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Hello welcome -- -- spirited debate I'm Lauren Green chief religion correspondent for Fox News Channel.
A pastor Max the -- was in New York City soon after the plane struck the twin -- on eleven.
His book -- soon turned into impromptu prayer meetings at retail outlets as we reached shoppers just wanted hope and healing.
-- Max has returned to the Big Apple on this anniversary week of 9/11 with another book aimed at helping people get through today's public issues.
And the book is called you'll get through this hope and help.
War or turbulent times -- -- when you know you're welcome thank you such a treat to see it.
You know at recount from what it was like when you got here after 9/11 because it was -- it.
Decision you almost didn't.
Decide to come.
We assumed it would be appropriate to cancel the book tour was immediately after just a few days after 9/11.
But the response from.
The people here in New York City was please don't cancel we need some encouragement and so we went to the Barnes and Noble's the borders bookstores -- the time.
And to -- lines were long and the people were concerned from the expressions on their face which is Ernest.
And when it was announced we're going to have -- just deliver brief message.
It is almost like a church service -- I mean did that I remember in particular a Barnes & Noble right here not far from your studio.
Just filled up.
And end it was just unlike anything we've rivers who has had a -- church of Barnes & Noble who would have thought you know midweek middle of the day.
People just were.
Their faces were pale in their eyes were why they were just afraid.
How does it -- -- city today -- back here you know twelve years later how different is -- today.
Well normalcy has returned.
What about ironies I think -- tragedies like there is that is jurors his spirituality within -- within that spirituality subsides.
And we forget how fragile we are.
You know but just a few conversations about Syria Iraq and Iran you can see the concern coming back in people's faces so.
Yeah this city is she really seems like normalcy has returned but.
Beneath the surface not very far.
It's always concerned this book is aimed at noon today because I think he'll get through this about today's turbulent times -- -- we weren't for I'm running for people who find themselves passing through and impossible.
And impassable river.
A place where they just don't know if they're gonna get through it or not the purpose of this book is to defy despair.
I wanted to fight this there I wanna help people who had just been handed the toughest news of their lives.
One hand them -- tool in state now and know it's tough.
Don't give up with God's help.
You're gonna get through this.
You know the story of Joseph.
The husband of marriage the father and stepfather -- -- who Jesus.
Why do you bring Joseph into the story well this -- the father Joseph.
Is a target that the father of Jesus is a key character in the new testament.
Because he is the one who role models what it's like to be handed an assignment that no one ever expected him.
No one ever imagined.
And yet he stepped in with his quiet obedience and faith.
And really fulfilled the task the other Joseph the son of Jacob.
Is even a more prominent person in the book because he is the one who.
One chapter after another was given one assignment after another.
And succeeded he not only survive but he thrive you know he became the prime minister of Egypt.
And who is successfully protected all of his family in the -- fan he's the one who said what was intended is evil god used for good.
And I think that's a great summary -- had to face a tough time.
Evil comes good god can use it for.
Would look at some because I'm -- there -- a lot of people even listening to this saying that.
Nothing can and I think to get me through what I'm going through is anything just honest accountable.
Nothing yes nothing is and that's very important because despair happens when we think my problems have no end in my problems have no solution.
That's when despair -- it's in times of despair we make decisions that make things even worse that you didn't.
Further complicate or circumstances.
So somebody has to step in a voice has to step in and say OK I know it's tough.
But let's not give up.
And talk ourselves off the -- attribute some might -- caucus back from the -- and keep us from making some difficult decisions in the book outlined.
Some very practical things that Joseph in the old testament did.
To help people get through tough times sometimes we just need some money to walk us through.
And help us take the -- Step out of the pit what do you say the people who -- -- it happens and if somebody has.
Just been delivered as you say they've been delivered.
Or even been you know the many mortars.
Her -- I mean.
What do you say to them what's depressing is it first thing I say it's it's tough.
It's time we commiserate with others saying it is and it is the last thing that you need to -- for one thing and the last thing that his real first second.
Is to say -- it's all right you don't want to -- to -- for the fact of the matter is it's tough even a teenager who.
You know loses their date to the problem you know looking back we say -- not that big of a deal but when your teenager in your world is built around it's tough.
-- knowledge that tough things to happen.
-- the -- -- don't think they don't but the analysts also say that nothing is fatal nothing -- thing.
With god as your helper.
You can get through these things in there some practical things you can do you could pray out your pain.
You can lean on God's people.
You can lay claim to the sovereignty of god -- you can trust the -- -- gone there's some real practical things you can do you can find someone who's been through this before.
Demand for -- hope you.
You've you've got to just take some practical steps.
And -- -- what's the Salvation Army for an event this week as well you're going to.
An event commemorating you know the nine elevenths now as well as helping other victims of her -- -- -- -- But you've -- -- with a special edition of your book for the Salvation Army at that.
Using victim's story Salvation Army in Q well no it's just one of the greatest organizations in our country is is what.
Course originated in great Britain and 1860.
Has served hundreds of thousands of people and thousands of catastrophes.
Over the years.
And -- we've partnered with him to create a special version of this book that will be given to people in future tragedies.
Right along with.
Supplies of clothing.
Food and also this book that this will say you'll get through this in some words of encouragement to help them.
People who just lost their house for example people who just weather while -- for example.
This would be a part of the package to help him get through their -- Is natural disaster suffering different from.
-- personal tragedy like my father died or.
My -- cancer or anything that's more personal.
Are they different in how you keel how you deal with it.
Great question that there are two kinds of tragedies the tragedies that we create in the tragedies that we can air it.
Are we just to -- some tragedies we create we drink too much we don't pay attention -- -- drive in -- smoke and we shouldn't we overeat.
We create problems in our lives.
Some we just.
You know while fire or tornado or hurricane.
Did the first one it really requires a sense of forgiving ourselves from acknowledging that I screwed up.
In seeking mercy and grace which god is quick to -- The other kind interestingly enough involves forgiving god.
You -- god you didn't meet my expectations here that you've been in control there wouldn't have been hurt him right after you've been in control my father would have lived longer.
If you had been controlled -- so there's it.
Both of those require involving gone in the process.
Wonder requires forgiving ourselves on the other involves for different.
Its path Rick we're powerful of the book is -- you'll get through this hope and help for your turbulent times pastor -- -- Could add this to -- over eighty million books he gets -- thank you so much of being a million man it's great great privilege.
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