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-- delighted to be joined now by congressman George holding Republican of North Carolina and a member of the house foreign affairs committee who was actually obviously.
Part of that briefing yesterday.
Congressman have you decided -- to support military strikes or not.
I'm extremely skeptical I was skeptical.
Before I came up on Sunday.
For the classified briefing which was some three hours long.
Left that briefing more skeptical and of course yesterday we had in foreign affairs committee.
A four hour hearing with secretaries Kerry -- when general Dempsey.
And -- left.
Left that hearing.
I have not been convinced that we need to commit.
Our military assets men and women.
To a war consider what specifically.
Is leaving you skeptical.
Well our policy in the Middle East has been modeled.
Throughout this and our -- -- The Clinton administration has some that a strike in Syria will somehow on model.
What our foreign policy has been out of there I don't -- that's the case.
When the president says that he wants to send a shot across the bow.
And when secretariat here yesterday said that you know we're not fighting to win in this conflict.
That's a mixed message in and of itself.
All right I just wanna play.
Does -- -- from a secular state carry.
From the yesterday's hearing and then get -- -- on it it is the second of state.
The evidence proves that the Assad regime prepared this attack.
And that they attacked exclusively.
Opposition controlled or contested.
-- some point in the appropriate setting.
You'll learn additional evidence which came to us even today.
Which further documents.
The acknowledgment of various friends of the Assad regime that they know.
That this happened.
Congressman are you skeptical -- -- the evidence so are all of the it Syrian regime being behind this.
Alleged chemical weapons attack do you believe.
The secular state and the president when they say we are convinced that this -- the woke -- president Assad's security forces.
I think they have sufficient evidence to say that it was aside the launch the chemical weapons attack -- also draw your attention to the fact that.
Secretary Kerry pointed out that this Assad that -- chemical weapons eleven times before so you we don't have any moral obligation that -- act.
The athletic committing ourselves to a military act to a military strike.
Is not someone that we should do I don't believe -- in our national interest at this point to -- some.
So it but it you do you believe -- -- Allen national interest to allow a dictator.
To murder upwards of a 100000 of his people to use weapons which the world has outlawed very clearly.
Well he didn't use.
Chemical weapons to murder -- 100000 and it certainly murder anyone with chemical weapons this terrible.
But you know this is a conflict has been going on for two years and we have not taken decisive action.
Maybe when we had some opportunities take decisive action.
This point I don't see what.
Committing you know bombing Syria will further our natural -- -- national interest at this juncture.
So -- Would you do just leave well alone do nothing further in Syria and let the Syrian people 5% for themselves -- Another twelve months two years ten years -- -- long it takes.
I find it very difficult to conceive.
A reason to get involved in a civil war in Syria.
They continue on with trying to find a diplomatic solution which is what they've been.
I'm saying that they wanted to do that metrics has been saying they wanted to do.
Yeah I'm not convinced that a military strike.
Is the correct course -- act -- so what's your feeling of the way the votes are going to go in the house when it comes to the full house vote congressman.
Well I -- been.
You know talking to my colleagues and also -- for reading -- what different colleagues who had the side.
And it looks like -- -- stacking up you know against an intervention against bombings here and I'm a what what do you.
Think the message to the world will be.
If the United States and the international community does not.
Act -- what would it say -- American leadership if indeed anything.
Well I believe.
That American leadership as far as this administration.
-- has been dithering forever for years now.
You know not acting says the same thing the administration has been -- which is.
We have no clarity of our vision for what we won't in the Middle East.
And we have no clarity of vision that we can communicate to our partners as to what we want to achieve -- while there's not a coalition building around this.
What one when would you have back to eight when 101000 were dead when twenty hasn't -- -- what are you saying that if we acted that it would be fine but now that there's a 100000 dead.
It's not worth it.
Our wanted to sing -- the.
Options that we had some two years ago you know the beginning of this conflict bomb.
I don't know what those options were but it certainly that they would be better then.
He has some sort of this limited strike.
Which the president says -- We just want to send a shot across the -- secretary Kerry yesterday at a very into the hearing you know if you have the stand not to be there forever for -- she -- heard him say that.
It what we're doing here is we're not fighting to win.
-- my view and if you were going to bomb a country if you're gonna commit an act of war you're gonna engage on that serious level.
You need to be in it with some clarity of purpose and determination.
-- say that we're not fighting to win -- -- start across the -- Seems very cavalier attitude.
Towards committing -- our nation's blood and treasure to a military act.
So and sometime next week it appears that every member all of the house will be on the -- code is to say as saying whether we should or should not act militarily.
-- if you want if you -- one of those who votes no.
And then -- -- twelve months down the line now president -- status loaded another 100000.
Add WikiLeaks still be comfortable without votes are.
You know Tom will tell the now now -- -- have clairvoyant visions.
Time -- zone and history will cast -- life.
On the decision made here and I think also the behavior and actions of this administration over the last four years that got us to this point.
All right congressman George holding Republican of North Carolina -- told she said thank you very much indeed thank you Jonathan good afternoon.
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