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It's pick up where Doug left off in.
You know you've heard they go first at this and Tony you heard that even some of the Blue States are not happy with -- missed deadlines adding that -- you just can't keep making changes you say what Tony.
I as I say I'd rather have the changes that you think that's going to make it run smoother.
I understand and I wouldn't and them at first I should say of course I wouldn't want the change but here's where can understand it from a blue state -- red state perspective.
If there have to be tweaked to make things runs -- -- more smoothly.
If you identify a problem I'd rather know about that now and that's the job of they -- -- in the in the folks -- -- implementing the health care law that.
That's their job to figure out when they have to delay things that -- -- when they have to change things and -- I don't think it's a crutch to say we've we expect.
Bumps along the road that's that's simply a fact and I would much rather have them point those out now and help us along the way.
And out -- with utility just for another moment here and ask you are you comfortable with the timing of those changes we are now what August 20.
October 1 is not too far away I.
And that's that I think that's more of cause for concern that the closer you get more confuse folks are going to be and and in another part of this is.
There's a lot of investment in making people aware.
Of the law that that that of the benefits coming to them.
The bottom line here is that there's an ultimate could hear that millions of people.
With out health insurance will be able to get health insurance.
And I I think it makes for interesting conversation and and real conversation real problems but as long as -- working of -- identifying them.
And then they can run a bit smoother think we're better off.
We'll read -- so use -- -- -- now and I ask you is this cause for concern or is it.
Par for the course when you're bringing online major legislation such as Obama care.
Well I think when we talk about major I mean that's almost a small word compared to what Obama -- this is a massive program.
That is multifaceted.
And if these were just bumps in the road or small tweaks that needed to be.
You know taking care of here -- there that would be one thing that these are really critical components of the program that we're discussing.
You know -- expects change is going to play October 1.
Several of the attorney general's across the state and across the country have come out.
With concerns about privacy concerns about the information of individual citizens that are going into these databases.
That that's not a tweak or a -- that's that's a very serious concern.
Some of the other things we see with the delay and insurance companies controlling costs.
That's gonna hurt those individuals who need these this program most of all I agree with Tony that we want as many Americans.
In this country to have health insurance however I think where we're going to end up seeing her obamacare is that those individuals.
Are going to be compromised the most with some of the changes.
That are coming down the pike or some of the delays that the administration is putting in place in which individuals are you talking about.
I'm talking about those individuals for example.
Those those that are chronically -- last week.
For example when via administration announced -- delay and the coverage the cost of coverage.
You know that's gonna really hurt those people who have high subscription rates or have a chronic illness and -- prescription rates or a chronic illness.
That there's going to be no control for them there is gonna be no benefit in the short term for them.
We're looking at the working poor those people that perhaps won't be covered under -- exchanges in some states they will then be penalized they will -- -- to pay.
If they are not paying for their insurance.
It's it's important to note in the implementation that especially for folks who might struggle with a affording a plan.
That there were options in subsidies to help -- along.
If if you want to instill fear.
And then you might say things like privacy without having fact that crack the privacy is actually compromised or you might say things like.
People have -- Well actually.
That that I I I think that's where the important part piece comes in here but there will be a lot of education be done.
And and and that most people find.
That it's accessible that it is that it is it is an entry -- the good that somebody who had no health care report -- will now be able to purchase it.
Tony what do you let's pick up at a point that -- with Callaway just reported on.
Other question -- to Doug was the administration and the president in particular.
Tried to make the case that Republican obstructionism is largely responsible for program delays do you believe there's any truth to that.
I can with you if the first reaction to the -- that -- obamacare is.
More than fifteen lawsuits.
-- I think they can make it pretty easy case.
Four structures -- if there have been 39 votes in the US congress.
-- to help not a perfect not to -- not to make better but to repeal obamacare with no other alternatives.
Two to cover millions of Americans I think you can make the case -- -- -- and -- Fairly easily and when you have folks in some of the poorest states in this country Republican governors and some of the -- states in this country saying.
They don't want to be exchange in their state that's another decent case for obstruction and and it's it's mind boggling frankly your reaction Florida.
Why I I think that in this country the beauty of living in this country is that there's room for debate and if Republicans.
Or or Democrats for that matter don't think that this health care plan was feasible at any point time.
It's certainly their prerogative to stand up for the American people on expressed that concern and I think we've seen across the country.
That people on both sides of the -- have significant and serious issues.
With the implementation of this -- -- I think we need to separate this law I think we need to separate what happened during the passage of this law.
Vs what's happening during the implementation.
That slot and many of the delays that were for reported upon have transpired without Republicans knowing about them.
Some of them were done through agencies and posted -- regulation on web sites so we haven't seen obstruction to the implementation.
Of this program.
-- various rules and regulations.
There has been concerned there has been talk about the funding of Obama care.
And really that's coming from the American people through their representatives in Washington that's how they wanted to win -- -- -- it.
Well -- you've mentioned in the states some of the states not bringing on board the exchanges are not wanting to be the -- to take it on.
And there are real fiscal and financial concerns about that and they're very legitimate.
You know obamacare is based on an assumption that all Americans including young Americans will buy into Obama care that they will purchase health insurance.
And there is no incentive under Obama care for young Americans to buy health insurance it will be two to three times more expensive for them.
-- it is today.
And with the pre existing condition caveat under obamacare which is not a bad thing that is a good thing.
They can then purchase health insurance when they need it.
So we're gonna see many many young people across the country opting not to purchase insurance and to pay the fine it'll be less expensive for them they can I think that have.
-- let me and that may -- went bad that it.
I'm sorry guys let me give that the -- at a time it got to get Catherine -- coming up soon but I want to read this this chat here.
And the Tony let me give you the last word on this particular subject and we'll move by.
Sample -- yet there is no health care systems in place right now thousands of people die if Obama here.
He's -- implemented immediately.
-- I I think we can make a very good point without being drastic.
I think if 4015 million Americans don't have health insurance millions of them have an opportunity to buy that.
They're going to be happy I think people like me whose whose college -- able see on their insurance.
Because of obamacare they're going to be happy with that people who will be able have their insurance because there there.
Because they have to do have a preexisting condition but they won't be able will be kicked off their charts.
Will be happy that this is implement so it's it's important in and of itself we don't -- don't have to exaggerated at all it's important.
You know -- just told by producers that Catherine Herridge is not quite ready yet salute red you can continue but -- -- what you're trying to say who.
-- what I what what I was trying to say is that if we don't it you know that -- -- -- the basic economic assumptions of obamacare if they don't come true for -- -- that the program isn't implemented if people are purchasing insurance.
As the plan goes then the programs in real trouble.
And and some of the promises that have been made to states about the implementation of the exchanges in terms -- what government funding will be available.
If the -- not available it's not copper coming.
And I think you know that it that all in all the states are looking at that and saying hey this is not gonna work for us we know that it's not economically feasible.
We need to try something else are we need to fix this and I do agree with Tony and that.
There does need to be an alternative we do need to insurer make sure that those that need access to care have access to care.
And so I think that Republicans a lot of Republicans understand that and know that there has to be a shift we saw last week some dialogue and debate about that within the party.
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