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-- you know the president insisted.
And I've got his quote right here and he set it on several occasions the government.
He's not actually abusing these programs listening -- -- people's calls and appropriately reading people's emails.
Now of course we realize that -- was done.
Out of only one operating unit and there are great -- and for each one of those violations.
He could include thousands of Americans if you.
Extrapolate it across the many collection.
And then do the math.
You could be talking about millions of Americans were actually violate -- -- you know the president insisted that.
It wasn't happening.
Yeah I mean it's absolutely astounding when you think -- -- and you think that this is a president who's from the Democratic Party and this is a party.
That was known to carry an awful lot -- so we thought about these issues.
And -- -- a president that came out and deny the fact that this was happening.
Turns out it was happening.
And just that you know look at the politics of this thing.
I think that -- and Paul is absolutely.
Brilliant in his strategy of trying to bring.
The libertarian wing of the party into the Republican Party because working with young people -- thank -- day on Saturday.
These are issues that they care about an awful lot they do not want the government intruding on their lives like this.
And this is a grand opening for the grand old party to say look at you -- I -- -- I know there's another wing of the party Peter King Chris Christie and others who do we don't want that happening but.
You know I think Rand Paul's absolutely right to -- -- and you know he owes a lot to his father I think -- -- raise these issues before.
Because these are issues that are absolutely terrifying to people and especially I go back to young people who grew up.
We this kind of equipment -- in there and they're always on their -- always on -- right at.
They don't want the government 300 -- like this and the fact that it's been happening is still happening is something I think.
You're gonna -- a lot of quote unquote liberals progressives care an awful lot about and I think it could hurt the Democrats who.
-- the -- I eighty is that the NSA says what a lot of these were inadvertent they were accidental.
Yes there were some that apparently had been done intentional way and that's a violation.
But do you think that proponents of the NSA program including the president are not making a sufficient case to the American people that -- These minor intrusions.
For a small price to pay for keeping us safe.
Look I don't.
First of all is anybody really isn't surprised that the government screwing something like this up and this is a major operation.
Do we do we really surprise that we've you know there have been mishaps and missteps and and inadvertent things happen.
And of course we're not try -- we'll wait and see see what happens with health care.
But you know people have to understand that we're fighting global war.
On terrorism of course the president doesn't like to talk about it but that the fact of the matter is he seen the intelligence and he knows that that's happening.
And this is a 21 century.
Paradigm that most people aren't quite used to yet.
There has to be.
A -- a specific.
Methodology to the way that this information is collected.
And that methodology is then used through -- various algorithms to to try and point two different relationships that could be potentially harmful.
That is absolutely necessary for us to do -- -- to stay ahead of our enemy who was our enemy is using technology our enemy is doing all of these things.
And and true you know it -- it does maybe there's at least some moral oversight is needed but we're not going to be able to have -- to litigate this in the public -- Because if we do that them ultimately we're going to be -- -- legally audit also found a couple of other things that were disturbing an effort.
To not report it properly I -- cover it and a further effort to keep the Pfizer court.
In the door and of course the -- importance for us to be supervising.
All of this is certainly a story that's not gonna go away wanna say thanks to -- CNN Thomas facility -- you guys for dropping by talking about this.
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