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I -- -- makes -- this year.
He is the CEO of concern veterans for America -- A couple of tours in Iraq -- -- ascent.
And Afghanistan and so in the only fight the -- you help those who did fight the wars in this generation.
The president spoken to -- spoke today -- you were encouraged by the clearest message yet on why.
We need to show some backbone against Syria.
I think he made his most Cogent case yet.
As to why America's credibility is on the line in whether we act or not and he he was very critical of the UN is interesting for I got an internationalist a global -- like him to basically.
Say it's there's a lot of hocus pocus and these resolutions and all the stuff that the UN passes as a whole lot of nonsense alternately if someone uses chemical weapons.
That's -- used the word international -- a thousand times -- -- -- -- conversation.
But if you don't if you're not willing at some point to bring military might to -- behind it it means absolutely nothing and because the international community in quotes.
Won't do that the UN won't do that America must at certain times and it was interesting to hear.
President Obama make a forceful American intervention case whether he's right or wrong the whole other conversation.
Because -- about it.
A red line for us is.
We start seeing.
A whole bunch chemical weapons moving around were being -- That would change my calculus.
I didn't -- -- repertoire.
The world's Federer.
The -- sort of red line when.
Governments representing 98%.
Of the world's population said.
The use of chemical weapons are -- And by the way abhorrent or -- So by the way.
Is true everything he says is true.
But is that one of the reasons we're in Iraq have -- -- UN resolutions -- -- -- Saddam Hussein the flat out ignored.
We put -- -- the no fly zone we had to enforce it we were paying a dollar we were getting shot at that week on me but you guys.
The air force so when they -- had to put teeth behind -- the weapons inspectors in.
And he refused to let them do anything and he's got a history of weapons of mass destruction we actually have the body count in the in the witnesses.
In the Iran Iraq War the -- so.
If we go -- to Syria.
And there's no weapons of mass destruction there's does that mean those hundred and those 11100 people fourteen under people didn't die and we went in -- for no reason.
You understand -- that we were forced to put teeth behind the UN to begin with -- -- legal President Bush Dick Cheney -- Colin Powell in company did.
We talked to the countries they said listen we need use generous on this this is what we're gonna do maybe he -- have staying in this.
Don't want conversation it's a myriad of countries it's a relationship that happens -- -- ass backwards yeah.
Absolutely and he was -- today but after being completely incoherent for weeks how you can read -- -- about what we're going to do if your country -- -- supposedly be allied with us.
Why you wanna be alive with a country that sets a red line that was sort of -- a whimsical statement then says it wasn't our red lines the world's red line.
We want to intervene but not it's -- -- be a decisive but very limited action.
Whenever you put boots on the ground so -- and we're gonna wait weeks to allow the -- to pre position your position these stocks and do whatever they would need to -- collaborate with Iran and Russian has -- all the other proxy organizations so don't -- -- tell what we're gonna -- we're gonna -- incoherent in the process -- -- -- bush and Cheney and -- understood right -- wrong -- their actions his country's -- That if you crossed us worked or didn't follow.
International norms there would actual real consequences that's why -- -- gave up their weapons in 2003 they thought they were next.
No one in including a side believes there won't be real follow one consequences if a few cruise missiles are -- and that's where I fully knowledge might take on this is incoherent because I think we need to do something.
But what can we do that is is it is sends a signal and preserves American credibility right it.
At the -- you know here's the -- -- -- reason why don't do over the picked up intercept that Iran is talking to their agents over in Baghdad.
About going after our embassy the -- Hezbollah they assume would be going after embassy over in -- -- They also look in northern half hundred no that's it go sign anywhere -- 9/11 coming up that we do we can be vulnerable there and we have ships in the area to evacuate our.
You have -- he's been Russian ships steaming into the area warships and spy ships because -- that give them two and a -- we got to get ready you have.
So there are also worried about those best -- the -- and bass boats going against the five carries -- evident area we have to have a defense with other -- -- votes against that.
And it's all of that happening which is all indeed in the news just today is reflection of the fact that of course if we act there's gonna be reprisal there's going to be implications.
Are we prepared for follow on action necessary in order preserve stability credibility or read -- a few missiles.
Talk about the chemical red -- just the chemical red line while prudent.
And in Iran and others play a team for keeps to sort of show hey we can stare down the Americans on the international stage and -- where were you stationed in Iraq I was in Baghdad and then samarra was -- get in tomorrow and it -- gold -- No one has to -- you.
That Syria played a -- -- and allowing means already this is terrorists to come in and out.
Did aiding -- get a quick -- -- and nuanced maybe a little bit of training the first uniform and then go in their compare maps and experiences.
And they go back so you're feeling is personal.
You know the role they play the insurgency that he could kill -- wounded some -- your guys.
Absolutely action which is what makes the decision of the discussion about what to do in Syria so complex the last thing I wanna do is tip the balance in the favor of rebels who -- more or less the same.
Insurgents the same Islamist -- Qaeda oriented folks.
Who we were fighting in Iraq and our fighting -- dismantle -- side.
As I as I've said many we have we missed our window eighteen months ago we wanted to get behind Free Syrian Army a more moderate element that -- it yet besieged by al-Qaeda -- -- long lost another another aspect that we forget about it look at Libya today.
Libya and our lead from behind policy.
If you break and they decide not to it's chaos but we broke it and say we are getting -- -- -- fix it we never said we want to -- and we differences absolutely you know there are just -- that we try to fix and frankly in Iraq after a massive investment and of hundreds of thousands of troops -- lives lost and billions spent.
Thought we we were capable of building an army that -- more or less defend.
But if that's what it takes decades and billions and we're not gonna do that serious so when you break -- be tipped the balance -- decree absolute chaos with regional implications.
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