Also in this playlist...
This transcript is automatically generated
Let's start to -- Colby he is that got a brand new book out that's fascinating could be more apropos for the moment.
And it's called some of my best friends are black the strange story the integration in America.
-- -- who coauthored a book on John Belushi a biography in New York Times best seller.
The Chris Farley -- and the Chris Farley show a biography in three acts.
-- -- of them stood to the great educators of their generation I thought.
The way they live way to of their lives way too short -- -- -- first off would major write the book about would score of the country did you have this idea after the president got elected.
I had the idea while the president will was being elected it was during the 2008 campaign.
And I I done these two books some Belushi and on Farley.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- So I was really really looking for something else to write about and -- I got into comedy.
I wanted to do like daily showtime comedy about you know politics and history -- -- -- wound up writing about comedians it was a bit of a detour.
So wanted to get back to history in politics but I was only an expert -- -- -- so I was gonna have a heart and an excellent published.
And then I realized during the 2008 election.
And here I was.
Supporting you know it was big Barack Obama fanned and sport of America's first black president but I didn't actually know any black people.
Menu like the black -- in the office in the you know -- -- you know beat some experience you know I cover your -- -- you point -- you -- a black guy and you preschool class right did the cover of the book is my actual you know that preschool -- you all have in front of the alphabet and the shapes and colors everything and it's all these white kids with you know the one black -- in the background.
Tom -- -- a lot of people in America from my age group certainly have that picture.
And so I wanted to look at the idea over the history of of racial integration affirmative action school busing in a fair housing and all these programs were supposed to fix.
Segregation and I figured well if they -- if those programs that works and I would probably no more black people when they do and so I'd.
Excited to go investigate that and I told my editor.
You know if they're from a white guy writing about race in America.
Ignorance is really the only qualification I need.
So that was enough for them to sign -- request was did you -- many well it was CI sort of Trace the color line through history in my own life I went to high school in Birmingham Alabama.
And we at school -- of my high school and I lived in the white white suburb that's you know.
Very much stereotypical idea of the south -- -- -- school flag was confederate flag and it was very much a defiant southern you know kind of place.
And we had school busing and so there was some conflict between the black students coming into our neighborhood.
I worked in advertising here in New York for nine years from.
And as we know from watching mad -- that's a little light industry and so there's a huge as a long and storied history of the sort of the failure of affirmative action to really change and industry.
Group in southern Louisiana before moving to Alabama where.
The Catholic churches are very much segregated all right state so I just -- the examine all the places where I come from to find out why they were so segregated.
So we have a tremendous progress we look at the most powerful I entertainer in the country -- But personalities Oprah hand and you get the most -- person the free world it's -- Obama average American dissent CC progress obviously there.
Right well one of the things that was -- -- about affirmative action when it started in this one of the things that Nixon did very deliberately.
When he started instituting affirmative action policy asks people people -- affirmative action with LBJ and Kennedy because they were the first ones to use the word.
But affirmative action is a program in terms of quotas and racial preferences started under the next administration.
And Nixon's goal in doing it.
Was to sort of defuse the domestic racial situations or become extra Vietnam that was his main goal Vietnam and China what I wanna do -- what this racial thing to take care of itself.
And so affirmative action was really designed primarily to help the black middle class.
And to help.
Those really talented super achieving people get across -- and it wasn't a program designed to uplift all -- in fact he says specifically talking to his candidate.
There -- 35% of blacks we can do good but let's concentrate on those.
And then you know welfare and you know and we'll take care of the rest and so that's why you do see super high achieving black people you know in this country.
But the larger problem of -- hasn't been solved because it wasn't -- and try to did you find a Stanley plays a big role as slowly the it is the specific Clinton getting across the color line.
In terms of you know being raised in them in an all white environment succeeding -- an all -- environment.
When they started school busing and there's -- psychologists and sociologists we're looking at how it worked they said.
-- -- only works for integration only works.
For black students -- their family standing behind them and supporting them.
Because it is very difficult to beat -- you're taking your kids Jamaican travels far too it was schooled enough to milieu with with kids they don't know right and so.
-- if they did they said specifically -- -- few if these black students don't have their parents standing behind in them and helping them that integration could actually make things worse -- you're sending them into a difficult environment without the rights court.
And so everyone that I spoke to that's been successful on the white side of color line.
They immediately they say well my parents you know.
Help me do it matters may need to because otherwise it's a very difficult transition your parents after -- would be pushing.
Filter by section