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Starting January 1 under the president's Affordable Care Act -- you will be required to have health insurance or face penalties.
A growing number of voices are pushing for -- delay to the individual mandate calling it -- burning your obamacare card campaign.
Kitty president and CEO for it -- joins us details about the campaign why.
They're -- a draft card his sentiment we're gonna it's NBA draft card burning they're calling for why putting and that's from an.
Out what some metaphor because you don't get a choice you're being conscription -- a plan that you didn't shoes you didn't have a voice and not put all of the sudden.
You're going to be faced with this real economic decision -- -- This this gold plated plan that specifically designed to cross subsidize.
People that are that are older more wealthy -- you -- All right so what do you do to try to convince people though -- RD and doing benefits from the plan because a lot of the good parts of the law.
That people find to be very positive when you ask them about individual portions of -- -- -- kicking and the pain is being delayed a little bit.
-- all of -- -- the politics of this sort to hide the real costs in the real burdens.
But that's the point of this campaign is is particularly for young people.
They need to understand that that that they're getting a raw deal here a lot of them voted for the president a lot of them.
Thought that health care for all was a good thing but it's going to be financed.
On their back so that they need to step up they need to make the choice they need to do the math and figure out for themselves what makes sense and and that's the bottom line the individual mandate.
Forces people to do something if it's such a good idea surely they would get a choice.
Well -- think that they get the math behind this -- that's in the nevermind major certainly that this is pretty simple when you break it down do you think there are aware though even those who on the -- -- rally to vote for the president voted for him.
Today -- what's gonna happen the fact that they truly are gonna subsidize those who are older and less healthy.
That is if they can be convinced to get a play and a lot of them are gonna pay the penalty it's much cheaper options enough.
Well let him get a choice but to get the math now because they're gonna have to sit down at the kitchen table and actually figure out whether or not they're willing to pay that 95 dollar fine.
Where they're going to look at various plants Wall Street Journal just at an interest in study of ten real live young people in Portland organ.
Faced -- those choices.
And 11 young man in particular said.
Having done about he would have to pay -- -- 47 dollars a month and a 6000 dollar deductible he said I'm not gonna pay for that.
It comes down to whether or not it's worth it whether or not I can afford it and he made a decision eight out of ten of these young people -- that same decision.
What we're hearing from a lot of companies across from where we hear from you VA we heard from you yes this week and others talking about the fact that they're going to -- -- limit.
Spousal coverage if your spouse can find health care elsewhere for a lot of people that may mean going it's the exchanges and not keeping the planes -- the doctors that they had.
But I thought it was interesting -- forever 21 very popular clothing store for young people.
Announced it's cutting people the 29 point five hours and -- sure looks like an effort to not miss that thirty hour cat.
They were out interviewing folks on the street and people were saying that there -- really mad at forever 21.
Did they did they not -- the connection to the health -- -- they certainly were blaming the president they were blaming the company.
Yeah that's going to be a challenge for employers -- see this as an opportunity.
To shift their costs on to the taxpayers.
But the thing to understand here and this is the reason why the president delayed the employer mandate.
This thing is a train -- and all of those theoretical arguments we had about people paying more.
Losing their coverage being forced to do something -- -- -- to -- stuff theory anymore.
And between now and November of 2014.
People are gonna lose the coverage they have they're going to be forced to buy something they don't want.
And I think that's a real problem for anyone who supported obamacare do you think -- -- between fourteen terms -- I think it's going to be a defining issue much like it wasn't 2010 but that was -- philosophical argument you believe.
The government should control your health care this is about economics to quote former President Clinton it's arithmetic this time.
All right if everyone has a calculator out there they can figure it out for themselves in the Wall Street Journal piece very interesting for people wanna know how it works in real life.
That thank you very much Spencer good to see --
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