just gotten so.
So low I mean -- you guys.
-- -- now leave where they've written you know -- -- -- eighteen grant from the same company that Bob McDonald's in trouble with.
It I mean that the charges are gonna -- left right I think that that is in -- Interest to do I mean I think.
It in the end.
The narrative that you -- out of the kooky right ringer in the fast moving Mac -- is what the decision points gonna be the one thing I think is.
The demographics of Virginia changed quite a bit as many as we know and I still think.
-- it's anybody's race right now I mean I think I -- both of these guys and drawn and somebody they can be and I and I and I mean yeah.
-- that's what we set that's what we -- when we put this panel.
-- -- I -- this is what -- -- so -- what are you -- -- -- everything he says is is is completely accurate but the thing is.
That this the -- isn't running against.
The current governor who is as you wanna -- don't embroiled in all of his own scandals.
He -- -- and you couldn't take gold watches films usually go to thirteen thousand I don't ever talk about you don't miss that day in the training.
And extra anywhere -- -- -- -- a guy shows up your whole life is engraved with your name don't take.
But he either way it's no god let generally think is.
I turned on -- actually running -- can against -- Puccio who is this allegedly right wing Neanderthal because I guess you opposes abortion so.
So that the only college into only because the only crime can -- -- has committed is that he's conservative.
No he took he did take money from this and Johnny -- he did take money from -- anyway that he says he won't return to Obama yeah but did.
But Britain -- -- the the extent to which Terry McCall is up to his ears in this business with the company that he started with the -- you know that that would be super for for money scheme.
And the endless and analyze it he's told about -- the manufacturing of these cars at a Mississippi at a -- that doesn't exist.
And another one that if you talk to -- -- operational plan and I took but it goes to the heart of his entire job.
And that I into the hill has a story today that is missed plays -- that he admitted that his missile on where they say Republicans try out.
Clinton 2016 attacks in Virginia.
That is an August delirium for -- for the hell like oh well maybe this -- now but it is true we've got Tony Rodham.
Terry McAuliffe former treasurer for the house of Clinton.
We've got all of this stuff.
Is there a little preview in the Virginia race for what Republicans might say about Hillary Clinton and.
Well I look that all this.
If the Republicans grab all I mean being god the they're gonna do all kinds of stuff the effort against Hillary all the way Emmy for the next three years we're just gonna be hearing about that.
I don't think -- -- Virginia's much of a preview at all I mean he deemed as you watch with what's happening now.
-- with their creator tax the one thing -- -- the one thing I should disclose those I have.
To Terry McAuliffe site is when -- get that out.
Right now before we get later thank you were later on -- cats theater comes after the first for commented on the race after but I yet I am for Terry McAuliffe so do we do you think you're brokerage and -- yeah yeah yeah we did we cannot we went concerned.
But he you know the thing is look that the -- members they'd -- Virginia.
Elect a guy named Doug Wilder for governor back in 19891.
Africans -- -- governor since reconstruction.
Largely on a pro choice platform.
I mean he ran.
-- -- strongly pro choice candidate.
And since then boom we think because of the size particularly of northern Virginia's against the state grows.
Which is as we know.
Much more progressive and and left leaning -- the rest of the state.
It's become very difficult to get elected statewide in Virginia with a strong pro life.
Position in other positions that -- -- -- has immunity that plus.
Of the McDonald's scandals which are very real and now the -- and have some of that money to connection -- Is -- I think problematic further GOP just as this yes you know I mean -- there -- -- Terry McAuliffe who I support.
Is a candidate.
The -- -- in the GOP can try to exploit.
He hit some of his business deals and other things that he's tried to do.
Those are that's going to be the fulcrum of this of this -- campaign and I don't really.
I think it's going to be a close race but in the end I think Terry McCall will pull it out we'll see the one thing I think it's gonna happen spoke Chris low turnout -- Your loan program that's that's right -- only one that could help I could help that could help okay Joseph -- you -- helped us immensely thank you for your wise counsel.
Thanks -- thanks for haven't had.
Have a good day and Charles I've been waiting and as long as I've known you all of lo these many years to say this from the perspective of the West Virginia.
It's time for you guys to clean up your politics.
Been waiting so long as you can tell he's continue to get its house in order but please -- to rectify -- -- exclusively from prison -- Kroll PG.
Baghdad that was his name only as good as -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- would carry a lot of Virginia you know and Charlie hurt so would you thank you for being there they're going to take a quick break but when we come back we will be excellent again.
Because we will talk about what it takes to win.
In the Obama administration authorization how did not -- kids with cancer.
We'll talk about that when we come back -- around.
This -- night I sent the mice that we will not take pac money we -- not take money from federal registered lobbyist.
Have not funded my -- They will not run I'll White House and they will not drown out the voices of the American people when -- president.
I'll -- united states -- about it.
We need -- presidency the government out of them.
Tool that rich friends.
Was essentially just central pillar president Obama's 2008.
It was a two part gambit by Obama back then and then senator one he had opposed the Iraq War.
-- Thing -- was he hated lobbyists.
Unlike Hillary Clinton and then John McCain who were needy.
In those terrible trouble -- -- to Washington this is power -- back.
And not -- what did it at all.
In no way.
And that you've never been -- registered -- -- -- have you had an executive you're the executive director of public.
Notice you people like fiscal -- -- -- true yes yes strained -- it is your thing.
And you're not a registered lobbyists -- you would be welcome to work in the Obama campaign.
-- but I don't think they'll be calling.
They would have won by even more if -- -- -- I had been working for that she is if Democrat she's a strategist choose to communicate for she is Fox News contributor.
Who previously worked for tenth -- and welcome Julie are you.
Did -- -- have a question how did admit -- kids with cancer when it came to doing carve outs in the president's health law.
Robert Ayers story -- the New York Times is still creating ripples.
The insurance industry which -- would like not to be subject of this law.
How did they get and what your -- out in something that was intended to help families of people who had theories serious illnesses.
By putting caps on their out of pocket expenditures.
You you won the real answer -- one -- The freelance freelance Travis is somebody happy -- somebody had a couple obviously probably you know how it exercise some influence the not real answer is of course it's -- compromises here this legislation passed and yadda yadda.
Look somebody new somebody somebody how to lobbyists at a price hit a lot of -- -- -- the world making combined and that's how they got their kinda I.
You don't know you don't know what directions get.
We don't know public notices and we have no idea.
The -- it is true that than lobbying is a much dirtier word in Washington and it was because president found at 2000 is a good way to do it.
As we talked about the first segment.
The -- the president has appointed to run the FCC that he wants -- FCC.
And others this is now sort of like unremarkable in Washington putting lobbyists in charge of things -- -- meant.
I don't wanna be old Bob Dole here but like where's the outrage dude like shouldn't there and I warship in Washington.
Now well not only did this guy lobby and that they -- appointed him but he was also -- -- fund raiser in that campaign doesn't hurt if you wanna get.
I think he just talked about that and that's segment is in his speech where he you know didn't wanna start appointing people who helped people -- raising campaign cash -- Yeah where is the outrage they've really seen here in Washington is this change the president's gonna.
Bringing to Washington never really happened he's been saying one thing and then doing another and with this is created is even more distressed.
And government and a big government that is not even abiding by the people are doing what's right I think people and is just increasing this distressed where we can't believe politicians.
And what they -- -- what they campaign on.
-- -- -- I think I'm not trying to play shocked shocked shocked they're lobbyists in Washington -- I guess who I guess my question is this.
For the president.
The argument is that says Republicans won't help.
Him do the things that he wants to do.
Since Republicans won't help he doesn't have any choice but to use regulatory means to achieve his goals -- like the FCC.
Contacts are talking about.
And that seems to work it seems to work with the press -- it seems to work with others who supported him in his -- -- -- Washington -- -- Does that -- or does this ever become a problem.
It doesn't ever became a problem for the previous ministries inside they know it will become a problem for this -- it will become a problem for the next -- look I mean -- -- any I'll.
I don't he's getting here but I know but listen look at any president is gonna take as much statutory authority -- do whatever they can.
They want to do any signal and I don't care who you are they're gonna do it analysts are some in preventing them from doing it right now there is nothing preventing him from doing it and then nothing Oprah in the next on -- doing it.
And I hate to be the bearer of bad news again here from the mother said but that's -- suffering down there.
-- the -- but New York is where.
Honestly today and I think about New York politics we need this Larry we we worry about it we'll worry about hookers and exposing.
Over the Internet that's a whole different ballgame up here and we're we're we're much more -- -- about this kind of stuff -- -- -- Color today.
If I -- Carlos danger I don't I have.
The I think as but right now there is there is truth in this I would -- he -- but credit for the president having exposed the utility of attacking on this ground.
If -- -- Hillary Clinton.
I would be preparing myself want to hear an awful lot of -- every -- I would be I'd be preparing myself to talk a lot about what Tony rough.
Which visas Tony Rodham and Terry McAuliffe made available to a Chinese investors at all it's sort of inside self dealing stuff right.
Absolutely I mean let's look here this thing you're talking about regulations and how -- like -- regulations to get ahead.
This administration has -- and and beyond when it comes to finding a way around congress.
And doing it doing their legislative work.
By regulating us the manmade -- -- -- -- issued it previous administrations have done -- unprecedented amount that it's been Dahlia I.
Well we're -- right.
I -- yeah ladies that's it ladies we live and where we thank you very much -- -- -- Today we love you come back soon -- got -- providing time for us Gretchen okay.
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That's -- you'll have it hopping good time I guarantee.
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