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And welcome to FOX News Sunday panel plus with -- Jack -- Joseph Lieberman.
Jennifer Rubin and Charles -- I did something very unfair to senator Lieberman I sat in thirty seconds how what is our policy in the middle -- You can talk as much as -- -- about how much trouble do you think.
We are with the Obama policy in the various actions and and and and pull backs right now in the middle.
Well I think we're in trouble and look the the Middle East has been strategically important to the United States and -- so.
Four and not -- economic reasons but because of our.
Ties to Israel and the moderate Arab countries that the Middle East is obviously in turmoil now -- in itself.
One of the great guarantors.
Of stability and hopefully progress has been the credibility of the United States and our relationship.
-- our allies there and hopefully our relationship with our national values and when.
The president seems to be point right now before all this happened looking at us pulling out of Iraq pulling out of Afghanistan.
Various statements and come out of the administration.
Our allies in the Middle East are nervous.
And again it's it's to the Arabs and Israel.
Let -- ask about Israel you're obviously very close there -- A lot of inside sources.
What are they is saying about this president and particularly as it.
Affects Iran because there there was this rat line about chemical weapons and Syria.
But of course Netanyahu has the Red Line about Iran developing a nuclear capability not a -- but the capability yeah.
How much can they trust that this president is gonna have their back if that were to happen well.
First of I'd say that the relations between Israel and the -- us and Netanyahu and Obama are are better than it it may seem.
In the media and the president if you were here would say he's.
In a stronger stronger than any previous -- -- military -- intelligence cooperation with Israel but on the specific question -- Iran which is the big question.
For Israel and incidentally for our -- moderate Arab allies.
They're concerned about whether.
President Obama will actually take action to do -- his promise to do.
Which is to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons capability and that encourages.
Israel to think more actively about taking action itself which is not the best way for it happened because Israel.
Is not as capable militarily as we are and the political ramifications in the middle east of an Israeli strike on Iran much more complicated than the -- doing.
And I think it's taken as a given unfortunately in Israel these days that the United States is not gonna that they sort of checked out.
You see it in the Israeli press -- it can only talk to Israelis -- across their political spectrum.
On and I think one of them.
Results of this ironically for a president who came into office wanting to act multilaterally wanting to have international bodies -- a lot of this work.
Is that he is encouraging unilateralist and because it's every man for himself at this point and that's really open to be a problem -- -- -- how.
You know we all watched and I don't know what.
Each of us expected but I think we all thought that he was gonna take us even a step closer to war when he made his statement at 145 yesterday afternoon.
How shocked were you by the president's decision and after reading all the commentary maybe you've done some reporting.
Why do you think he didn't.
-- I was shocked but in hindsight actually makes a lot of sense and the reason for that is what you're hearing coming out of the White House namely.
That they felt.
-- the few Republicans in congress and indeed some democratic critics were getting a free shot at the president that they were in this position where.
They could criticize him.
If you went ahead but wouldn't have to have any accountability and now they feel like okay.
You guys -- David Axelrod tweeted this that the Republicans in congress and I like the dog that caught the car right you guys are gonna have some -- They think that's important both for substantive reasons and for political reasons but as listen before I think the problem with that is.
The president does not have the upper hand on congress he needs their approval.
Much more than they need to give it.
And so I think he is at risk of winding up like David can.
But let me ask it in a different -- though and it.
How important and and that's what we have heard as well as that he basically wanted to say that members of congress have been taken shots at him.
Okay I'm gonna put this on your plight now you've got to take step up and take responsibility.
Or justify a vote against.
Is that worth.
The downside of all things we've talked about here of of of taking the country to war and then pulling back.
A bit of having Syria talking today about American retreat of the message it sends to Iran of the message it -- to Israel.
Is that kind of political.
-- I don't know that in -- much else is it worth it.
Well -- interest and I mean in a in a big picture constitutional sense a guy like Rand Paul no friend the president would say yes of course it's worth because this is where we've got to do it.
But in terms of that the way people view US power in the region.
We take it from this kind of procedure and the Syrians -- press today.
Has said this is the first step of American retreat and so forth and so on.
I don't care about our constitution they don't care about doing things the way -- in the civics book they just wanna know is that isn't gonna hit us or not.
And when he hesitates.
Even if it's for a good reason -- React accordingly.
Well -- I think they administration's made serious look miscalculations and mentally since they came into office.
Driven by a world that they -- and in Iraq and another one I want to bring a conclusion I think they made the judgment.
We don't do anything that would involve us in another conflict in the Middle East and as a result of that.
We're not acting -- wrong and geo politically and trying to influence the revolutionary change of sweeping through the region.
It's a mistake that this engaged few politically -- -- talk about militarily.
Talking about being -- all in trying to influence not control lips and that has.
That has concluded with the players in the region that the United States.
Is we have much now on that as president and they're much more concerned about their security as it pertains to the United States umbrella for that secure than they have -- -- And and it's just that this -- that sounds beautiful -- pension earlier.
This doesn't just affect the Middle East affects us globally so if if you're in and -- -- talk weather in the context of so called pivot.
Of this administration from the Middle East through the Asia Pacific if you're in the Asia Pacific let's sit around -- south Tennessee -- Vietnam War.
The Philippines -- Myanmar one of those -- -- worried about China.
You're watching this and so far so long distance from where -- or what if the US.
To go back to scriptures seems to be sounding an uncertain trumpet.
You're really worried about whether when the crisis hits your neighborhood.
America's -- be with you and that's bad for stability -- a whole world that's also bad for our economy incidentally.
Because we rely on the stability in places like did you preserver for a lot of that the jobs that are created here in America.
Thank you all panel please check in with us throughout the -- Tell us what you think about where we stand now in -- the wake of the president's surprise decision but from my Monday edition of Wallace unplug it and find it right here.
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