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Problem not gonna start with which of the five -- -- senses you yeah and you would do without but.
Let's start back on the serious topic and Syria one of the semblance -- did not play.
Earlier from president Obama's interview with PB gas.
Is where he lays out the evidence as he puts -- We have concluded that.
The Syrian government in -- carries out and if that's so.
-- there need to be international consequences so we are consulting with our allies were consulting with the international community.
And feel I have no interest and any kind of open ended conflict in Syria but we do have to make sure.
Countries break international norms on weapons like chemical weapons or could threaten us that they're held accountable.
-- -- And saying -- there's no doubt.
-- -- is this.
You know taking it to the public is this -- Casey's gonna make -- -- do you think it's going to be any kind of Oval Office address before we see tomahawks line well I think he's got to do an Oval Office address before the -- -- -- -- -- -- -- reporting that.
That some aides say that that is quote -- say.
Well that's news to -- I think that's crazy talk I think that when the president -- -- states.
Puts troops even haven't.
Offshore distance into harm's way and starts killing people.
That you know if my entire lifetime president's take to the screens and explain and the American people why they're doing this.
I think that he need to do a better explanation than was going on PBS with one little statement like that.
You know there's an enormous -- -- the -- double standard here is so rich and so deep.
About the the standards of evidence that are required for Barack Obama do something like this vs George W.
Bush that you can spend days delving into it.
And I would like to see see more evidence I had I don't doubt for a minute that the -- sodden those guys are capable of doing this I think that they -- do it but that you know I don't see any reason why they can't.
Present the evidence letter James writes it's a shame that the US -- -- always been a purveyor of what is good in this world has been reduced trifling over such a decision as to whether to take action Syria or not.
With president Obama's oratorical skills I would think he could inspire the nation to rally -- him and take action to protect those that need protection.
-- well first thing -- say is that what the president told the PBS folks is that.
The fact that the -- that the chemical weapons.
With rockets was evidence to him that only the government had the capacity.
The nerve gases in this way.
And -- that was the central point of proof that he offered in an interview.
As to whether or not.
He can rally people what I've heard is that you know he simply wants to.
Release and therefore have all the newspapers all the news outlets go over the information that he's received in terms of tissue.
Samples that have been removed.
In terms of the location of the reserves of these chemical weapons and -- they're located.
And he said they they have that's the largest reserve in the world of nerve it nerve gases and chemical weaponry and he's gonna make the case -- in the best moral argument is.
That you don't want al-Qaeda and others were ready in Syria to gain control of that of those weapons and think that it's OK to use them so it may be.
This comes back to -- try to -- little surreal hearing this isn't an -- President Obama make this case.
After candidate Obama and all the statements about Iraq and trying -- keep the terrorists over there and keep this stuff out of their hands.
It is kind of surrealism -- ways that you read about Iraq well I mean -- the arguments that were made at the beginning of the Iraq War.
As a candidate.
He was against those arguments those of the argues that he's right now -- them probably I don't know there was doubt as to whether or not.
Why were still doubt about earnings any doubt about the fact that Syria has the nerve gases and chemical weapons.
Think the idea that somehow.
We have to make a stand because -- al-Qaeda gets -- this we have to show that it will be deterred.
From Qaeda isn't deterred by anything.
-- Connecticut told us rarely use it the next morning.
So there's there's not an issue the idea that we're gonna deter me this isn't how -- view what words about.
Hezbollah showed in the war with Israel in 2006.
That it has the capacity and hitting Israeli ship with one of its land to share of profits and they've gone from Iran.
Which was Chinese made so it is quite possible that Hezbollah which is -- Good -- -- that would -- one of our warships.
We we are not immune system and drone war.
I think Obama imagines is like when he gets indicted you know -- lacking in Yemen that these guys are helpless.
Feel very bad guys with a lot of weapons highly sophisticated often from Iran offer from China.
So he now wants to put this in the -- -- he -- want to make a statement.
And the idea that the important fact here is CSI Miami evidence.
As a way to explain why you know the war you go to -- -- international interest you go to war if the -- a threat toward them America.
Cherishes its own security and the security of its allies.
Or you don't know whether or not -- 90% proof.
We're 97 is that the sooner.
You act with the evidence you you have -- it's -- fairly heavy.
The burden of proof.
To show otherwise.
But the real question is is -- in our national interest and why we can't.
To make -- three -- statement and go home is ridiculous and pointless but regardless of what the CSI and what was users are getting rid of the -- I would be in favor of -- racist a negative campaign.
With the objective of denying us.
The use of -- -- That doesn't mean removing -- air defenses.
You can hit with standoff weapons from the who -- from the sea or from submarines.
The six principles and basis he has he can't use his helicopters if he doesn't have them.
We knock him out then we equalize the battle and we changed the course of the -- two digits at one.
Writes is this administration making it up as they go along the only strategic planning to do was political Mars polar Lander -- -- -- post.
Five minute delay Mars it's not.
Just that producers put it and you know when they get to him sorry the other reason is that when you bounce it off Mars -- It takes a while two and a half minutes each way if that's exactly right.
Net raiders says it is not in our national interest -- Syrian.
Potential attack and if they have proof Wilma -- -- says.
That we need to see the next 48 hours it does sound like they're going to come forward with some.
Intelligence possibly tomorrow they're going to brief.
John congressional leaders at the White House late in the afternoon British parliament's taking a vote late in the afternoon.
So we could see some kind of Intel and we understand some of it's gone from Israel some of it's coming from intercepts.
There's a whole bunch of reporting as you mentioned whole bunch of leaking.
What we know one while we know.
Yeah no it's it's an amazing you know this is an administration that is been -- so it's created by suing people for policing we expect they.
I've never seen an illusion that uses leaks to further its own interests.
On the way they have -- the same time denouncing him prosecuting weeks that they don't like it's it's.
It's an interest thing is sort of double standards have not yet -- respond James Rosen by the way -- giving them.
James -- the wind has now.
About the wont -- put on the national screening at the one thing we constantly hear is that.
If we get rid of us out of we toppled the regime or was he gives the rebels the upper hand.
Going to be terrible when you giving al-Qaeda chemical weapons and all.
-- if we thought that cares about the chemical weapons we would be carpet bombing any that whole area and trying to get skipper of those chemical weapons but the idea that it wouldn't be.
-- marginal gain to take Syria out of the Iran block.
Out of the funding Hezbollah business take Syria out of the bullying Lebanon business.
Take Syria also of Russia's strategic set of assets for you know for the important they've got there and all that that's seems to me to be.
Sort of in our national interest I'm -- I think that that is the the only reason why we should do this but it that it does seem to me that that that.
That's not exactly.
We're a bad situation that as a potential -- Coming this year follow us mom writes what is the British parliament voting on -- they're voting on a resolution.
Action essentially British parliament.
Prime minister Cameron calling -- -- to take a vote and debate.
On this potential out.
And against -- So he does have that Obama doesn't.
And it isn't as if it takes a month organizers.
The resolution authorizing use -- force in Afghanistan.
Passed in the congress three days after 9/11 -- of course after 9/11 it was a mood in the country but still the president.
The idea that he would do this without his speech.
To me is completely shocked it's weird and the idea that they would say oh it's unnecessary.
Mean these are the Democrats the ones who said that.
Who bush acted high handedly and illegally and unconstitutionally.
Launching his wars is -- unbelievable speaking of which.
I had Henderson environment north lawn of the White House had.
There is a bunch of push back about what was said before and what -- and what's being said now.
What what is the latest on.
We've got a new tidbit on that a couple of Charles was just saying is that development tonight as the president sat down for this interview with PBS as you know and it was a little forward leaning on the potential for military action by saying that we may quote send a shot across the bow that's not something you -- -- CNN interview late last week.
Where he told Chris Cuomo you know about the UN and -- you know take this carefully now he seems to be moving closer and closer to military action why is that significant new development tonight -- critics are already pointing out if you go online that in 2007.
Cents Senator Obama as a candidate.
Differentiated himself from.
Then President Bush by saying look in -- in terms of Syria I would sit down directly with their leaders come up with a diplomatic solution he criticized the Bush Administration said their policy is basically if you do what we say quote.
We may not blow you -- And so if you think about that he was suggesting the Bush Administration was basically just saying.
Threatening will send a shot across the bow aside.
And let you do what we want that's what the presidency to be saying tonight and if you look at back at what.
Vice President Biden said in 2007.
New Hampshire political event.
He said that if then President Bush moved forward with an attack on Iran.
That is that he Jill Biden would personally as senate foreign relations chairman press impeachment charges against President Bush if he did not get a congressional OK -- look.
I realize not every military situation is exactly alike and there may be reasons for going forward.
In some cases and not others but the bottom line is is Charles just pointing out this is a president and a vice president who came to power saying.
They were gonna do things a lot differently and it doesn't look like they -- sure but I mean you could see.
They add that that's the case for this president as he's learned in the job I -- Guantanamo Bay.
He on the first day wanted to close it down within a year it's still open.
The drone attacks candidate Obama.
Really was not a big fan of executive action by drone.
He is more of a fan of it than President Bush war so.
You know there's some evolution here in the.
The bottom line is to pick up on your point that surveillance program which has been expanded under this president again there may be good reasons for that but look at this -- -- The stories of abuse.
Within the NSA and alleged abuse.
With the surveillance programs has been sort of knocked out of the headlines we're not talking about Edwards snowed right now because all the focus is on Syria the bottom line is I think the point you're making and I'm trying to make is that.
Your view of executive power is a lot different when you're -- candidate out there -- New Hampshire and Iowa that it is when you're sitting behind that desk in the Oval Office looking at the threat of chemical weapons from a side.
Looking at the threat from al-Qaeda in terms of attacking American cities or.
Or or our embassies and did diplomatic posts in big -- or Cairo and so -- there has been an evolution no doubt grave alleged gal writes where -- all the liberal doves now.
Is there much of a push back.
There has not been a lot of push back you know in general about demanding that the president.
Come forward except maybe in the last 24 hours or so right before we came on air.
As you know we if we had two things speaker John Boehner who's obviously Republican is a frequent critic of this president wrote a letter to the president saying look you've got to finally make your case you've got to come forward as commander in chief that's not too surprising he's he's a frequent critic but what was -- was Jerry Nadler a very senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee came forward and said look Mr.
President you -- -- move forward.
Without calming before the congress letting us having a debate.
And getting congressional -- you know authorization he said.
That that would go against the constitution that's a Democrat so a few days ago Democrats -- not speaking up now they're getting a little louder I understand there's a meeting going on behind me among the top staffers here trying to figure out when they're gonna release this intelligence the American people win the president's gonna make what we expect to be some sort of addressing the American people the next few days.
They are now hearing this criticism not just from Republicans but Democrats that may you know impact.
How all of this plays out because maybe they're going to have to bring this up for something on capital -- because.
But when you have Democrats say Jerry Nadler saying this goes against the constitution they've got at least pay attention to that they can't completely -- -- yeah last thing do you think there's an Oval Office address and making.
I think there has to be you can't send.
You know -- sure that you're not sitting boots on the ground but you can't send.
American military forces in harm's way whether their boots on the ground or at least boots in the air without addressing the American people lose in the -- -- -- the Oval Office.
This president's going to have to come forward and give a prime time address to explain.
-- -- -- -- direct head thank you original John in Texas says that's one fancy handkerchief and so.
-- -- -- -- event.
So it on John OKC a two votes he's gonna give me an address -- -- I just don't see how you can get away with not doing that it's just.
You know I mean he's given it and -- -- guy who held meetings about how to roll out obamacare last week in the situation room.
But he's not gonna give an address the American people when he actually.
Declares a war 39 speeches on a moment here.
We lost track and about forty well.
By this person does feel like keeper seems like he feels uncomfortable.
Position doesn't he's not currently no he's not comfortable and that we saw on Afghanistan.
That as you pointed out I mean he did not give a lot of speeches about Afghanistan case Afghanistan especially.
I mean when.
The first thing came out about search it was a paper statement -- wasn't speech.
So -- a reward when he gave his speech at West Point wrote a column called uncertain trumpet I mean you've never heard the president.
Enter -- -- -- is not a war for the senate to tripling the number of troops.
More Americans have -- under Obama and Afghanistan.
Than died under bush and I think the numbers two to one.
And -- -- because of something she decided.
And at the same time you can tallied in wanna do it because you talk about withdrawal to -- -- one point I want to make about.
The -- -- I think it's very remote risk but there is a definitive finite risk I was a gigantic -- If Hezbollah and Syria and Iran which have been threatening.
An attack on Israel do that.
We are gonna have a ferocious response from the Israelis.
They tell -- -- is not a who own -- Who does proportional war he will do disproportionate.
And I think it could even be an opening for Israel to attack Iran's nuclear facilities if Iran detectives -- -- I think you'd be crazy.
For any of them to attack Israel but it happened in the gulf war.
And the Israelis are not -- the -- time saved as they did in 91.
In basements where the gas mask hiding from poison gas senior.
Point if Iran somehow joins the fray here.
And it opens the gate to Iran.
Does Israel then set them and say this is our time to go after Iran.
If Iran attacks Israel.
I would not be surprised.
If Israel's retaliation.
Is specifically as a nuclear targets they would be justified it is really had nothing to do.
With the war to civil war in Syria.
Nothing to do with the purported or become an American attack and if it were attacked in -- simply.
Over -- -- that's not a rich doing I think you would -- me the one opportunity to make a stand in the world community and say.
Look we have to knock out -- -- And at that point one you're talking you're talking if that all happen that this is all hypothetical but.
That's big time is -- worse or essentially parent -- want to guns in there somewhere but.
You know this is -- let me just say obviously the Russians are not -- this -- the Chinese are not with us.
The Russians literally are against -- is not just not being with us and then you have you know that kind of internal sectarian divisions.
Between -- And others -- inside the Muslim -- don't forget Saudi Arabia and others vs the -- regime and therefore vs Iran.
Israel has been a strong supporter of taking action here.
They do not like the idea of seeing.
You know that the rebels even but certainly not -- -- regime.
Hold on the power in Syria.
But you know I'm just -- in my mind I'm not sure about the speech that you guys all call for because I think the president is reflecting the American people here.
The American people.
We all feel a moral imperative but most Americans don't want.
Any boots on the ground.
Don't want the risk of what Charleston and you have just described this conflagration that would.
Bring us all in -- to a real war didn't know what she's pushing the button right on making the decision he once you've we've got to make the decision but he's he's he does what he's describing which is to release the intelligence and say here's the case and I'm taking limited action.
And I don't consider this war.
I'm not asking the congress to vote and I'm not coming to you that the American people and I'm just taking this limited action I mean that's -- -- -- really really want but this is it big and get what they have.
What do you feel like the receiving end of a tomahawk.
I don't care what the guys shooting it's everybody considers a war he feels like war.
Well besides business he's no friend of ours the question is if you retaliate if he uses -- -- in -- -- Lebanon against the Israelis.
Then -- got a huge fight all the political point about the speech right.
President Obama already has a huge problem about an imperial presidency.
He has been implementing without regard to the law -- lots of Obama -- he's not.
He's despite all talk about a transparency hasn't been transparent he doesn't work doesn't work with congress and their day to me and I say there is this sense and which.
He didn't want to do everything unilaterally with the EPA and always comes of -- and then if he goes and actually starts killing people.
Without trying to explain -- the American people I think that as a political disaster for this guy you're absolutely right he's reflecting the mood of the American people.
-- the American people -- present -- United States only one guy has and that's Barack Obama and he's the guy who gets pushed the button he's a guy makes the call.
And part of the job of making that call is explaining to the American people why you made it.
Michael -- there are no good guys involved in the fight and Syria we should stay out until the shooting stops and then deal with the winner.
Is certain that the winner will be a bad guy yes -- -- -- record Brecher director.
direct -- reflects the American people here.
-- are having -- president on the phone call and -- he is as uncertain as Americans generally.
He shouldn't go to war.
You cannot have a commander in chief bordering other people to go into battle.
When his heart is -- -- -- -- just it's demoralizing it's contradictory I'd say it's almost immoral.
Unless you believe I mean you can look at other decisions -- the Bush Administration made.
But nobody can deny the president really thought this was important and he -- -- do everything he could.
In order to end up winning the war -- be succeeding in some way.
As he did in the surge Obama orders -- -- he walks away from that they don't give a speech for three years and then he says -- you know essentially what he's saying is we have to leave.
Because we have no support in the population of.
Of course not.
Nature what is the risk to Israel.
Is it that Hezbollah is it that big chemical rockets being fired him -- there aren't passing out mass.
Gas masks you -- -- and -- both of those items are on our our threats to Israel and the other one would be that Iran.
Is believes that they can now be emboldened based on serious success in using chemical weapons -- to either use chemical and nerve gases or.
-- -- nukes they think well you know nobody no punishment for assigned.
Any country that Rodgers -- chemical weapon.
At the one country in the world that is the revenue and -- success of the legacy.
A huge European Jews who -- killed my guess.
Because of the Israelis will respond the way that the world has never seen.
So I think if they weren't a weapon of mass destruction it would be patently suicidal on the part of whoever did a good thing -- Iran doesn't have a new kid.
You know I was what they fired him a quick hits it -- -- hiring at at the Muslim minorities.
If it's not -- -- tournament in -- and usually that's why that's so let's put Israel is -- -- what if they start -- other Muslims and what are we supposed to do.
What are we supposed yeah I think he's got to react to it to you can't just be reacting -- room.
We don't have time to -- the Israelis would react in a way that would not be proportionate.
What should we do we don't.
That's an impossible question who is around attacking why is -- Iraq in the Iran Iraq War with the Iraqis who were the first to use chemical weapons.
Depend on the context and the intent and the other guys.
-- nine mile Obama administration always does things on Friday afternoon before politics.
Right so this is shaping -- to -- -- document dump that next cruise missile or no document in which he says O in incidentally I start of the war about three hours ago.
Buried in some Labor Department regulate individual mandate and -- -- -- -- was here.
It is true that final word on this -- we are we've firing missiles before we -- I think he's he's.
So far out on a -- Obama.
He's gonna do -- I don't know about the weekend I think it'll depend depend on whether he's got enough allies lined up.
But I don't see how he can walk in this went back and I'm not supporting his -- -- his objectives are too limited speaking it would show -- for.
All of the and that's again he's an easy punditry to go back to bush years but for all of the angst about the Coalition of the Willing.
And how there weren't enough -- partners.
And there will be fewer.
Coalition of the willingness.
In this one Germany's not on board.
And -- illegal war if they don't get the UN Security Council -- -- -- international law it is.
Don't pull out because the rest of Islam never lets up but I don't give a rescue -- about the UN Security Council were reluctant approval from my point and I think we all know about -- -- is yeah.
But they're the Iraq quite an obvious she recovers just like try to guess -- that.
-- I think you're wrong.
They've begun but according to the left Saturday -- of course -- the Iraq War -- before start working before they.
The Iraq War was he legal war of UN Security Council you know approval.
Found this would be any illegal war or international law I don't care about international law in this regard but it's something that -- at least point out the hypocrisy factor.
Final word -- -- for the weekend.
I don't know why I mean I think that.
What we're very much earlier is that what I heard today was the intelligence information all that comes out to tomorrow's Thursday.
Possibly into Friday and then.
You get this consensus that some action had to be taken again on a moral imperative and with the -- point if what -- the strategic goals what are you taking out not just the general bombardment.
Days not weeks before we can do over the weekend I don't.
Would you be surprised if it was a bigger strike and were talking about would you be surprised that you actually did try to topple the regime.
I'm ideas right -- try to -- the regime I wouldn't be surprised if it was a more substantial as you know go after serious military installations feeling depots and that kind of thing.
And this is a difference between cosmetic limited in serious.
And I think he wants to go just far enough to not be seen as purely cosmetic.
-- it was a big Republican.
We'll have the final comment of the night.
I'd rather have another Obama term then see -- of torque yeah.
-- and these things for America and I.
I don't know that we need being this.
That's one reason why I'm seeing is the most important senator.
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