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I'm in New Hampshire governor John Sununu joins us -- you served.
Good evening Greta how are you tonight.
Through -- -- this news -- for the Washington Post certainly is an expansion of what we've been hearing about the NSA in terms of spying your thoughts about answer.
Well two things.
A lot of what happens and an agency even the NSA.
Is a reflection of the culture they see from the top and you have a president and administration.
That revels in going beyond the box if you will that they are limited to by law and I think that -- all the way down.
Into the NSA even though they need the audit says.
I think it's that the -- example in the last year they point out there's nearly 3000 violations.
It does say that the bulk of them were quote accidental or inadvertent.
But the fact is is that's just a reflection of a sloppy attitude that I think flows from my culture that starts in the president's office.
You know government -- due respect I think maybe one instance where some his privacy was was broken.
That might be an accident or inadvertent or something else but if -- talking about thousands and that is what the Washington Post is reporting tonight.
Is -- overstepped his legal authority thousands of times of that doesn't put them on notice plus in the situation where there has been nothing but denial out of the NSA in terms of the extent of the so.
I don't see him in and -- maybe -- maybe in part a cultural thing I'm not inadvertent and accidental was I think the words used in the audit Greta that's not my words.
I look at what -- -- I finally I find it stunning and something good happened thousands of times could ever be inadvertent or acts have done much to me it's stunning.
Well I think -- -- reflection of a cultures seepage.
Of not feeling any obligation to be held -- within the box of what laws say you can and can't do.
And I think that comes right from the White House and right from the president and I think.
People have to understand.
That having a liberal media and a liberal press.
Giving this president a free pass on all his constitutional violations and excesses.
Is what creates the climate under which an agency like the NSA get sloppy to do what they've been doing.
Why enters a -- some of the violations where I'm from typographical errors that would be sloppy but the article also says they are significant violations of the law that's -- little bit away from the inadvertent in my mind in the typographical and you have if they had this reporter Barton Gelman who you know be better on the Washington Post for years but yet that's way that's what he says significant violations of the law.
Why I agree this is something that should not be happening but.
The point I am trying to make here is that that.
It I believe it's happening in virtually every agency of government.
And every department of government and and this exceeding their right and authority under the law.
Is a culture that this administration.
Has cultivated it is terrible that it's happening in the NSA.
But it is happening across the board.
Well exactly seeing things happen the IRS in the last few months -- -- been stunning nonetheless.
Here's one other -- thing that I think is particularly painful and looking at this article tonight is it's not just the NSA doing these thousands of violations -- the report.
But we know we have we all we got hoped that the -- -- court which is the court that overseas and protects it would be service stop -- but what the article says it says in another case the foreign intelligence surveillance court which has authority over some NSA operations.
Did not learn about a new collection method -- would have been an operation for many months.
Then the court when they learned about it they -- it unconstitutional.
So the gap between what they're doing.
And when they serve it up to the court is another you know I agree just violation in my mind.
Look this this whole process that this administration has has -- get to this point.
-- really does have to be reviewed I recognize a need for a a lawful and efficient NSA operation.
I think it's critical to the national security.
But I do understand that -- -- bounds under which they are required.
Not to cross limits that they are required not to cross.
And they can't cross those under the law and they shouldn't cross them and of the court needs more tools because we're counting on the five cents court.
To make sure that those bounds or not exceeded if -- court needs more tools it ought to tell congress quickly and congress sought act quickly to provide.
Both the legal and the financial framework for this thing to be done right to protect American citizens.
-- judge Reggie Walton -- pictures now up on the screen is the chief judge of that court -- been around here for years -- very law and order type but judge who follows the law and I don't imagine he's going to be particularly happy especially.
He may he gave a statement tonight.
In which he said the spice -- -- is forced to rely upon the accuracy of the information is provided to the court.
And so if if -- if the government has -- to the court.
The court essentially become -- rubber stamp just -- now what the government says that's that's in the yard terrible thing and -- terms of -- you're doing some.
If you're supposed to oversee the constitutionality of -- but he goes on to say.
The -- -- court does not have the capacity investigate issues of noncompliance.
And in that respect the fights -- court is in the same position -- any other court.
When it comes to enforcing government compliance with a shorter so what whack -- the way I -- that is that we have the Serb powerless -- court.
Because it because the information is being provided to -- Well two things one of the court needs more help if it needs more support if it needs more laws are more money it ought to ask specifically.
For what it thinks it needs to do.
To protect American citizens it's been given a responsibility under the law and it should make clear what it needs in order to fulfill that responsibility.
But at the risk of being repetitious.
I go back to what I said earlier the biggest problem in all of this is this culture and attitude.
That the lines of the law don't have to be followed strictly and that culture and attitude comes from a president.
Who tries to impose taxes on his own who decides when Obama care can.
Meet the letter of the law and when it doesn't have to meet the letter of the law it comes from a president that instructs his EPA.
To invent ways to get around congress where he stands up and said.
And says to the public that the executive branch.
Is -- to find ways to avoid the limitations imposed constitutionally -- congress has a responsibility.
That's a terrible latitude and it's what promotes and nurtures the kinds of things that you're seeing coming out of the NSA.
-- any reasonably that the president was aware of any of this.
I have no specific reason to to to be able to say that.
But but I'd I don't think it's inconsistent.
With the style that comes out of that White House.
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